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      Psalms 119:1-8                                         Sep. 5 - Oct. 2, 2019
      1 ALEPH. Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD.
      2 Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, and that seek him with the whole heart.
      3 They also do no iniquity: they walk in his ways.
      4 Thou hast commanded us to keep thy precepts diligently.
      5 O that my ways were directed to keep thy statutes!
      6 Then shall I not be ashamed, when I have respect unto all thy commandments.
      7 I will praise thee with uprightness of heart, when I shall have learned thy righteous judgments.
      8 I will keep thy statutes: O forsake me not utterly.
      The following verse stood out to me...
      5 O that my ways were directed to keep thy statutes!
      At first glance it seemed to me this person’s soul is poured out with intense desire to have God’s direction in keeping His Word.
      I made a small wood fire in our backyard for my granddaughter, Julia, since she would be staying overnight with us. My wife and Julia stayed outside at the fire for about half an hour. Then, I found myself alone to watch the fire die out on a particularly lovely evening. So I took my verse from above and began to repeat it for memorization. As I repeated the verse, I tried to contemplate the words and apply them to what I was seeing around me. 
      The moon and stars were out now peering through the scattered clouds above.
      [Genesis 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. Genesis 1:17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, Genesis 1:18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.]
      Thought 1         
      The moon has stayed his course since the day God created him, also the stars, obeying the statutes directed by God from the first day they were created. Can you imagine God’s direction to the Moon and stars, “moon you will have a path through the sky above the earth, stars you will occupy the firmament above the moon and be clearly visible in the cloudless night sky.”
      Then, the trees, grass, even the air we breathe obey the statues God gave them from the beginning. None of these creations have souls, none have hearts, none have intelligence, but they all observe God’s statutes, His instructions for their limited time on earth.
      Thought 2
      What if we were like the moon, stars, trees, grass, or the other creations which have no soul? We would be directed to keep God’s statutes without choosing to keep them. This is not the image of God, there would be no dominion over other creatures, or over the earth. We would not be capable of experiencing the joy and peace of learning the love of God
      Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
      Philippians 4:7 And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
      Thought 3 (October 2, 2019)
      Is the psalmist pleading God to force God’s statutes to become the man’s ways? No, he is speaking of his own failure in keeping God’s statutes and his desire to keep them, very much like Paul in Romans 7:14-25.
      God doesn’t work through force to turn men from their ways that they would desire His statutes or desire God Himself. Men must reject (repent) put aside his own ways and voluntarily seek God and His statutes.

If All The Republicans Have Is Rubio And Christie...

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Well, that's not all "they" have, but the media is trying to disgrace Christie (he's actually already a disgrace, but I digress) because they are claiming he is the only one who can beat Hillary.  There are others - men who are Christians and who follow the Constitution.  We'll see what future days bring.

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Well, that's not all "they" have, but the media is trying to disgrace Christie (he's actually already a disgrace, but I digress) because they are claiming he is the only one who can beat Hillary.  There are others - men who are Christians and who follow the Constitution.  We'll see what future days bring.

When these others? Once they are are asked, about where do they stand on the gay marriage,marijuana, and abortions again. They will fall apart.  

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When these others? Once they are are asked, about where do they stand on the gay marriage,marijuana, and abortions again. They will fall apart.  

Not all of them would. Rand Paul. Ted Cruz. Mike Lee. Don't know if they will run, but they know how to stand firm.  They've proven that.

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Not all of them would. Rand Paul. Ted Cruz. Mike Lee. Don't know if they will run, but they know how to stand firm.  They've proven that.

They may stand for some truth, but the truth is our country don't want to here it. We Christians, do want the best for all. But the majority don't want moral issues to stand first.Money in my pocket, means you have my vote, just like in Venezuela. The poor, the not educated, will keep their president in office.  .

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They may stand for some truth, but the truth is our country don't want to here it. We Christians, do want the best for all. But the majority don't want moral issues to stand first.Money in my pocket, means you have my vote, just like in Venezuela. The poor, the not educated, will keep their president in office.  .

For a variety of reasons, I don't believe it's the majority in this country.  But that's another topic altogether. I do agree that the uneducated (as well as the apathetic) will, together with voter fraud, keep the corrupt in office.

