Ted Cruz

[John81]

TED CRUZ FOR PRESIDENT 2016?? SOUNDS GREAT DOESN'T IT?

SADLY, CRUZ IS NOT ELIGIBLE!! Just because Obama "got away with it" doesn't mean conservatives should no longer abide by the Constitution. The fact is that Cruz was born in Canada to a Cuban citizen father and US citizen mother, and we birthers need to hearken back to when we skewered Obama daily back in 2008 over this very thing. Even though most conservatives LOVE Ted Cruz and what he stands for, we should NOT look the other way only when it suits our own purposes. Remember, "natural born citizen" means BORN TO TWO US CITIZEN PARENTS AT THE TIME OF BIRTH.
See RTFC's Eligibility Page for more information...

[HappyChristian]

Excuse me, but whoever wrote that article needs to check the US law code...

 

The founders did not specify their meaning of "natural born" in the Constitution...but what they did do was leave questions like this to Congress.  And Congress is responsible for the US law code.  Which tells us who is and who is not a natural born citizen.  People who write this kind of stuff tend to forget that, under their requirements, none of our first several presidents would have qualified.  But that's okay, because it fits in with their agendas...

[John81]

The writer of the article is a fan of Ted Cruz. He's simply pointing out that based upon the historical definition of a natural born citizen, Ted Cruz isn't qualified. He's also pointing out that many conservatives used that very same argument against Obama  but some are now willing to make an exception for Cruz, which would be hypocrisy on their part.

 

Beyond that, there are many more disturbing aspects to Cruz. Some of which will surely be brought up if he runs for president.

[HappyChristian]

Yes, I know,there are a lot of Cruz "fans" who are pointing out his "ineligibility".  The historical definition? No, there's not really been an historical definition - just an assumption, one that does not stand up to history or the law code.  No, the argument against Obama regarding his birth (which, BTW, was started by a Hillary campaign worker, not conservatives) is quite different from this.  There is absolutely no comparison between Cruz and Obama and their births/lives.

 

For starters, with BO, his mother was not an adult for 5 years by the time of his birth (as required by law at the time).  Cruz' mom, however, was.  BO moved to Jakarta and was in school there - something that could not be done unless one was a citizen of the country...Cruz was born in Canada while his parents were temporarily living there and was back in the US by age 4.  Holding a dual citizenship does not disqualify.  Cruz made his choice to identify as a US citizen when he stayed here.  He made what was obvious official when this tempest in a teapot started.

 

What disturbing aspects?  Please list them...

[HappyChristian]

Oh, and in the 1790 Naturalization Act:  "children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond the sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural-born citizens.”  While it has been changed a number of times, it indicates what the founders meant by natural born.  Cruz has an American born mother. He is not one of the "ambitious foreigners...intriguing for the office" (Justice Joseph Story).

 

 

A scholarly consensus is emerging, however, that anyone who acquires citizenship at birth isnatural born for purposes of Article II.

This consensus rests on firm foundations. First, given Jay’s letter and the language of the 1790 naturalization act, it seems evident that the framers were worried about foreign princes, not children born to American citizens living abroad. Second, the 14-year residency requirement Article II also imposes as a presidential prerequisite ensures that, regardless of their place of birth, would-be presidents must spend a significant time living in the United States before they can run for office.

http://news.yahoo.com/ted-cruz-natural-born-citizen-eligible-serve-president-100207138--politics.html

 

 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/19/cruz-eligible-presidential-run/

 

the 14-page report by the non-partisan office’s legislative attorney Jack Maskell essentially states the Constitution sets out three eligibility requirements to be president: one must be at least 35, a resident within the United States for 14 years and a “natural born citizen.”

The report states "the weight of scholarly legal and historical opinion appears to support the notion that 'natural born citizen' means one who is entitled under the Constitution or laws of the United States to U.S. citizenship 'at birth' or 'by birth,' including … those born abroad of one citizen parent who has met U.S. residency requirements."

[ASongOfDegrees]

He's also pointing out that many conservatives used that very same argument against Obama  but some are now willing to make an exception for Cruz, which would be hypocrisy on their part.

 

 

What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

[Arbo]

What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

 

 

Yep, as long as it is legal. 

 

Were he to run, I wonder who would be considered the 'birthers' then.
 

[ThePilgrim]

What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

One old saw deserves another, so here's mine.

Once you take up the tactics of the enemy your goose is cooked. 

 

God bless,

Larry

[swathdiver]

President Obama was ineligible to be President for a number of reasons regarding his birth and citizenships, not just one, all of which were ignored.  

[ASongOfDegrees]

Yep, as long as it is legal. 

 

Were he to run, I wonder who would be considered the 'birthers' then.
 

They made it legal. Nothing can be said against it on their part now. If they take it to court they would lose because they sent a new precedent and many rulings are based on that.

[candlelight]

Don't mess with HC when it comes to the Constitution.  I have never met anyone that knows more about the Constitution than, LuAnne.  No, I am not asking for brownie points, as we are already friends.

A Ted Cruz/Rand Paul ticket looks good right now, or the opposite.  If conservatives don't unite now, and continue this arguing, we can all just pack it in and hand over everything to the Socialist Leaning Democrats.  Do we want 4 or possibly 8 more years of what we have been dealing with?  This divide and conquer among conservatives has to stop.  I see this on Facebook and it is utterly ridiculous.  Also, get out and vote!  So many born again Christians do not vote in this nation.  That is one of the reasons we are in this mess.

This is all I am going to say on this topic, as I have handed the torch over to my husband on politics.

[HappyChristian]

Don't mess with HC when it comes to the Constitution.  I have never met anyone that knows more about the Constitution than, LuAnne.  No, I am not asking for brownie points, as we are already friends.
 

  Oh, there are multitudes of people who know it better than I do!!! 

[wretched]

Here is an idea, lets make Canada a state if it isn't already. I thought I read somewhere statehood was slipped into a trade agreement several years back

[HappyChristian]

Here is an idea, lets make Canada a state if it isn't already. I thought I read somewhere statehood was slipped into a trade agreement several years back

Heh

[swathdiver]

Don't mess with HC when it comes to the Constitution.  I have never met anyone that knows more about the Constitution than, LuAnne.  

 

 

When I saw HC, I thought this would be really interesting reading, I thought you meant HILLARY CLINTON!  Bwahhhahahaha!!!