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Concerning post #4 -- UTTER BLASPHEMY!!!

 

You do not "toke" (or, smoke) God the HOLY Spirit, like weed.  Being high on whatever or drunk on alcohol leads to the excesses of fleshly works.  Being filled with the HOLY Spirit of God leads to the fruit of the Spirit and to a transformation of our character "unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ."  The above is not just spiritual foolishness.  It is not just false doctrine.  I say it again -- It is UTTER BLASPHEMY against God the HOLY Spirit!!!

Now, on this we definitely agree!

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The truly sad thing is, once someone has received a false gospel and conversion, and received a false Jesus, they aremoften taught about the terrible fundamentalists who think the Bible is something to be followed literally, and once they embrace them, its almost impossible to reach them-they have their proof texts and they will fight your 'phariseeism' tooth and nail. Once you remove their reliance upon scripture, you now have no set boundaries upon which to stand.

 

I have been dealing with a young lady who used to attend my church-it was years back as a teen. She ended up in foster care with a more modern Christian family out of our influence and has been immersed in pentecostalism. She speaks in tongues, has apparently no prOBlem with the 'holy laughter' and spirit drunkeness, slaying in the spirit, and so forth. She has been taught that we can't 'box in' God, that he is so awesome he can do as He pleases and we have no right to judge it. And of course, with this mindset, she rejects anything I tell her about scriptuiral testing and trying and judging. Its very sad. When I tpoke against the laughter thing, she accused me of promoting a sad, depressing Christianity, where we should walk arounf bummed out all the time. "No wonder', she said, "that people don't want to be Christians when we expect them to be sad all the time!". No discernment at all concerning what I was talking about. Yet to her, she has excellent discernment. Such she has been taught. I am praying for her to 'get it', we shall see.  her name is Destinee, if anyone wants to pray for her, as well.

How to reveal the spirit behind the slaying in that young lady. 

Offer to attend a service she goes to.  Stay behind her.  Or, if you see someone else who looks like they might be "slain", step behind that person.  As the person starts to fall backward, just move out of the way.  Don't catch him/her.  Let that person fall. 

If it truly is the Spirit of God, who are we to hinder it?  If it wants to knock someone on his/her back, let Him. 

If  it's not the Spirit, the true spirit behind the "slaying" will manifest itself in short order.

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This is why our pastor continually tells us that when we are talking with someone and they say they believe in Jesus we need to ask them for details. There are many who believe in a false Jesus rather than the biblical Jesus. Many of these folks don't even realize that. Are they believing in some false Jesus that is all love and welcomes everyone into heaven no matter what...one who is a hippy type flower child that just wants everyone to be happy...one who was a good man who became a god...who was simply a prophet...who wants to destroy us all so we better pray to his mommy so she can calm him down...

Peter addressed this prOBlem in Acts.

 

Acts 4:10

There aint no doubt who he's talking about.

That's the Jesus I serve.

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Going back to the OP, I remember when I first realized that the professionalism was becoming a thing of the past.

 

I worked security at a large casino in Reno-no other jOBs to be had.  One of the pit bosses, as they are called, who are like managers of each of the gaming areas, called me over, as he had something to show me. Now, these guys were supposed to be the pros-nice suits and ties, well-kept, as it were. So, he looks around and then unbuttons a few buttons on his shirt and shows me his new nipple piercing. Now, I don't knwo why he thought I would be interested in such a thing, but there it was-and we were right in the middle of the pit area, surrounded by players and such. And I thought, "How unprofessional". If he wants to do it, great, go get 'em, but keep it to yourself! 

 

Now, everything is out there on your sleeve, as it were, for everyone to see. And if you are offended or thing its inappropriate, its YOUR fault.  

 

Once, at work on the base where I am at now, I went to speak with the base chaplain by invitation. WHile I was waiting for him, the EEO, (Equal Employment Opportunity) lady offerred to let me sit to wait in her office. 