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Again, I ask, why are we afraid? Didn't Jesus establish His church and didn't he say that the gates of hell would not defeat it?
I think a lot of this American patriotism is idolatry. Yes, we can be thankful for living here, but we are called to a higher purpose, evangelizing, loving our neighbors, helping the poor/sick. These things mean more to God rather than worrying that they are allowing gay marriage,(which will happen, no matter how many protest). We are not here to change laws! Did Jesus do that? Were not the disciples looking/expecting Jesus to establish His kingdom after all?

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<shrugs> God gave us this country and He expects us to be good stewards of what He's given us.  If Christians want to allow the liberties and freedoms (for the express purpose of being the Christians God wants us to be) He's given us in this country to slip out of their hands, well, that's what so many are doing.   But, hey, it sure sounds spiritual to say Jesus didn't do it, so we shouldn't.  Except that Jesus didn't get on the Internet. Or drive a car. Or, or, or....He and His disciples also lived in an empire, where the law of the land was at the whim of the king.  However, God saw fit to grant to us the privilege of deciding what laws we would have, who we would entrust the making of those laws to, etc. Being a Christian does not automatically mean we are to not participate in some way (whatever way God would lay on the heart, and that would include prayer, voting, even running for office in order to serve, etc) to ensure our liberties do not fade away.

 

I know - that isn't popular anymore.  It's more popular to say that we are only called to be soulwinners (yes, we should do that, and all that Jeffrey wrote).  But that just isn't true.  We are called to live in the world, even though we are not to be of it.  Participating in the governmental process in a federal constitutional republic such as ours (well, what it should be) does not make us of the world, but in it.  Being of it is being consumed by the world's philosophies and practices.  Government is not one of those, because God ordained government . And in America, He allowed us to be the government.  Sadly, we have let down that role.  Badly.  And we aren't the soulwinners we should be, either.  That is obvious from the gross sin that is being accepted all around us.  Our salt has just about lost its savor, even as we sit and say we are only to do just so much and no more...

 

(and I believe God would have us stand behind anti-gay-marriage amendments (on a state level, not federal)...after all, He did command that they be killed in the OT.  Passing an amendment is a much kinder, gentler way of dealing with the issue, because we are under grace, not law...and would still give Christians a chance to witness to the lost gay person...etc)

 

One last edit...being concerned about the country God gave us is not idolatry (although I agree that it can become such if allowed), nor is it necessarily fear.  It is taking care of what God has given.  

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Again, I ask, why are we afraid? Didn't Jesus establish His church and didn't he say that the gates of hell would not defeat it?
I think a lot of this American patriotism is idolatry. Yes, we can be thankful for living here, but we are called to a higher purpose, evangelizing, loving our neighbors, helping the poor/sick. These things mean more to God rather than worrying that they are allowing gay marriage,(which will happen, no matter how many protest). We are not here to change laws! Did Jesus do that? Were not the disciples looking/expecting Jesus to establish His kingdom after all?

Not me.

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<shrugs> God gave us this country and He expects us to be good stewards of what He's given us.  If Christians want to allow the liberties and freedoms (for the express purpose of being the Christians God wants us to be) He's given us in this country to slip out of their hands, well, that's what so many are doing.   But, hey, it sure sounds spiritual to say Jesus didn't do it, so we shouldn't. (...)  Being a Christian does not automatically mean we are to not participate in some way (whatever way God would lay on the heart, and that would include prayer, voting, even running for office in order to serve, etc) to ensure our liberties do not fade away.
 
I know - that isn't popular anymore.  It's more popular to say that we are only called to be soulwinners (yes, we should do that, and all that Jeffrey wrote).  But that just isn't true.  We are called to live in the world, even though we are not to be of it.  Participating in the governmental process in a federal constitutional republic such as ours (well, what it should be) does not make us of the world, but in it.  Being of it is being consumed by the world's philosophies and practices.  Government is not one of those, because God ordained government . And in America, He allowed us to be the government.


Amen. Well said.

