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Excellent point, HC.  I believe this happens to all of us.  I know I experience it.  My unsaved Roman Catholic brother and sister use sarcasm with me.

"Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.  12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad:  for great is your reward in heaven:  for so they persecuted the prophets which were before you." ~ Matthew 5:11-12   

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I also bring it up because I have been one of those who was always on "preach mode."  Someone said to me "I know you're a Christian, you made your point, I get it already."  I learned a lesson.  Sometimes we have to be reminded that it's the Holy Spirit that illuminates the mind, stirs the heart and move the unbeliever to belief.  Sometimes we're trying to do the Holy Spirit's job and not allow the Holy Spirit to do the job through us.

Truth, here, too!

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And yet Jesus was a friend to sinners, was He worldly?

Love the sinner but hate the sin.

 

Really, God provides those opportunities in the world, but not of the world to witness and He waters as He will.  Discernment will tell us when to wipe the dust off our feet and move on:

 

Matthew 10:14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.

 

(notice this verse does not say wipe the mud off from wallowing in sin to witness to another- it is wiping dust off the feet) 

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So what does it mean to be gay?  I hear all the time being gay is sinful and wrong.  But what does that mean?  One of my best friends in high school struggled with same-sex attraction.  He never acted on it in high school.  Does that mean he was not gay?  

 

In college he "came out" and accepted his same sex attraction.  He still did not have sex.  Was he gay then?

 

Later he committed to live his life with his partner.  They had sexual conduct.  Was he gay only at that point?

These are honest questions.  We often gloss over what it means to be gay.  

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I don't remember the name of the pastor, but a new Christian once asked him about how to deal with having lost friends and the pastor told him not to worry about it. The pastor told the young man if he was living for Christ his lost friends would soon not want to be around him.

 

When the young man, who had been saved while away in the military, returned to his home and his lost friends showed up he found out just how right that pastor was. His lost friends didn't want to hear about his Saviour and Lord, they didn't want to hear the Gospel, they didn't want to hear about his life with Christ, and since he was no longer willing to do the sinful things they all used to do for fun, his lost friends were soon nowhere to be found.

 

One who is truly following Christ can't help but shine the light of Christ for others to see. They can't help but talk about their Saviour and Lord, they can't help but want to try and help those around them know Jesus, they can't help but share with them they are about to crash and need to change course.

 

If one wants to hide their Christianity, if one wants to keep silent about Jesus and doesn't care enough about the lost folks around them to warn them of danger, and if a professing Christian is willing to hang out with the lost and act much like them, then sure, they may have several lost friends.

 

Those who do this should pay heed to Scripture and make their calling and election sure. Then they should look to Scripture and be reminded that worldly friendliness isn't love; that true love is sharing the Saviour with the lost and warning them of the dreadful fate of being without Christ.

 

Our words, actions and lives are to be lived in such a way as to example Christ, drawing the lost to salvation and warning them of the danger they are in.

 

TODAY is the day of salvation. None of us knows when our time will be up. We don't know if ourselves or a lost person we know may die tonight; or if Christ may return before we meet again. Dare we delay in sharing Christ with the lost? Dare we put off warning the lost of what awaits them if they remain lost?

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Then how do you give them the Gospel then? I mean, Jesus was attacked by the Pharisees for hanging out with " sinners"!! Jesus was involved with them to give them the Good News, but yet the Pharisees could show now compassion for the lost, the very same people He would hang on a cross for!!

 

Jesus didn't "hang out" with sinners.  He supped with them to share the gospel and rebuke them for their sin.

 

The poor evangelicals have been mislead into believing that they have to be friends with someone before they can witness to them.  Just another one of satan's lies to keep people from preaching the Good News.

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Jesus didn't "hang out" with sinners.  He supped with them to share the gospel and rebuke them for their sin.

 

The poor evangelicals have been mislead into believing that they have to be friends with someone before they can witness to them.  Just another one of satan's lies to keep people from preaching the Good News.

Good point. Even though the new evangelicals on this board may not like it, This evening after work I will go out on the streets and pass out gospel tracts to strangers and will talk to them about the Lord. Since the new evangelicals won't do that, we as true believers should.

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Good point. Even though the new evangelicals on this board may not like it, This evening after work I will go out on the streets and pass out gospel tracts to strangers and will talk to them about the Lord. Since the new evangelicals won't do that, we as true believers should.

How one chooses or is led to share the gospel is between that person and God.  Because someone doesn't go door to door or hand out tracts doesn't mean they are not sharing or are not "true believers."  This is going to be harsh...but is that how you spoke to your brother?

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No. Implore them to leave their vile life and if they refuse, tell your children to leave them with one final warning..."You are a hell bound walking dead carcass." The wages of sin IS death." Not "will be" death nor "soon to be" death...

 

The wages of sin "IS DEATH". You're already dead. Spiritually dead. A walking dead corpse waiting for the rotten flesh to expire then you will be a dead soul on their way to hell!

 

Sodomites repent or sodomites walk dead till they are dead. Christian have nothing to do with the filthy workers of iniquity!

Edited by Daniel Rush

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Jesus didn't "hang out" with sinners.  He supped with them to share the gospel and rebuke them for their sin.

 

The poor evangelicals have been mislead into believing that they have to be friends with someone before they can witness to them.  Just another one of satan's lies to keep people from preaching the Good News.

Can you show me where He rebuked them?

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As honebee pointed out, "I have yet to find a homosexual who would like to be my friend."

Years ago, my son and my ex-husband were going to a homosexual to get their hair cut.  I arrived to pick up my son one day in this man's shop.  After I left, the man asked my ex husband if I was a Born Again Christian.  No words were exchanged between me and this man, except "hello."  My ex husband told the man, "yes" and also asked him how he could tell.  The homosexual said, I can spot a Born Again Christian a mile away.

