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This lady's dog tore her up pretty bad but she keeps going back for more........

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2549112/Owner-needed-emergency-surgery-dog-attacks-insists-fault.html

 

Too many appear to be more sympathetic to dogs than people...

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/animals-and-us/201311/what-do-people-care-more-about-animal-abuse-or-child-abuse

 

They disregard the safety of people, make excuses for animals. and here's some of the carnage that results.........

http://www.dogsbite.org/

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I think there's a ban on one or two breeds and a law that some must be muzzled in public. I can't quite remember, Heartstrings, but in the 1990s there were several cases in a row of children being mauled in public by dogs and consequently some new laws were brought in. 

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Boy, don't get me started on the subject of Pit Bulls.  I will tell you my own personal experience.  I had a pit bull when I was young married man.  The dog was an inside dog, treated extremely well, never fed table scraps, and was one of the kindest and gentlest dogs I have owned. UNTIL...One day our 3 year old toddler was walking through the living room with a beef hotdog wiener in his hand, and being as clumsy as any toddler, dropped it on the floor.  Our dog seemed to feel that anything dropped to the ground by default was automatically his, and when my son reached down immediately to pick up his dropped food, his hand was savagely attacked by our dog.  It was a miracle that we were able to save his hand with no permanent effects other than same wicked looking scars. I know that it is in the nature of all dogs and breeds to be defensive over their food and to growl when someone approaches their dish when eating, but extreme violence is so close to the surface of a Pit Bulls thought process through breeding that it is far to easy to trigger them into uncontrollable action.  Needless to say, we had the dog immediately destroyed.  I fully support the banning of Pit Bulls.  

 

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This lady's dog tore her up pretty bad but she keeps going back for more........

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2549112/Owner-needed-emergency-surgery-dog-attacks-insists-fault.html

 

Too many appear to be more sympathetic to dogs than people...

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/animals-and-us/201311/what-do-people-care-more-about-animal-abuse-or-child-abuse

 

They disregard the safety of people, make excuses for animals. and here's some of the carnage that results.........

http://www.dogsbite.org/

 

 

its the tattoo fault...   :coffee2:

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My son had a big brindled bulldog mix which rode in his truck all the time. One Sunday afternoon the pastor's son came home to play with our youngest son and as soon and as he exited the car and headed for the front steps of our home, that dog but him in the abdomen. I had that dog destroyed immediately too. People come before animals at my house.

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Yes sir, I regard the life of my beasts....over 100 of them at present count 70 sheep 3 horses, a donkey, 4 turkeys, 5 dogs, 13 Koi fish, 5 goldfish, a bunny and a "sheep kitty" and I'm quite attached to some of them.  They are fed and cared for every day and most are very tame, except the ram. But if one of my animals is a danger to people it is gone. God put's people before animals and I do too.

 

Exodus 21

28 If an ox gore a man or a woman, that they die: then the ox shall be surely stoned, and his flesh shall not be eaten; but the owner of the ox shall be quit.

29 But if the ox were wont to push with his horn in time past, and it hath been testified to his owner, and he hath not kept him in, but that he hath killed a man or a woman; the ox shall be stoned, and his owner also shall be put to death.

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Yes sir, I regard the life of my beasts....over 100 of them at present count 70 sheep 3 horses, a donkey, 4 turkeys, 5 dogs, 13 Koi fish, 5 goldfish, a bunny and a "sheep kitty" and I'm quite attached to some of them.  They are fed and cared for every day and most are very tame, except the ram. But if one of my animals is a danger to people it is gone. God put's people before animals and I do too.

 

Exodus 21

28 If an ox gore a man or a woman, that they die: then the ox shall be surely stoned, and his flesh shall not be eaten; but the owner of the ox shall be quit.

29 But if the ox were wont to push with his horn in time past, and it hath been testified to his owner, and he hath not kept him in, but that he hath killed a man or a woman; the ox shall be stoned, and his owner also shall be put to death.

 

Amen, amen, and again amen.  Well done, Heartstrings.

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I have to confess, my shepherd's staff or rod isn't just for 'fending off wolves'; they can command respect from an aggressive sheep too.  I have a breeding ram (in my avatar) which I do not trust , but I keep him in a pasture by himself with the 4 turkeys. The tom turkey, which I also keep at bay with a stick, is the most aggressive critter on the farm and, at feeding time, the ram slams him when he gets in his feed (But he deserves it). Nobody but me enters that pasture and they cannot escape, dig out, or climb over and wander at will like dogs often do..

