Members Invicta Posted May 11, 2016 Members Share Posted May 11, 2016 20 hours ago, Eric Stahl said: 666 will rule the world for 3.5 years or half the tribulation. Who will rule for the other half? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Eric Stahl Posted May 12, 2016 Author Members Share Posted May 12, 2016 23 hours ago, Invicta said: Who will rule for the other half? World war which will be won by 10 kings by mid tribulation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Invicta Posted May 13, 2016 Members Share Posted May 13, 2016 Of course that is all in the past. The Roman empire was conquered by 10 kings And we in Europe are living under the successors of those kings now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wretched Posted May 13, 2016 Members Share Posted May 13, 2016 16 minutes ago, Invicta said: Of course that is all in the past. The Roman empire was conquered by 10 kings And we in Europe are living under the successors of those kings now. Howdy Invicta, 7 barbaric tribes does not make 10 kings and it was a mercenary working for Rome who actually conquered Rome itself. Curious which kings you are referring to? Honest question.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Invicta Posted May 13, 2016 Members Share Posted May 13, 2016 2 hours ago, wretched said: Howdy Invicta, 7 barbaric tribes does not make 10 kings and it was a mercenary working for Rome who actually conquered Rome itself. Curious which kings you are referring to? Honest question.... It was 10 tribes who conquered the empire not seven/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wretched Posted May 13, 2016 Members Share Posted May 13, 2016 Just now, Invicta said: It was 10 tribes who conquered the empire not seven/ Well, history according to men is always skewed by men's agendas. From what I have read it was 7 and that is confirmed by several other sources. But I have little doubt that other books or websites would say 10, 11 or whatever. IOWs: it is a junk-shoot which to believe. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted May 13, 2016 Members Share Posted May 13, 2016 43 minutes ago, Invicta said: It was 10 tribes who conquered the empire not seven/ What 10 tribes? I've read many Dispensationalists claim Rome was never conquered and therefore technically still exists and will one day be revived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Invicta Posted May 13, 2016 Members Share Posted May 13, 2016 (edited) The historian Machiavel without any reference to this prophecy gives the ten kingdoms as: Lombards, Franks, Burgungians, Ostrogoths, Visigoths, Vandals, Heruli, Sueves, Huns, Saxons. The horn which subdued the three kings is the papacy and the three kings he subdued were the Lombards, Visigoths and Sueves (Suabi) Dan 7:24 Â And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings. Â Â Edited May 13, 2016 by Invicta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fredconk Posted May 14, 2016 Members Share Posted May 14, 2016 Invicta ; are you asking about Daniel 7:4 and Revelation 12:14 ? Please forgive me for not getting back sooner but there has been a lot of things happening around my home lately. I haven't even made a doctor's appointment for myself , my right shoulder is aching terribly. It's limiting my ability to do many things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators HappyChristian Posted May 14, 2016 Administrators Share Posted May 14, 2016 The Germanic tribes were nomadic, not kingdoms. Â Many of the tribes merged to form kingdoms (like the Angles and Saxons in Britain) AFTER the fall of Rome. Ronda and wretched 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Invicta Posted May 14, 2016 Members Share Posted May 14, 2016 History lists them as Gothic tribes with kings. Kings in the bible may not be what we would call kings today, some ruled just one town. Â We would probably call them mayors. A tribe with a tribal leader would be a kingdom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators HappyChristian Posted May 14, 2016 Administrators Share Posted May 14, 2016 Yes, some history lists them as kings. Kinda like the Irish kings of yore. But honest histories explain that those kings are actually the same as chieftains. Nomadic tribes took down the Roman Empire. Not kingdoms. The kingdoms came afterward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Invicta Posted May 14, 2016 Members Share Posted May 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, HappyChristian said: Yes, some history lists them as kings. Kinda like the Irish kings of yore. But honest histories explain that those kings are actually the same as chieftains. Nomadic tribes took down the Roman Empire. Not kingdoms. The kingdoms came afterward. They set up kingdoms, for instance the Burgundians in France who still have a region named after them. Â In the past their kingdom would have been much greater as there are many small towns and villages outside the region that bear the name Bourguignon (Burgundian) Â Chieftains would be classed as kings in the bible/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators HappyChristian Posted May 14, 2016 Administrators Share Posted May 14, 2016 They set up kingdoms AFTER the fall of Rome. Â They were NOT the 10 kings of prophecy. Particularly since a number of the tribes were offshoots of other tribes. It is assumption to claim that chieftains were the kings that the Bible prophesied. Especially since, when the prophecies took place, there were actual kings, not chieftains, ruling actual kingdoms, not family clans. Ronda and Alan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Invicta Posted May 14, 2016 Members Share Posted May 14, 2016 They overthrew the Roman Empire and set up kingdoms over much of German France Italy and Spain, Â Hardly family tribes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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