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Prophet, I have attempted to show you how unreasonable you are in these statements. They absurdly over the top, and fail to take into consideration the entire life's work of a person, instead of highlighting their human failures. I even gave Scriptural examples - you can't get much worse than Peter denying the Lord on 3 occasions, but the Lord didn't cast him aside. He forgave him and restored him. Your hatred for dispensationalism has given you a blind eye to some things, and you are lumping things together that don't belong together. It is too bad you can't be more reasonable about this because I think that we are very close on many issues outside of dispensationalism. It would be one thing if you presented your case more reasonably, but when you constantly lay the blame at Scofield's feet, and constantly overlook the REAL Bible perverters like Westcott and Hort, and then even go so far as to say that Scofield's work was Satanic???? That's just too much for me. That's why I put you on my ignore list to begin with....but I was hopeful we could get past that point. So, happy soul-winning, and may the Lord's blessing be on your ministry. Romans 14:4 "...to his own master he standeth or falleth..." In Christ,
I'm always amazed at how people who claim to love God's Word side with those who attack it , when it suits them. Scofield preferred Westcott and Hort to Jesus, don't you get it? He sided with them, over the AV. And I'm blind? O well, run away. It takes courage to face the truth. Anishinaabe Edited by prophet1
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Scofield preferred Westcott and Hort to Jesus, don't you get it? He sided with them, over the AV.

 

Okay, I really don't know much about Scofield, but from what I do know about him, that's a harsh statement and highly likely to be untrue. I think you're just trying to make a point, but exaggeration doesn't help the position any.

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Nice....now I am a coward???

 

I see....glad to know that.

 

Salyan,

he really believes what he is saying is true.  The prOBlem is not his position as much as it is his lambasting of MY position, and then implying that I am a coward because I choose not to engage in a running "debate" - uh, rather, one-sided argument, with one side sticking his fingers in his ears and yelling at the top of his lungs. 

I don't have time for that....I have more than I can handle right now trying to keep up with everything on my plate.  Having rational discussions with those who are sincerely interested in learning - that's one thing.  Shouting contests????  Not for me.

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Scofield was deceived like a lot of bible scholars, as well as regular Christian folks, about the issue of textual critcism. The time he lived was when the teachings of higher criticism began to really take off and many were swept off their feet.  It could be possible that if he were alive today things may be different. That being said, the difference between Scofield and Wescott/Hort was Scofield had a heart for the dissemination of truth while Wescott and Hort, in their own words, INTENTIONALLY set out to alter the words of God.

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Okay, I really don't know much about Scofield, but from what I do know about him, that's a harsh statement and highly likely to be untrue. I think you're just trying to make a point, but exaggeration doesn't help the position any.

Read the Slander of the Translators in the 2Thes. Intro, in a Scofield reference Bible.
I am interested in your reaction, in lightbof my accusation.

Anishinaabe

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Nice thread.  Personally, I like the term "Independent" in the word Baptist.  It catches people's attention, then I can explain to them the various different Baptist churches throughout history.  As I recall, there are 26, and prOBably still growing.  ;)  I get into the false doctrine of many of these Baptist churches, and people want to know more about the IFB.  I am also godly proud of the word Baptist.  I like wearing the tag.  We have such a rich history, as everyone knows.  Why not share it with the lost, and also with anyone who is not IFB?

Brother Steve, my first pastor and I were talking about BOB Jones University on Wednesday night after service.  We also talked about Dr. Ruckman and David Cloud.  We don't get into the mess with the "camps" where I live.  Both men have contributed greatly to the word of God.  He also told me that before I came to my church, David Cloud preached a sermon one morning.  The saints loved it.

 

Also, I am sure that everyone knows that Dr. James Beller went home to be with the Lord a couple of weeks ago.  I loved his book on Baptist history, "America in Crimson Red."  What an eyeopener!  Has anyone read his book, "The Coming Destruction of the Baptists?"  That is one I would love to read, as well.  Dr. Beller was a Facebook friend of mine, and helped me witness to Muslims on my Timeline.

"God doesn't make perfect men of God, He makes willing men." ~ Author Unknown   

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I did not know that Br. Beller went home to be with the Lord!  My!  We have lost a great friend to the Baptist cause.

I have read the book you referred to and it is good.  Basically it talks about how Baptists are losing their identity because they don't know their Biblical roots and history.  It also discusses how evangelical history replaced Baptist history in the schools - even Baptist schools. 

Good book.  Worth reading.

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Yes.  He contracted Meningitis which affected his heart.  He had open heart surgery and was doing well for a bit.  Then, he died suddenly.  We certainly have Steve!  

Isn't that the truth, brother.  I cannot believe the number of Baptists that don't know our rich history.  Some people have no idea that we didn't come out of Rome.  They think Baptists came out of the Protestant Reformation.  Many Baptist colleges are on shaky ground.  That is why I am a firm believer in an institute in the local IFB church.  Although, some IFB's have no choice but to send their children to Baptist schools, as there is no college in their church or any church nearby.  I am thankful that we have two wonderful Bible institutes in IFB churches in my area.  

Thank you for giving me a summary of his book, "The Coming Destruction of the Baptist People."

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