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My thoughts are, if we are not honoring God when we celebrate His birth on December 25th, whether by prayer or by special services, because it is actually a pagan day , then it is equally wrong for us to worship God any day of the year since all the months on our calendars and the days of the week were all named after pagan gods.

As Christians, we should have the freedom to worship any day of the year, regardless of scorn or ridicule.  Doesn't matter if it is Christmas, Easter, Thanksgiving, or even Halloween. 

Our attitude of worship should be a daily attitude, every day of the year.

 

*edited to remove inappropriate word.

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My thoughts are, if we are not honoring God when we celebrate His birth on December 25th, whether by prayer or by special services, because it is actually a pagan day , then it is equally wrong for us to worship God any day of the year since all the months on our calendars and the days of the week were all named after pagan gods.

As Christians, we should have the freedom to worship any day of the year, regardless of scorn or ridicule.  Doesn't matter if it is Christmas, Easter, Thanksgiving, or even Halloween. 

Our attitude of worship should be a daily attitude, every day of the year.

 

*edited to remove inappropriate word.

Thats just silly, because the pagans have nothing to do with the days themselves-some knucklehead just gave them names, which mean nothing.

 

But now consider, say, the seventh-day Sabbath. It was given by God to Israel at Sinai, so it is completely proper for them to celebrate it on the seventh day. As a believer, I could celebrate it, if I chose, and it would be fine, though I have no right to demand it of anyone else, nor does anyone else have the right to denamnd it of me-it was given by God, and I believe that this is an example of what Rom 14 is saying about honoring days or not honoring days.

 

The same would be said about the various feasts. Their origin is of God. Each day of the week is of origin of God, regardless of what someone calls them, the days themselves are given and created by God.

 

Now, when we deal with Christmas, as a feast day, a holiday, whatever you wish to call it, we know it was specifically designed by Rome, whom we should reject, based upon pagan rituals, which we should reject, the day chosen by Rome and attached to specific pagan celebration, for the express purpose of inticing those same pagans to join with them. No other reason. This is a reindeer of a different color from just the days of the week.  This is exactly what the Lord told His people NOT to do, when he told them NOT to learn the ways of the heathen. Mannaseh was judged because he went after the ways of the heathen. israel went into captivity for following the ways of the heathen. nadab and Abihu were prOBably partially killed for following after the ways of the heathen. Yet now, under grace, we suppose its alright for us to follow after the ways of the heathen, as long as we pretend it is Jesus' birthday?

 

The Lord Jesus gave us a regular celebration that we are to do as a remembrance, a celebration perhaps, of Jesus' death, which we call the Lord's Supper. It is commanded for us to do-as far as how often we do it, the Bible doesn't specify, just, "as often as ye do it," so there seems to be some liberty in this. yet it is given as a remembrance of His death, and of course, we remember at the same His resurrection, through which we are redeemed. We also know WHEN He died and thus, when He was resurrected. The Bible tells us. So it is appropriate we celebrate it. In fact, we do so each First Day, in remembrance of His resurrection the first day, and His meeting with His disciples the same day. BUt history tells us that no true believer in Christ ever celebrated Christmas until some 150-160 years ago. before that real Christians were known for NOT celebrating it.

 

But, as we hear time and again, history means nothing to most Christians any more. We don't know our history, we don't care, it doesn't matter anymore. A sad affair.

 

Jer 6:16  "Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein."  This is the attitude. No one cares about the old paths-what believers did for 1800 years no longer matters-most are completely unaware because they care so little. We can't ask for the old paths, because we don't know the old paths. Many today are like Israel who say, "We will not walk therein."

 

*Edit: on reading this, I notice I sound kind of angry-I'm not and I apologize if I come across as such. Its not meant to be personal to anyone,  not SFIC or anyone else. Please don't take is as such.

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Christmas is not a christian festival placed at a pagan time to attract pagans to Christianity, which is what we try to do still today.  Bat a pagan festival with a christian veneer to attract Christians to paganism.

In some respects, it's really not that much different than how many churches today attempt to draw many in by having a band on the stage (it's not really just a preaching platform anymore if a band is playing), or by hosting Superbowl parties, or having movie nights on their big screens.

 

There is much conforming to the world in order to attract the world. That doesn't make it Christian.

 

One of the area churches took Yoga and called it "Christian Yoga" and now dozens of women flock there for "Christian Yoga classes". I've seen video clips from these classes and simply placing the word "Christian" in front of Yoga didn't make Yoga Christian.

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I must admit, I read the full article on santa claus and it was quite an eye opener! I packed up my decorative santas I had. They will no longer be a part of my Christmas decorations. Santa is one thing but what about the rest of the holiday? It is about being with family, enjoying family and some gift giving. In our family, gift giving is very limited. I only buy for my daughter and my mother, and 3 neices. That's all. So I can say I'm not all caught up in the commericialism of it either. I have a short list and limited budget. But it's also a special time of year when my mom takes her grandaughters to see the Nutcracker ballet. We also have a Christmas baking cookies day. And a large dinner on Christmas for extended family to visit. These are the things I don't have a prOBlem with yet. 

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As we read in Romans, there are many "holidays" that some attend to and others do not. The context of determining the right or wrong of participating, or not, in these comes down to our heart and our honesty.

 

For instance, many claim they celebrate Thanksgiving Day as a day to honour the Lord and give Him thanks for many things over the past year, yet the reality for many is their celebration centers around food and/or family, sports, playing games, and these days even shopping, rather than God and giving thanks.

 

We should consider the same when it comes to Christmas and other holidays as well. Are we being honest in where our heart as we celebrate those days? Are we spending Christmas Day in awe of God become flesh, marveling that God would do this for us, rejoicing Christ came to save us, celebrating the birth of the Messiah...or are we spending most of our time with matters involving gifts, food or other things?

 

Are we lifting up the day to the Lord when we gather with our lost family on a holiday (pick one) and are in the midst of their cursing, smoking, drinking, foul and off colour stories, immodest dress, course jesting and the like?

 

These are things we should ask ourselves, and also ask God to search our hearts concerning these matters.

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I must admit, I read the full article on santa claus and it was quite an eye opener! I packed up my decorative santas I had. They will no longer be a part of my Christmas decorations. Santa is one thing but what about the rest of the holiday? It is about being with family, enjoying family and some gift giving. In our family, gift giving is very limited. I only buy for my daughter and my mother, and 3 neices. That's all. So I can say I'm not all caught up in the commericialism of it either. I have a short list and limited budget. But it's also a special time of year when my mom takes her grandaughters to see the Nutcracker ballet. We also have a Christmas baking cookies day. And a large dinner on Christmas for extended family to visit. These are the things I don't have a prOBlem with yet. 

And of course, there's nothing wrong with spending special time with family-as we get older and family spreads, sometimes it these days only that we can all get together-if it happens to be such a day as Christmas, then so be it-we can be family and eat and fellowship, and not have to do it in the name of christmas, even if others are.

 

I get together with family, but I don't do gifts generally, unless its a Bible or something such as to be beneficial, even for the youngsters. BUt even getting simple gifts for family as a gesture of love and affection is fine, so long as it isn't the REASON for the season, which in reality, we all know is the case with Christmas for many.

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And the carols?  Most have some unbiblical teaching in them.

We Three Kings? and of course, any that mention them, like The First Noel. Some are okay, though I would add them into the other hymns throughout the year, just like hymns about the resurrection of Jesus, we don't save just for resurrection day, we sing them through the year-so why not sing the good ones throughout the year since that we don't know a date for.

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