Members The Glory Land Posted May 15, 2014 Members Share Posted May 15, 2014 If you find a church that is maintained very well, you will find that the workers are getting paid to do it. Christians don't volunteer any more like they use too. Many say they will come and never show up. If you're having this prOBlem, just take or use the tithing money. It OK, God know how busy the modern Christians are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators HappyChristian Posted May 15, 2014 Administrators Share Posted May 15, 2014 Well, then, our church is unusual because members do most of the maintenance work (and a good bit of the building...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Glory Land Posted May 15, 2014 Author Members Share Posted May 15, 2014 Well, then, our church is unusual because members do most of the maintenance work (and a good bit of the building...). Check back in five years with a report, and will see if it is still the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators HappyChristian Posted May 15, 2014 Administrators Share Posted May 15, 2014 Check back in five years with a report, and will see if it is still the same. Considering that we are going on 45 years, ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members quinkie Posted May 15, 2014 Members Share Posted May 15, 2014 It's the same in our church, volunteers do the work. It is usually the SAME volunteers, but we do not pay to get the church cleaned, the yard mowed, the musicians are not paid, and neither are the singers or music director. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Moderators Salyan Posted May 15, 2014 Moderators Share Posted May 15, 2014 If you find a church that is maintained very well, you will find that the workers are getting paid to do it. Christians don't volunteer any more like they use too. Many say they will come and never show up. If you're having this prOBlem, just take or use the tithing money. It OK, God know how busy the modern Christians are.  This is not true. In our church, the janitors are paid, but maintenance/upkeep is voluntary.  Truth be told, TGL, I'm getting rather fed up with your negative comments. Can you ever present a positive view of the church and pastors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Joseph Redgate Posted May 15, 2014 Members Share Posted May 15, 2014 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members swathdiver Posted May 15, 2014 Members Share Posted May 15, 2014 If you find a church that is maintained very well, you will find that the workers are getting paid to do it. Christians don't volunteer any more like they use too. Many say they will come and never show up. If you're having this prOBlem, just take or use the tithing money. It OK, God know how busy the modern Christians are. Â Why don't you come on down to the Treasure Coast this Sunday and visit my New Testament Church TGL? Â We'll show you how its done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Salyan Posted May 15, 2014 Moderators Share Posted May 15, 2014 TGL, Â Since I am new to the IFB community, I was wondering if you could tell me how you came up with your list in you post: "Start an Independent baptist Church." Â It looks to be very detailed and seems to follow a sort of formula. Â As someone new, I was hoping you could explain that to me. Â Â Joseph, you may want to take TGL with a grain of salt. His comments usually reflect a rather dysfunctional view of the church and the pastoral ministry. I would definitely not take them as indicative of how IFB churches should or do function. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators OLD fashioned preacher Posted May 15, 2014 Moderators Share Posted May 15, 2014 Joseph, TGL is a dyed-in-the-wool, certified, Grade A chain yanker. Â He might be an alright guy in real life, but I don't believe he's exhibiting his real-life presence here (of course, I have been wrong before) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Glory Land Posted May 15, 2014 Author Members Share Posted May 15, 2014 This is not true. In our church, the janitors are paid, but maintenance/upkeep is voluntary. Truth be told, TGL, I'm getting rather fed up with your negative comments. Can you ever present a positive view of the church and pastors? You can try avoiding me, like I avoid you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted May 16, 2014 Members Share Posted May 16, 2014 Most things in our church are tended to by volunteers, our pastors and the church secretary (male). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EKSmith Posted May 16, 2014 Members Share Posted May 16, 2014 Christians that are paid serve Christ better ?? for 15 years I was a youth pastor never taking any pay for serving the Lord leading many lost teens to trust in Jesus as their savior and training them to become disciples to go out into the world  to share the gospel I was replaced by a young person that was payed to entertain the youth and within a year our church lost most of it's youth to other churches with better entertainment. Today I work in the Evangelist ministry training disciples and don't get payed and would refuse pay if it was offered I was called by God to serve Him for His Glory and not that of myself. To serve= giving freely of one's self from the heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MountainChristian Posted May 16, 2014 Members Share Posted May 16, 2014 They call a work day at my church and the men show up and work. They don't tell me anymore because I have Lupus and my company forced me to take disability/retirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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