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Did The Vatican Create Islam?


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Not sure if you can conclusively prove it but it wouldn't surprise me. The Vatican has been behind a lot of things in this world. 

 

Two verses that get you thinking:

 

Revelation 18

 

[23] And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.
[24] And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

 

If Babylon the Great (aka the Whore of Revelation) is the RCC as many claim then the Papacy will be blamed for all blood shed upon this earth and for the deceptions of every nation. How can this be unless every false religion, every war, every murder of saved and unsaved can some how be traced back the the Papacy? If Islam is a creation of the Vatican then every person murdered or damned in the name of Islam the blame will be placed upon the Papacy. 

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"Jack Chick" :nuts:

 

Mohammed wanted a "unification" religion to bring Christians and Jews together. 

When Mohammed failed, he then turned against Christians and Jews.

It's all in the historical record.

Have you ever read "Mohammed's Believe it or Else"? It's written by a former Muslim and in it he uses the Quran and the Hadith to prove that Mohammed was a white man. I'm not totally convinced of that but he does have his texts to back his claim.

 

Some claim that Mohammed's first wife (and first convert to the religion) was a Roman Catholic nun. Interestingly, Yasser Arafat's wife Sahu Arafat is Roman Catholic. 

 

Here's a link to that book:

 

http://islamcomicbook.com/

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Jack Chick says so...

 
To my knowledge, this video had nothing to do with Jack Chick, HC.  Also, I know a lot about Islam, b/c much of it is incorporated in the RCC Mass.  Muslims also give one another the "sign of peace" as done in the RCC.

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Not sure if you can conclusively prove it but it wouldn't surprise me. The Vatican has been behind a lot of things in this world. 

 

Two verses that get you thinking:

 

Revelation 18

 

[23] And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.
[24] And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

 

If Babylon the Great (aka the Whore of Revelation) is the RCC as many claim then the Papacy will be blamed for all blood shed upon this earth and for the deceptions of every nation. How can this be unless every false religion, every war, every murder of saved and unsaved can some how be traced back the the Papacy? If Islam is a creation of the Vatican then every person murdered or damned in the name of Islam the blame will be placed upon the Papacy. 

That is PRECISELY what those verses mean :) The "Whore" is mainly the mystery part of the beast that has fueled the beast since Nimrod, Pharoah, Sennacherib, Nebbie, Darius, Alex, Caesar and ending with Caesar. 

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I also want to share that a few years ago I visited a mosque in Cleveland.  It was very hard to find.  Very hidden in a wooded area.  It reminded me of the Jesuit Retreat House on the east side of Cleveland, where they have armed security guards standing at the gates.  Anyway, I went into the mosque and stood in the main room just prior to the call for noonday prayer.  I walked around the building and approached the school door.  I managed to flag down a Muslim woman who was covered in her black burka.  Her burka reminded me of the nuns that taught me in 7th and 8th grade in Parochial school.  She was the spitting image of a nun without the white.  She cracked the door open and asked me, "Who sent you?"  I said, myself.  I told her I wanted to pick up a copy of the Qur'an.  Her words were also similar to the nuns in the convent who used to say, "Who goes there?"  She had me wait in the hot vestibule outside the mosque.  Five minutes later, another Muslim woman, who was more modern in dress, took me to her office and showed me a box of Qur'ans that just came in.  She gave me a copy for free.  We talked about how good middle eastern food is, and she said she loves American food.  I was escorted out of the mosque by both women.  They wanted to make sure I wasn't around for the call to prayer.  

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To my knowledge, this video had nothing to do with Jack Chick, HC.  Also, I know a lot about Islam, b/c much of it is incorporated in the RCC Mass.  Muslims also give one another the "sign of peace" as done in the RCC.

Oh, it probably doesn't. I was just saying that because he has popularized that belief (even if it's accurate, he's the one who made it popular).

 

There are similarities between Islam and the RCC.

 

~belief in one creator

~belief in the God of Abraham (even though the son of promise is different, and Islam doesn't accept God as the Father)

~belief that Jesus was (although Islam only accepts him as a prophet)

~belief that Jesus was born of a virgin (Islam does not accept His crucifixion and resurrection0

~belief that Jesus ascended to Heaven (Islam does not accept that He sits on the right hand of God the Father)

~belief in the Holy Ghost (to Islam that is the angel Gabriel)

~belief in forgiveness of sins, resurrection, everlasting life (although Islam's way of reaching that is different...)

 

Both religious groups use prayer beads (as do several other religions).

Both beliefs have groups that kill in order to dominate.

 

Islam rejects some of the things Catholicism accepts (like statuary).

 

Honore de  Balzac believed that Islam grew out of Catholicism, rejecting some points of it.  In actual truth, all false religions have a smidgeon of truth in them...Catholicism is a false religion to begin with, so what Islam might have taken from it simply bred more falsehoods.

 

My personal belief? I tend to lean towards the idea that Islam grew out of Catholicism, and was adapted by men (or a man) who tailored the belief to fit his desires (kinda like Joseph Smith and Mormonism).  

 

Do I think Jesuits were behind it?  They very well could have been. The violence that Islam shows towards those who don't accept it is similar to the violence that Jesuits practice(d) on those who didn't accept Catholicism.  

 

I honestly think that Islam is the Whore of Babylon, rather than the RCC. I think that the child is going to outgrow and dominate the parent...