   Now, this lady KNOWS I am there to see the chaplain, and knows as well that I am a pastor. But she asks me, concerning some little statues on her table, "What do you think of my witches? (for so they depicted). And I looked at them and said, "Hm..very wicked.". Well, this wasn't the answer she was looking for apparently and informed me very seriously that I could get into a lot of trouble for being intolerant. and I informed her that my opinion was sought, not offered, and if she wasn't preapred for people to have a different view from hers, not to ask for it. I was polite, not a jerk, but there it was. Honestly, I expected to get a write-up for it, but apparently it made her think, and nothing was ever said about it. But it just goes to show, everyone wants their views to be the only views and heaven help you if you differ from theirs!

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IN' TOL- ERANT

 

Hebrew word defined as...

 

Accept everything but Christianity

 

That one word makes the White, American, Christian, Male the most discriminated against beings in the universe.

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Some people were talking about those tattoos many women get on their lower backs, often some sort of what they call tribal design. These typically are very low on the back. As they were all offering their opinions on such I mentioned that I don't care for them. Apparently I was the only one who didn't. Suddenly I was an ignorant, intolerant, old white man who shouldn't have any say anyway.

 

Rather ironic since all there were white, at least two were my age or a bit older, a couple others just a few years younger, the rest in their 20s or 30s. According to them, any negative view of such tattoos automatically meant I was racist (must be since the tattoo design is of non-white tribal design), I'm intolerant (I never said they weren't free to get the things, only that I don't care for them), and naturally since I disagree with them that means I'm the ignorant one, and well accusing anyone of being an "old white man" when they aren't PC is just their natural knee jerk reaction.

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Some people were talking about those tattoos many women get on their lower backs, often some sort of what they call tribal design. These typically are very low on the back. As they were all offering their opinions on such I mentioned that I don't care for them. Apparently I was the only one who didn't. Suddenly I was an ignorant, intolerant, old white man who shouldn't have any say anyway.

 

Rather ironic since all there were white, at least two were my age or a bit older, a couple others just a few years younger, the rest in their 20s or 30s. According to them, any negative view of such tattoos automatically meant I was racist (must be since the tattoo design is of non-white tribal design), I'm intolerant (I never said they weren't free to get the things, only that I don't care for them), and naturally since I disagree with them that means I'm the ignorant one, and well accusing anyone of being an "old white man" when they aren't PC is just their natural knee jerk reaction.

Just let them know that they are free to get their tramp stamps if they like, as it will better identify them to others for what they are. That will make you popular.

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I've mentioned this among family before and since some have such tattoos they didn't take it kindly. I've pointed out such at work and elsewhere and people really don't like hearing that.

 

It's interesting that they get these tattoos in a place they must be wearing very low cut jeans and a short top for them to be seen, or at least partially seen; and if someone notices them and compliments them they are all smiles and kind but if someone notices and says anything not accepting they are attacked for looking and called all sort of names.

 

Reminds me of when I was in an office and a well endowed woman was wearing a very immodest top and one of her coworkers told her she liked her top and she was all gushing over the compliment. Later a lady attempted to quietly point out to her that her top was revealing way to much and thought she might want to do up some buttons or the zipper or whatever it was. The woman in the immodest top was instantly furious and lashed out at the woman for looking where she shouldn't have been looking, for commenting upon her clothes, for sticking her nose in other peoples business, etc. Had I been a woman I would have come to the modest woman's support, but being a man, the subject under discussion, the location and my wife not being there, I didn't think it would be appropriate.

 

The point being, these people want others looking at their bodies and they purposefully dress in ways that show off parts of their bodies (whether there is a tattoo there or not). They love the compliments, the lustful stares and such but if someone dares not think their immodesty is great or their tattoos are beautiful, they are quick to lash out at them.

 

Sad to say, but I've witnessed similar among Christians where one Christian woman will be wearing an immodest dress but demand she be considered modestly dressed simply because she's wearing a dress. These same women lash out hatefully when a Christian lady tries to point out the immodesty. For some reason, it's becoming ever more acceptable for women to wear immodest dresses in church. For a long while now it's been acceptable for Christian women to wear immodest dresses for weddings in the church. Sometimes even exposing tattoos in places we shouldn't be able to see.