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Yes sir, I regard the life of my beasts....over 100 of them at present count 70 sheep 3 horses, a donkey, 4 turkeys, 5 dogs, 13 Koi fish, 5 goldfish, a bunny and a "sheep kitty" and I'm quite attached to some of them.  They are fed and cared for every day and most are very tame, except the ram. But if one of my animals is a danger to people it is gone. God put's people before animals and I do too.

 

Exodus 21

28 If an ox gore a man or a woman, that they die: then the ox shall be surely stoned, and his flesh shall not be eaten; but the owner of the ox shall be quit.

29 But if the ox were wont to push with his horn in time past, and it hath been testified to his owner, and he hath not kept him in, but that he hath killed a man or a woman; the ox shall be stoned, and his owner also shall be put to death.

Good, do you also stone your disobedient children also?

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Interesting isn't it?
Criticise with Old Testament, then criticise for using Old Testament.......

 

I was going to point that out...LOL.

 

Proverbs 12:10

 

 

Jeffrey,

 

Do you SERIOUSLY think that Proverbs 12:10 (and the meaning behind it) has anything to do with killing a dangerous pet...or were you merely trying to stir something up?

 

I can post a verse out of context to counter the verse that you posted out of context...

 

Proverbs 9:1-2
1   Wisdom hath builded her house, she hath hewn out her seven pillars:
2   She hath killed her beasts; she hath mingled her wine; she hath also furnished her table.
 
See...it says right there that it's wise to kill your beasts.
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I was going to point that out...LOL.

 

 

 

Jeffrey,

 

Do you SERIOUSLY think that Proverbs 12:10 (and the meaning behind it) has anything to do with killing a dangerous pet...or were you merely trying to stir something up?

 

I can post a verse out of context to counter the verse that you posted out of context...

 

Proverbs 9:1-2
1   Wisdom hath builded her house, she hath hewn out her seven pillars:
2   She hath killed her beasts; she hath mingled her wine; she hath also furnished her table.
 
See...it says right there that it's wise to kill your beasts.

 

actually my posting in Proverbs was intended for the OP,  

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Proverbs 9:1-2

1   Wisdom hath builded her house, she hath hewn out her seven pillars:
2   She hath killed her beasts; she hath mingled her wine; she hath also furnished her table.
 
See...it says right there that it's wise to kill your beasts.

For food, absolutely!!!   I like my steak medium well

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I know my parents thought more of their dog and cats than me when I was a teen. I had a bad allergy to the pets that caused me to have severe asthma attacks but I was told they would never get rid of the pets even though they knew this.

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 I grew up on a farm we had horses and I was the one that took care of them most of the time,the mares were gentle but the stallions could be very aggressive I was kicked ,bit, and stomped every time I had to wash and brush them and elderly friend taught me how handle them with the use of a rod,so heartstrings I understand what you mean brother.we had a lot of chickens that ran loose and some of the hens could get mean,I had one on my head a time or two .wo' what could a turkey do' that would hurt. I love animals but they cannot be compared as equal nor set above human life.

 

 

Pitbulls were bread for dog fighting and were never meant to be a family dog , in my state drug dealers use them to attack and to distract the police in drugs raids, the state passed a law that if the dog were to hinder or attack the officer to prevent the arrest of the drug dealer the officer has the the right to shoot the dog. another reason this dog should be outlawed.

 

When God cast Adam out of the garden of Eden he put fear in the animal toward man and this fear will remain until God reconciles the animals just as He will reconcile his children and the earth after the second coming of Jesus Christ our lord.   

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I care about my pets, but I don't equate them with people. If the unthinkable happened and my dog were to ever attack and maul/kill someone, I would immediately take her to the vet myself to have her euthanized. 

 

Romans 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. 

I do think people worship their pets, they place the pet over other humans, including themselves, and over God. As mentioned earlier, the woman with the dangerous dog that keeps trying to kill her is one example. I read an article a while back about a group that tries to save dogs that have mauled and even killed people. It's called the Lexus Project. Here's an example: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2545414/Dog-mauled-death-1-year-old-boy-life-spared-Nevada-judge-finds-new-home-nearly-two-years-fatal-attack.html  The dog is pictured, in matching bumblebee costumes, with the little boy it killed.  Jeremiah Eskew-Shahan has no value in the eyes of the people who love dogs more than people. 