 

Since I have been saved, the only friends I have are other born again Christians.  In fact, two professing "friends" say they are born again, but still have a foot in the world.  I haven't spoken to either of them in over two years.  Therefore, the only friends I have are friends who are IFB.  I lost all contact with my unsaved friends when I trusted Jesus Christ as Personal Saviour.  They decided they didn't want to hang around me anymore.  That's alright with me, b/c I know my friends are women in my IFB church and surrounding IFB churches.  And, I also know that the closest friend I have, besides my husband, is the Lord Jesus Christ.    

Edited by candlelight

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As honebee pointed out, "I have yet to find a homosexual who would like to be my friend."
Years ago, my son and my ex-husband were going to a homosexual to get their hair cut. I arrived to pick up my son one day in this man's shop. After I left, the man asked my ex husband if I was a Born Again Christian. No words were exchanged between me and this man, except "hello." My ex husband told the man, "yes" and also asked him how he could tell. The homosexual said, I can spot a Born Again Christian a mile away.

Since I have been saved, the only friends I have are other born again Christians. In fact, two professing "friends" say they are born again, but still have a foot in the world. I haven't spoken to either of them in over two years. Therefore, the only friends I have are friends who are IFB. I lost all contact with my unsaved friends when I trusted Jesus Christ as Personal Saviour. They decided they didn't want to hang around me anymore. That's alright with me, b/c I know my friends are women in my IFB church and surrounding IFB churches. And, I also know that the closest friend I have, besides my husband, is the Lord Jesus Christ.

Exactly....the lost/unsaved friends will usually stop being friends with one who is truly saved. Same for family. Of my family only my sister claims to be saved (she attends a Lutheran church), but one sure would not know it by her fruit...she is still deeply steeped in the world and sin. My brothers stopped communicating with me years ago after I was saved. My parents are communicating with me but are not saved, but have seen my life changed and my sisters hypocricy and ask questions from time to time.

Like you Candle, my family is comprised of Jesus, my wife and my church family. Edited by 1John2:15-17

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My husband told me long ago, that I would loose all my worldly friends.  He told me it is a part of being a follower of Jesus Christ.  I am happy to say that my husband has a large family, all of whom are saved.  He is the oldest of nine children.  They are included in my church family, as well.

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My husband told me long ago, that I would loose all my worldly friends.  He told me it is a part of being a follower of Jesus Christ.  I am happy to say that my husband has a large family, all of whom are saved.  He is the oldest of nine children.  They are included in my church family, as well.


That's wonderful that his family is all saved.

I just found it amazing how I didn't have to do anything to "lose" lost friends, rather the quit associating with me when I began to follow Jesus and the Bible. I no longer have the desire (and also despise) for things such as alcohol, profanity, sinful music, and so on. I thank The Lord for all of that.

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That's wonderful that his family is all saved.

I just found it amazing how I didn't have to do anything to "lose" lost friends, rather the quit associating with me when I began to follow Jesus and the Bible. I no longer have the desire (and also despise) for things such as alcohol, profanity, sinful music, and so on. I thank The Lord for all of that.

 

I should say that some of my in-laws grandchildren aren't saved.  However, they are young.  

Same with me, Bob.  They know what I stand for and chose not to associate with me.  I thank the Lord, as well, b/c I don't want anything to do with their lifestyles.  I have planted seeds, and I leave the rest to God.

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GS, you are missing out on something.  The unsaved who were once my friends, want nothing to do with me b/c I am a Born Again Christian.  

I'm not referring to you but all the hypocritical, judgmental, so-called Christians on this forum who like to turn their noses up at people and think all are heretics who don't agree with them.  Think like me, act like me, dress like me, talk like me.  Sounds like a cult.  Whoever gets offended, well then the shoe must fit.

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Luke 18:9-14


That's not it at all. Unsaved family and friends quit associating with me. I have made attempts at witnessing when the opportunity arose.
We are also called to be separate. One who is saved should not put him/herself intentionally into a situation where his/her testimony could be questioned, nor should he/she do, say or act as the worldly sinful world. One who truly loves Jesus will want to honor him and strive not to sin (although none of us are perfect) and strive to do ones best to glorify Him.

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I'm not referring to you but all the hypocritical, judgmental, so-called Christians on this forum who like to turn their noses up at people and think all are heretics who don't agree with them.  Think like me, act like me, dress like me, talk like me.  Sounds like a cult.  Whoever gets offended, well then the shoe must fit.

 

I don't believe that if a person is not an IFB and does not hold to the KJV is a "heretic."  I believe that a person can be saved, using any Bible.  In fact, my MIL was saved when my husband was one years old, while she was holding him in a rocking chair.  A Pentacostal woman had been witnessing to her for some time.  She prayed to Jesus and He saved her right then and there.  I was saved, after many Christians had witnessed to me, in the hospital.  I trusted Jesus Christ as my Personal Saviour, after an Epileptic seizure.  I wanted to get in touch with my son.  He was with one of my lost friends.  It was that day that she decided she didn't want to associate with me anymore.  My son was staying the night at her house, as my ex husband let him.  She is a smoker, and I told her that I didn't want my child to be around a chain smoker anymore.  I never smoked, but for some reason the Holy Spirit convicted me to speak with her about it.  Thankfully, my unsaved ex husband complied with my request and picked him up right away.  He doesn't smoke, either.
 

I chose to be a member of an IFB church b/c I love the teaching.  I have studied Baptist history and believe the Lord led me to my church.  I also chose the KJV, b/c it is the only Bible that has ever made any sense to me.  I have read Modern Versions and I don't understand them.  

Edited by candlelight

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