 

(I still can't understand why a Christian dad or groom would be agreeable to their daughter or bride wearing an immodest dress to get married in)

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I was saved in nursing school. My teacher was a born again Christian, southern Baptist. And I know she prayed for all her students. By the end of school I was only a Christian for a few months, about 1/2 dropped out so my starting class I think 12 of us actually finished. Anyway, since my only working history has been in nursing I can say that some are just an embarrassment to the rest. Wherever I worked, I was always appalled at the unprofessionalism of other nurses. You were ok if you were one of "them", the ones who partied together after work. Hungover next day they would laugh and cut up about it. Most in my later years of nursing, had tattoos. My teacher instilled in us, and was practiced in nursing school, tattoos were covered up, no jewelry other than wedding ring, no nail polish, no perfume, ironed uniforms. It stuck with me and I always tried to appear professional. The one's that smoked were always the partiers, in school and at work. Now employers can't push those standards on their nurses. Black nurses almost always had super long, bright polish nails with multiple rings. Who wants a nurse that reeks of smoke, is hungover,and is tattooed? I know I don't.

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Me too. We had one lady in our class that none of us would ever want her as a nurse! How she graduated was a mystery to me and my classmates. She was nice, but would get so nervous just talking to you that she fluttered her eyes shut when talking. She got a jOB after school where her mom worked as a nurse also, otherwise I don't think she would have got a jOB

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My daughter is a nurse and virtually all the nurses she works with are foul mouthed, heavy drinkers, partiers, most smoke and they all have children out marriage. A few are somewhat polite on the jOB but most are just crass and my daughter is having a tough time battling to keep their language, mannerisms and attitudes from rubbing off on her. She has went so far as to switch shifts so as to get away from the worst ones.

 

My niece is a CNA at the hospital and when my wife was there for knee surgery and I would visit her before she came home I would walk through the wing my niece worked. While talking with her I could overhear a couple others there continually talking about sex and getting drunk and what patients they thought were hot or gross. They acted like poorly raised schoolgirls with no manners or morals. My niece said that's all they do and herself and others have to pick up the slack. My niece said most of the nurses and CNAs she works with are just like the ones by daughter works around. On their off days they hire babysitters to watch their children and they go out and party, get drunk, sleep with some guy, go home and sleep it off and the go out and do it again until it's time to go back to work. She said several of them come to work OBviously still hung over or high.

 

I can see why some people really hate going to hospitals and some are even scared to be there.

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The medical profession may have respect but the so-called "professionals" just don't anymore. A microcosm of the rest of the world.

Also, in the military there's a reason for separation for the officers not to fraternize with the enlisted because it blurs the lines at work and discipline is difficult to your friends. That's one of the prOBlems with nursing also. Nurses who party with CNA's can't discipline them when they're not doing their jOB.

(of course I know there's always some military personnel who fraternize, but there has always been rule breakers, but if was usually because of a woman).

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Nearly all aspects of professionalism that have to do with Christian morals has been cast aside. It's really terrible that there is almost no safe place to go anymore where one isn't bombard with in-your-face filth of one kind or another.

 

On a more positive note, I thought maybe I should point out one bright exception to the abundance of "naughty nurses" out there. Our little town has a small clinic owned and run by a nurse practitioner who employs one woman who handles all the paperwork and office stuff, one who handles the front window, appointments and such, and two nurses. The nurse practitioner is a member of our church and she's on our churches Board of Christian Education (which I'm on as well). All of the women she employs are members of our church. All five of these women have good, healthy Christian marriages and children they had with their husbands after marriage. All of these women dress modestly and professionally. There is a sign near the front window that says if anyone is using curse words or starts otherwise speaking inappropriately they will be asked to leave and refused service.

 

I get blood work at the clinic every six weeks. This morning I arrived early and the door was still locked so I just waited on the little porch area at the front door. When they opened the door the lady that runs the front window apologized for being late to open the door because they had been doing their daily Bible reading and prayer before the clinic opened and they had run a little late. How refreshing! I certainly don't mind waiting a few minutes because the ladies who are going to be helping folks with health matters are reading the Word and praying before they start their work day!

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There are several ladies in our church who are nurses.  They are very professional, as are a good chunk of nurses in the area. Not all, certainly, but many. My hubby was in the emergency room a while back (about 3 months ago) and the nurses there were great. Of course, it's a Catholic institution, and all of their hospitals are staffed by good workers.  I don't know if that makes any difference or not.

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