Members BOB 4 GOD Posted March 29, 2014 Members Share Posted March 29, 2014 Here is what they say.... If you are trying to make yourselves right with God by keeping the law, you have been cut off from Christ! You have fallen away from God’s grace. Love the legalistic, hate the legalism... "Legalism kills more congregations and stops more individual spiritual development than sin does..." THE TRUTH IS.... All Christians are under the commandments of Jesus Christ! To be RIGHT with God... you have to OBey ALL the commandments of Jesus Christ! To reject the commandments of Jesus Christ, is to reject Jesus. The commandments of Jesus Christ...The Word made flesh... the words of eternal life...is the only way to God. To reject the commandments of Jesus Christ is to reject Christ the Son of the Living God. John 6:28-29 Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent." To believe Jesus(the one God sent) is toOBey His commandments. This is the work of God. If you do not believe Jesus(the one God sent)... you will disregard and not OBey the commandments of Jesus Christ. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Matt. 7:21-23 It's OBvious these "many" people believed in the Lord, it's also OBvious they believed they were saved. So how is it the Lord said, "depart from me?" The Lord has condemned them to hell. The Lord says "I never knew you." How is that possible? This really is easy to understand. And elementary. You have 2 people. One is OBEYING the commandments of Jesus Christ. One is DISOBEYING the commandments of Jesus Christ. Which one is Jesus going to say depart from me, ye that work iniquity? I will give you 1 guess. Now the devil is going to tell you.... why you do not or have to OBey the commandments of Jesus Christ to be saved) But the truth is.... the devil is going to tell you anything but the fact that you have to OBey the commandments of Jesus Christ to be in Christ, which is what you have to do to be right with God. Simple as that! very elementary! There is GOOD works and there is EVIL works. Does God reward you for doing GOOD works? Yes or No What does God reward you for doing GOOD works? Blessings or Curses Does God punish or reward you for doing evil works? Yes or No What does God reward you for doing evil works? Blessings or Punishment(curses) Does it please God for you to do GOOD works? Yes or No What does God reward you with when you please Him by doing GOOD works? Blessings or Curses Does it please God for you to do evil works? Yes or No What does God reward you with when you displease Him by doing Evil works? Blessings or Punishment(curses) Very Simple And Very Elementary! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Salyan Posted March 29, 2014 Moderators Share Posted March 29, 2014 Thank you, Watson. I think you've got paragraph eight backwards, though. The Bible does not say that belief in Jesus is the OBeying of His commands. It states that the work of God for salvation is to believe on Jesus. The believer is saved unto good worlds, but they are not a part of salvation. "For it is by faith ye are saved, through, grace, not of works, lest any man should boast." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaveW Posted March 29, 2014 Members Share Posted March 29, 2014 How hard is it to do an IP check? Just wondering...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EKSmith Posted March 29, 2014 Members Share Posted March 29, 2014 welcome brother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted March 29, 2014 Members Share Posted March 29, 2014 No one can OBey the commands of Christ unless they are born again. Even then, no one can perfectly OBey the commands of Christ in this life. Those born again in Christ are told that if we truly love Him, we will keep His commandments. A desire to and striving to keep His commands is a fruit and proof of our salvation. No man is saved by keeping of the law. Salvation, which is very simple, comes by grace through faith in Christ. Keeping the commands of Christ and doing the work of the Father comes AFTER salvation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ASongOfDegrees Posted March 29, 2014 Members Share Posted March 29, 2014 Revelation 22:14- Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members swathdiver Posted March 29, 2014 Members Share Posted March 29, 2014 He's back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wretched Posted March 29, 2014 Members Share Posted March 29, 2014 Ah, the yes or no guy. Curious, do you know the right or wrong gal? How comes she never posts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheWordOfKnowledge Posted April 2, 2014 Members Share Posted April 2, 2014 Here is what they say.... If you are trying to make yourselves right with God by keeping the law, you have been cut off from Christ! You have fallen away from God’s grace. Love the legalistic, hate the legalism... "Legalism kills more congregations and stops more individual spiritual development than sin does..." THE TRUTH IS.... All Christians are under the commandments of Jesus Christ! To be RIGHT with God... you have to OBey ALL the commandments of Jesus Christ! To reject the commandments of Jesus Christ, is to reject Jesus. The commandments of Jesus Christ...The Word made flesh... the words of eternal life...is the only way to God. To reject the commandments of Jesus Christ is to reject Christ the Son of the Living God. John 6:28-29 Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent." To believe Jesus(the one God sent) is toOBey His commandments. This is the work of God. If you do not believe Jesus(the one God sent)... you will disregard and not OBey the commandments of Jesus Christ. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Matt. 7:21-23 It's OBvious these "many" people believed in the Lord, it's also OBvious they believed they were saved. So how is it the Lord said, "depart from me?" The Lord has condemned them to hell. The Lord says "I never knew you." How is that possible? This really is easy to understand. And elementary. You have 2 people. One is OBEYING the commandments of Jesus Christ. One is DISOBEYING the commandments of Jesus Christ. Which one is Jesus going to say depart from me, ye that work iniquity? I will give you 1 guess. Now the devil is going to tell you.... why you do not or have to OBey the commandments of Jesus Christ to be saved) But the truth is.... the devil is going to tell you anything but the fact that you have to OBey the commandments of Jesus Christ to be in Christ, which is what you have to do to be right with God. Simple as that! very elementary! There is GOOD works and there is EVIL works. Does God reward you for doing GOOD works? Yes or No What does God reward you for doing GOOD works? Blessings or Curses Does God punish or reward you for doing evil works? Yes or No What does God reward you for doing evil works? Blessings or Punishment(curses) Does it please God for you to do GOOD works? Yes or No What does God reward you with when you please Him by doing GOOD works? Blessings or Curses Does it please God for you to do evil works? Yes or No What does God reward you with when you displease Him by doing Evil works? Blessings or Punishment(curses) Very Simple And Very Elementary! I would like to know what part of this any of you do not believe. Cut and past any part or parts of this,that this person said that you do not believe... If none of you do not do this then I will assume that ewverything this person said is the truth to you and you believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaveW Posted April 2, 2014 Members Share Posted April 2, 2014 Can we check the IP on this one as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheWordOfKnowledge Posted April 2, 2014 Members Share Posted April 2, 2014 Can we check the IP on this one as well? Are you the DaveW that post on grace centered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaveW Posted April 2, 2014 Members Share Posted April 2, 2014 I post here and two 4x4 forums, so I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheWordOfKnowledge Posted April 2, 2014 Members Share Posted April 2, 2014 I post here and two 4x4 forums, so I doubt it. I did not ask you anything other than, are you the DaveW that post on gracecentered.com. Can you either please answer with a YES or a No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaveW Posted April 2, 2014 Members Share Posted April 2, 2014 I thought I was pretty clear, but I tell you what.... You answer a question for me and I will give you a yes or no answer after that. Are you the same person who opened this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaveW Posted April 2, 2014 Members Share Posted April 2, 2014 While we are at it.... Have you ever registered on this forum before under any other username? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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