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to discuss the differences of the church of the wilderness/the church of the first born, and the the church, the body of Christ, one must study them out first to know the differences, it is OBvious by his question he has not.  So why waste time discussing with someone who does not know the topic at hand?
 
It is like knowing the differences between divorce for Israel and for the Body of Christ.  If you don't know the differences then you will blend them and so you end up going around and around like he and UKU are doing and like he does on many subjects.
 
It is like talking about the differences in a Granny Green Apple and Red Delicious if you know the differences then you can proceed along and discuss details of those difference.  But if you don;t you just keep calling them apples and lump them all together.


Being on a forum is about discussion and learning. It's fine if you don't want to answer him.Just don't start with the snarkiness. That's my point. I'm actually surprised you don't want toexplain...you seem to enjoy teaching people.

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Being on a forum is about discussion and learning. It's fine if you don't want to answer him.Just don't start with the snarkiness. That's my point. I'm actually surprised you don't want toexplain...you seem to enjoy teaching people.

Teaching only works when people are wanting to learn.  In every instance of conversing with Swath I have yet to find him desiring to learn.  Most of the time he enjoys saying he doesn't agree and argue.

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Teaching only works when people are wanting to learn. This is true...although we all still try it when others disagree with us. In every instance of conversing with Swath I have yet to find him desiring to learn.  Most of the time he enjoys saying he doesn't agree and argue. And this could describe all of us at one time or another (some of us all the time  :ROFL: )

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Eph_5:23  For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. 
Col_1:18  And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. 
Col_1:24  Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body's sake, which is the church: 
 
 
37 times the Bible uses the word "Churches".
80 times the Bible uses the word "Church".
 
You can not have "universal churches" - any reference to churches indicates local churches.
Any reference to "church" in Acts before chapter 9 is talking about the church at Jerusalem - Acts 9 is where Saul left Jerusalem for Damascus to search out those who had left Jerusalem BECAUSE OF HIS PERSECUTION. In Acts 2:47 fir instance where it says that the Lord added to the Church, it speaks singular because there was only one church at that time - the LOCAL church at Jerusalem.
 
In Acts 12 for instance we are still talking the church at Jerusalem - the context indicates this.
 
The vast majority of references tot he word "Church" use definitive terms like "the church at..." indicating a particular local church at a particular place; or terms like "every church", which indicates a multiplicity of singular units.
 
The overwhelming weight of evidence is that the church is only ever spoken of as a local unit - even "the church in the wilderness" speaking of Israel, is a local "church", and the gathering of the saints in Heaven, whist being made up of all saints from all time, is a local church - local in heaven.
 
And it is plainly stated that the body is the local church (see references above).
 
I think that maybe certain people who think themselves to be superior in their study should do a small amount of basic word study and they will find that the overwhelming evidence is that the Body of Christ is the local church - not some all inclusive term for all believers.
There are certain verses which are somewhat doubtful, but the overwhelming usage of the term body is in reference to the local church.
 
Maybe you should stop demeaning Swath, do some study for yourself, and try to answer his questions.
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