Members Dr James Ach Posted June 12, 2014 Members Share Posted June 12, 2014 Dr. Elisha Weismann Contrary to critics like James White, Rick Norris, Fred Butler, JD Hall, Doug Cutelick, and all modern professional liars, the King James Only view did not begin with Peter Ruckman, Ruckman was merely instrumental in causing professing Baptists to quit riding the fence on the issue. Thomas Morris posted the following quote […]View the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jeffrey Posted June 12, 2014 Members Share Posted June 12, 2014 Just heard an interview with Dr James White, He named some other people that was KJVO before Ruckman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Covenanter Posted June 12, 2014 Members Share Posted June 12, 2014 Surely everybody between about 1660 & 1881 (Revised version) was KJO? And KJO was the generally held position among evangelicals until about 1980. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Arbo Posted June 12, 2014 Members Share Posted June 12, 2014 From the article: … the Authorized Translation of the Bible, which appeared in 1611…our English translation is even better than the original Hebrew and Greek. There is only one way to explain this…I am confident that the Authorized Version was inspired. Is this what is known as secondary inspiration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted June 12, 2014 Members Share Posted June 12, 2014 What a seriously flawed statement. In order for our English Bible to be "better than the original Hebrew and Greek" that would mean somehow the originals God directly inspired were inferior. There are some who lift the KJB up to the point of an idol with their false ideas and over exalting of it somehow rising above the original, directly, divinely inspired Scripture. I believe the KJB is the true Word of God as were the originals and the faithful copies which followed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators HappyChristian Posted June 12, 2014 Administrators Share Posted June 12, 2014 I was KJB before Ruckman became known outside his home area. It's been the Bible I used since childhood (except for one year in school: the teacher gave us all Good News for Modern Man. We called it Bad News for Modern Apes - hated it) and still use today. And I didn't need a man (who doesn't belong in the pulpit, IMO) to tell me so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted June 13, 2014 Members Share Posted June 13, 2014 I've been KJB since the Holy Ghost "told me" to use the KJB. It wasn't until after that before I ever even heard of anyone being KJO. It wasn't until I joined this board that I ever heard of Ruckman. I don't like any of the paraphrase "Bibles" (which I don't really consider to be actual Bibles because they are some man's idea of taking God's Word and then putting His Word into the man's own choice of wording as if he could do a better jOB than God! All the while, these paraphrases which are not backed by any scholarship or peer review for accuracy, are tainted and sometimes outright tarnished with the leanings and preferences of how the paraphraser would like things to read. I've never been able to understand why the NIV ever became so popular. That's one of the worst versions I've encountered. I've read books or articles where the author uses the NIV and I will read the passage from the NIV in the book and then go "huh?". Then I look it up in my KJB to find out what the verse or passage actually says and means. I'm thankful God Himself directed me to the KJB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members candlelight Posted June 13, 2014 Members Share Posted June 13, 2014 I was KJB before Ruckman became known outside his home area. It's been the Bible I used since childhood (except for one year in school: the teacher gave us all Good News for Modern Man. We called it Bad News for Modern Apes - hated it) and still use today. And I didn't need a man (who doesn't belong in the pulpit, IMO) to tell me so. HC, is this because of Ruckman's many marriages. Some of them after he was saved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jeffrey Posted June 13, 2014 Members Share Posted June 13, 2014 From the article: … the Authorized Translation of the Bible, which appeared in 1611…our English translation is even better than the original Hebrew and Greek. There is only one way to explain this…I am confident that the Authorized Version was inspired. Is this what is known as secondary inspiration? Hence, this is the prOBlem u have with these people who feel that the 1611 is better than the originals. It puts the translation as an idol and people worship it, rather than God our Savior. Saw this on another forum; apparently the KJV agrees with the Watch Tower Society John 14:14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it. KJV John 14:14 You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it. NIV John 14:14 If you ask me anything in my name, I will do it. ESV John 14:14 "If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it. NASB John 14:14 If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it. HCSB you notice what is missing in the KJV? All translations have their issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators HappyChristian Posted June 13, 2014 Administrators Share Posted June 13, 2014 Hence, this is the prOBlem u have with these people who feel that the 1611 is better than the originals. It puts the translation as an idol and people worship it, rather than God our Savior. Saw this on another forum; apparently the KJV agrees with the Watch Tower Society John 14:14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it. KJV John 14:14 You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it. NIV John 14:14 If you ask me anything in my name, I will do it. ESV John 14:14 "If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it. NASB John 14:14 If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it. HCSB you notice what is missing in the KJV? All translations have their issues Heh. I would say that the Watch Tower Society agrees with the KJB, not the other way around...especially since the KJB came first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators HappyChristian Posted June 13, 2014 Administrators Share Posted June 13, 2014 HC, is this because of Ruckman's many marriages. Some of them after he was saved? That's the biggie, yes. (I don't want to derail the thread, though...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jeffrey Posted June 13, 2014 Members Share Posted June 13, 2014 Heh. I would say that the Watch Tower Society agrees with the KJB, not the other way around...especially since the KJB came first. Luanne, seriously, do you see the mistake in the KJV compared ti the other translations? I'll let you look at it before I point it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators HappyChristian Posted June 13, 2014 Administrators Share Posted June 13, 2014 Luanne, seriously, do you see the mistake in the KJV compared ti the other translations? I'll let you look at it before I point it out I presume that you are prOBably referencing the fact that "me" isn't in there. If so, I don't accept that it's a mistake. Reading the context plainly points out whom we are to ask... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jeffrey Posted June 13, 2014 Members Share Posted June 13, 2014 I presume that you are prOBably referencing the fact that "me" isn't in there. If so, I don't accept that it's a mistake. Reading the context plainly points out whom we are to ask... but you can say that when we pray to God and not Jesus, that God will hear us, Rather that we do pray to Jesus in Heaven and Jesus will answer. It more proves Christ's divinity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jeffrey Posted June 13, 2014 Members Share Posted June 13, 2014 Actually, the watchtower does point to that verse to use against Christ divinity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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