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????  Who said I believe you to be wrong??   Who accused you of being wrong??  What is the false accusations I am being accused of making towards you??  What false doctrine am I spreading??? 

 

Think you can get more than four replies out of him this time?   :nuts:

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Oh, and don't forget to blast me for preaching the truth on my Facebook page, my Twitter account, and in the eyes of God.

Thank you

Matthew 5:11-12 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

short of getting out the crayons and coloring you a picture to see if you understand, I will try to make this easy enough for you to understand my point.  The reason I am sounding a bit condescending is only because I can not believe how you missed my point in my first posting to this thread.  I am just ...wow...I dont know...wow...how did you miss it???  

 

OK, here goes...a man is in the emergency room with a gun shot.  he is also having a heart attack.  he has a broken arm.  and he has an ingrown toe nail.  All of this is truth.  The staff is tring to get his heart going.  Others are putting gauze in the bullet wound so he doesn't bleed to death when his heart starts pumping again.  They restrained his broken arm from flopping around while they work on him.  And here you are in the back of the E.R. demanding they take care of the ingrown toe nail.  You are not only demanding, you are banging on the garbage can, you have a bull horn, you are calling for friends to help you yell, you are letting off fireworks trying to get their attention.  "Take care of his tow nail!!!" you are yelling.  Yes, it is true he has an ingrown toe nail.

 

SFiC, I am not accusing you of being wrong.  With all the trouble in today's world and the need for the gospel to be spread and so many other issues at hand, you are using all your valuable God-given time to warn about the tithe.  You are worried about the toe nail.  If there was anything I wanted to accuse you of, it would be that you are not being a good steward with God's time he gave you.  Do you really believe that you are correct in this endeavor in "the eyes of God"? 

 

BTW, the verse you used...I do not revile you nor am I speaking evil against you falsley and I am certainly not going to persecute you.  So hold off on that reward you were already counting. 

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(Jeffery's done it, TGL's done it, etc). 

First, it's Jeffrey, second, I haven't brought up any trouble other than things that I have heard in my own IFB pulpit. I see more "pot stirrers" among your own ilk than I do from the outsiders, this thread is proof.

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I could be mistaken, but Salyan doesn't believe in a pre-trib rapture, Dr. Ach.  

If I am wrong, please correct me Salyan.

 

Consider yourself corrected! Don't know where you got that idea.

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Consider yourself corrected! Don't know where you got that idea.

 

Okay.  I am mistaken and I apologize, sister.  I got the idea from the thread that I posted on the "rapture", then quickly closed b/c some of the other members including Ukelelemike commented in the thread, when I asked them not to.  I got the wrong impression from your post in that thread.  I shouldn't have assumed that.  I haven't studied the rapture for years, and the reason I posted that thread was to help a Christian friend on Facebook.  I was looking for scriptures for her as she has come to the conclusion that the church won't go through the Tribulation.  She is one of my non-denominational friends in Christ who is leaning towards joining the IFB.  Again, my sincere apologies.

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I also vote for Dr. Ach as head moderator :) that makes 2


You do realize that he has his own forum site, right?

Ed to add: Do you realize how insulting toward the present mods your comment comes across as?
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And this is a perfect example of Covenanter (and most Calvinist's) slight-of-hand misleading rhetoric.

 

Why post a video on John 3:16 when you KNOW that you don't believe it?

 

Now let me show you how the Calvinist pulls this off:

 

1) Speak in terms that others not familiar with Calvinist doctrine or rhetoric understand, like the language in John 3:16 where there is a common sense of what "world", and "whosoever" means. See Covenanters comments> here for an example of such usage

 

2) But once they are pressured into further clarifying their terms, you see the mystery and the deception unravel as Covenanter does> here on comment #46 in telling you what 'world" and 'whosoever' in John 3:16 REALLY means!

 

You can also simply start at the beginning of that >thread here and see how the Calvinists attacking the OP never addressed the arguments, and were the first to be beligerant, beginning with Covenanter's condescending remarks in #9, #15 and especially #20. The Calvinist fuel then gets added to by Auburn88 on post #29 who followed me to OB from another forum so he could take everything I said and post it on the Baptist Board.  This is also a good place to start for others unfamiliar with the history and growing tension on this forum, and how some of the Calvinists even attacked the moderators here.

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Now here's a real beaut...This is where Candlelight is responding to Covenanter when he made this comment about me: 

 

"Yes, "Dr" Ach specialises in deliberate misunderstanding of anyone he disagrees with, & refuting his own misunderstandings." >(Comment #51)

 

....to which Candlelight replies, "Could it be b/c he was saved out of Judaism, and all you do is preach false doctrine on Preterism?  FYI, God IS NOT done with the Jews".

 

And how did the mods respond? Happy Christian replies: " Candlelight, stop this thing you have against Covenantor. And the mods. You are being contentious, my friend. And it's not pretty." which of course, is liked by only Covenanter.

 

NOT ONE WORD WAS SAID ABOUT COVENANTER'S NASTY REMARKS, BUT THE PERSON POINTING THEM OUT GETS REBUKED FOR DOING SO. And this is one of many examples of the type of inconsistent moderating that has allowed this forum to become the mess it is now.

 

**In that same thread, Steve Schwank also noted that:

"LuAnne [Happy Christian], this is the thing that is driving some of us bonkers.  The mods jump on US, but seem to let all manner of attacks from them slide! 

It is very inconsistent, not to say disheartening to those of us who were raised in IFB churches who have been teaching something similar to what we are STILL TEACHING today.  Both of my Grandparents went to IFB schools in the 40's and 50's and both taught a mild form of dispensationalism, so it is nothing new to our ranks. 

 

But the point is that the preterists can call us HERETICS with no rebuke!!! I don't get that!"

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This hymn along with the rOBes the choir members are wearing, and the candles, reminded me of the RCC Covenanter.

That's because it IS Catholic. That college used to be called "The King's College of Our Lady [Mary] and Saint Nicholas in Cambridge", and considering that Ion (Covenanter) is from England, he is well aware of that.

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That's because it IS Catholic. That college used to be called "The King's College of Our Lady [Mary] and Saint Nicholas in Cambridge", and considering that Ion (Covenanter) is from England, he is well aware of that.

I gathered that, Dr. Ach.  It is a huge turn off for me.  I listened to that growing up.  The RCC likes to put on a show.  I was surprised that I didn't hear any chanting.  LOL  I love the simplicity of the IFB choir.  Gospel hymns praising our Lord Jesus Christ.

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