 

Here are other examples of people I think practice pet worship, these are articles from a dog site I'm a part of. I rarely read the magazine side of this site anymore because of ridiculous articles like these: 

http://www.dogster.com/lifestyle/would-you-tether-dog-unsupervised

http://www.dogster.com/lifestyle/dog-health-care-live-outside

http://www.dogster.com/lifestyle/8-ways-get-your-dog-stolen

 

Again, I care about my pets. I care about animals in general, and think we should be good stewards of God's creation, including the animals He created, and especially for the ones placed in our care. 

 

As for the "all pets go to Heaven" bit, I believe there will be animals in Heaven. :hide:  Now, whether they will be the animals that exist there now, or have existed on earth prior, or new ones created for the New Heaven and New Earth, I don't know. I'll find out when I get there. Heaven's a beautiful place, so of course there will be rabbits.  :Bolt:

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Li Bai Jia I just read the story about Jeremiah Eskew-Shahan, and it reminds me of how lawless America has become when the courts give into a small group of people that clearly has views that human life means nothing to them, Quote'' there's nothing vicious about the attack'' lexus projects Richard Rosenthn stated to the Las Vegas times, how can someone make such a statement when they were not present to see the horror of a one year old child begin mauled to death by 120 lb. dog. all that I know to do for these people is pray' pray'and pray

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Years ago, I shot and killed a doberman pinscher.... My brother's dog. The reason? It was a threat to our neighbor's livestock. I was keeping the dog for my brother at the time. The dog could not be kept in an eight foot kennel. She always managed to get out. When she did, she would chase our neighbor's cattle. I finally got tired of it and put her down.

No regrets.

She had previously bitten a child in the town that my brother lived in. He brought her to me, hoping he could persuade the law that she had run off.

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of course to read on to find out that Richard Rosenthn is a lawyer makes one wonder ? if one was dog bit would he take the case to sue ?or defend the dog. 

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I had a man shoot my dog break into my home steal what he wanted and burn my home down ' I know who he was but could I not prove it until years later so he never got caught. but I have forgiven him. 

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Sadly, many people in the USA will save their dog in a burning house over a human being.  I saw an interview that talked about this over a month or so ago.  Visit Facebook for the numerous pictures of cats, and dogs.  It is ridiculous.  I laugh at the NSA monitoring Facebook, as they will find more kitty cat pictures and dog pictures than anything else.  Many people believe they are truly better companions than human beings.  "Dogs' are a mans best friend"... mentality.  

I met a Syrian American girl several months ago.  She came to the States when she was 12.  She is in her 30's now.  She couldn't believe that a whole isle in a grocery store was devoted to pets.  In her native country, dogs live outside and earn their keep.  I have also heard missionaries from other countries say the same thing.  Never have they seen pet stores like we have in the U.S.

I have two dogs, but they are just that, dogs.  I grew up with dogs, and they were a means of protection in my family.  My  husband, who never grew up with a family pet, treats them more like children.  

If one or both of my dogs becomes aggressive, to the point, of biting someone, I will have him put down.

And, to the OP's question.  No, I don't believe that Fluffy will be in heaven.  

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One of my neighbors had a big male chow which kept coming onto our property. One afternoon it attacked and mauled our female beagle but I happened to be outside installing vinyl siding and ran it off. She had chunks ripped our of her rear and thighs and probably would have been killed if I hadn't stopped it. A preacher, in our church, also lived next door to this same neighbor and said that the owner of the dog would "sic" him on them as they walked down their driveway.  We had warned the neighbors about the dog and they would not keep him off our property. We had called the sheriff's department and they would do nothing but say "work it out with your neighbor". The last straw was the day it threatened my 8 year-old son on our own front porch. The next time it came and I was home working up on my roof, I climbed down off the roof, went in the house, took my high powered rifle and "put it down".

 

The same neighbor then trespassed on my property and took a swing at me, threatened me, proving his hostile nature. He then turned around and bought another male chow, same color and everything only shortly thereafter his wife gave birth to twin boys and very soon after that....he got rid of that chow himself. 

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