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Many people believe that Islam is the Whore of Babylon, HC.  This could be true, as the RCC has created a monster - so to speak.  An Orthodox Jew told me that the name Allah Al'Lah means "the curse."  Also, many people believe Bismallah is 666 - the Anti-Christ.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basmala

Personally, I think there will be two Babylons.  One will be a "religious Babylon" - the RCC and the other one will be an "Economic Babylon" - the USA.

Dr. James Beller has done a deep study on this and he has told me that Muslims will be patsies for the coming religious government which will come to power in the Great Tribulation.

BTW, have you read Dr. Beller's book, "The Coming Destruction of the Baptist People?"

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Many people believe that Islam is the Whore of Babylon, HC.  This could be true, as the RCC has created a monster - so to speak.  An Orthodox Jew told me that the name Allah Al'Lah means "the curse."  Also, many people believe Bismallah is 666 - the Anti-Christ.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basmala

Personally, I think there will be two Babylons.  One will be a "religious Babylon" - the RCC and the other one will be an "Economic Babylon" - the USA.

Dr. James Beller has done a deep study on this and he has told me that Muslims will be patsies for the coming religious government which will come to power in the Great Tribulation.

BTW, have you read Dr. Beller's book, "The Coming Destruction of the Baptist People?"

I think the US is economic Babylon, too, and that it will be destroyed. 

 

FWIW - I don't think the anti-Christ is going to be a religious leader. I believe he will be a political leader.  The false prophet will be the religious part of the unholy trinity that is going to be existent.  In Islam, political leaders are also religious, but I don't think they will be combined in one person during the time of the one world government.  JMO.

 

The one-world religion will have to encompass every belief, which the RCC is notorious for doing. But!!  There cannot be an emphasis on Jesus Christ during that time, so Islam is the perfect solution: Jesus was a prophet, not the Son of God.  

 

Yes, I've read that book. It's a good one, and one every Christian should read!

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I think the US is economic Babylon, too, and that it will be destroyed. 

 

FWIW - I don't think the anti-Christ is going to be a religious leader. I believe he will be a political leader.  The false prophet will be the religious part of the unholy trinity that is going to be existent.  In Islam, political leaders are also religious, but I don't think they will be combined in one person during the time of the one world government.  JMO.

 

The one-world religion will have to encompass every belief, which the RCC is notorious for doing. But!!  There cannot be an emphasis on Jesus Christ during that time, so Islam is the perfect solution: Jesus was a prophet, not the Son of God.  

 

Yes, I've read that book. It's a good one, and one every Christian should read!

 

Yes!  America is never mentioned in the Bible.  There is truth to it being "Economic Babylon" and yes, it will be destroyed.

I can agree with that about the Anti-Christ.  He will also have knowledge of all world religions.  Interesting about Islam.  I will have to look into that more.  They do have guillotines set up in places across the USA.  I believe that the RCC and Islam will be combined in this respect.  I have also seen black helicopters in the sky, when we visited Marietta, OH along with tanks.  It makes me wonder.  

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Here is the latest book I have read on Islam and it's origins.  I would recommend it to anyone who is really interested in the origins of Islam and it's growth into the monster the ideology that it is today. 

The main question one must pose when discussing Islam is did a person named Mohammad ever exist and if not how did the Koran and the Hadiths come about.  Why is it that people can doubt that Jesus or God exist but have no doubt about Mohammad's existence. 

From the Amazon page:

    "In the thoroughly researched What the Modern Martyr Should Know: Seventy-two Grapes and Not a Single Virgin, The New Picture of Islam, scholar Norbert G. Pressburg reveals the facts and fictions surrounding Islam, even as he shows how far astray Islam has wandered from its original purpose. Islam became known commonly during the 1973 oil crisis, and later when terrorist acts began to be done in the name of Islam. More disturbingly, these brutal acts of violence were celebrated as the beginning of a global jihad. It was no wonder that many people began to view this religion with alarm and suspicion. Pressburg uses latest researches to show how the Qur’an was misinterpreted through history by those in power, and for their own nefarious needs. Over the centuries errors, mistakes and forgeries have changed the original content, the real message of this holy book has been subverted. Many people know that terrorists expect to be greeted by virgins in Paradise when they die, but Pressburg shows that a truer translation says nothing about virgins at all. He also points out that the supposed admonition for women to wear veils is not God’s word at all, but the private opinion of a later interpreter. By getting as close as possible to the original texts and examining the languages and the times in which they were written, scientists have uncovered a new picture of this complex religion. What the Modern Martyr Should Know serves to provide readers with up-to-the-minute knowledge on historical Islam, findings which readers will be surprised to discover look nothing like the traditional image we have known. Entertainingly written and thoughtful, and thoroughly researched, What the Modern Martyr Should Know reveals a complete new picture of the origins of Islam and of what is really know about the Prophet Muhamad. This bold, wise book can help anyone understand more about the past, the present and possibly the future of Islam."

 

It costs 22 bucks but it is worth it. 

http://www.amazon.com/What-Modern-Martyr-Should-Know/dp/1468129031

 

God bless,

Larry

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I understand that Jews learned commerce when they were captive in Babylon.  They left an agricultural and husbandry culture and learned commercial trade using currency while in captivity.  In this respect they have excelled in every part of the world to which they have migrated during the diaspora.  When they are "regathered" from every part of the earth to Israel (Ezek 37), they will become a major economic power following fulfillment of Psalm 83.

 

Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel

Behold, Oh my people, I will open your graves and

cause you to come up out of your graves (heathen nations)

and bring you into the land of Israel.  Ezek 37:11a-12

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