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<shrugs> God gave us this country and He expects us to be good stewards of what He's given us.  If Christians want to allow the liberties and freedoms (for the express purpose of being the Christians God wants us to be) He's given us in this country to slip out of their hands, well, that's what so many are doing.   But, hey, it sure sounds spiritual to say Jesus didn't do it, so we shouldn't.  Except that Jesus didn't get on the Internet. Or drive a car. Or, or, or....He and His disciples also lived in an empire, where the law of the land was at the whim of the king.  However, God saw fit to grant to us the privilege of deciding what laws we would have, who we would entrust the making of those laws to, etc. Being a Christian does not automatically mean we are to not participate in some way (whatever way God would lay on the heart, and that would include prayer, voting, even running for office in order to serve, etc) to ensure our liberties do not fade away.

 

I know - that isn't popular anymore.  It's more popular to say that we are only called to be soulwinners (yes, we should do that, and all that Jeffrey wrote).  But that just isn't true.  We are called to live in the world, even though we are not to be of it.  Participating in the governmental process in a federal constitutional republic such as ours (well, what it should be) does not make us of the world, but in it.  Being of it is being consumed by the world's philosophies and practices.  Government is not one of those, because God ordained government . And in America, He allowed us to be the government.  Sadly, we have let down that role.  Badly.  And we aren't the soulwinners we should be, either.  That is obvious from the gross sin that is being accepted all around us.  Our salt has just about lost its savor, even as we sit and say we are only to do just so much and no more...

 

(and I believe God would have us stand behind anti-gay-marriage amendments (on a state level, not federal)...after all, He did command that they be killed in the OT.  Passing an amendment is a much kinder, gentler way of dealing with the issue, because we are under grace, not law...and would still give Christians a chance to witness to the lost gay person...etc)

 

One last edit...being concerned about the country God gave us is not idolatry (although I agree that it can become such if allowed), nor is it necessarily fear.  It is taking care of what God has given.  

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One last edit...being concerned about the country God gave us is not idolatry (although I agree that it can become such if allowed), nor is it necessarily fear.  It is taking care of what God has given.  

Did Jesus command us to change laws, erect nation building or was he more concerned with individuals? Our calling is to make disciples and i do not think that imposing our beliefs through laws are the way to do it. Nowhere in the NT are we to start a theocracy in America, or wherever we live.

Saw this on another site this morning, a quote from CS Lewis

CS Lewis Wrote:

Before leaving the question of divorce, I should like to distinguish two things which are very often confused. The conception of marriage is one: the other is the different question – how far Christians, if they are voters or Members of Parliament, ought to try to force their views of marriage on the rest of the community by embodying them in the divorce laws. A great many people seem to think that if you are a Christian yourself you should try to make divorce difficult for every one. I do not think that. At least I know I should be very angry if the Mahommedans tried to prevent the rest of us from drinking wine.
 

My own view is that the Churches should frankly recognise that the majority of the British people are not Christians and, therefore, cannot be expected to live Christian lives. There ought to be two distinct kinds of marriage: one governed by the State with rules enforced on all citizens, the other governed by the Church with rules enforced by her on her own members. The distinction ought to be quite sharp, so that a man knows which couples are married in a Christian sense and which are not

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God also didn't call us to be bricklayers, and lawyers, and schoolteachers. ...

The other things of life are to be done with the Great Commission in mind, but life goes on and we must live it.
When these other pursuits - whatever they may be - begin to affect our love for the Lord, they become wrong, but many are not wrong in themselves. ( there are plenty of things that we are to avoid of course).
Even getting upset because others are interested in politics can draw us away from loving the Lord, just as being wrapped up in politics can draw us away.

I personally think we need more real saved people involved in politics - but they need to be focussed on the Lord first and foremost.

Be the best politician they can be for the Lord.
Of course that kind of person rarely lasts long in the corrupt world of politics.........

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Our country was not founded as a theocracy, nor do laws that abide by scripture make it so. Our founding documents were written for a moral and religious people, but were written in such a way that would, if followed, protect people from an overreaching government...and this would include religious liberty (which, by the way was encouraged by the Baptists of the day).

Back when the people of this country were more moral - even the lost - they knew certain things were wrong. State laws regarding things like sodomy, abortion, incest, pedophilia, etc. were a protection to the individual of that state and were approved by most people. Again, even the lost. There was no outcry that anyone was trying to force others to abide by the Bible. It was common knowledge that a moral society was a flourishing society.

Enter the idea that there should be no constraints...and chaos has grown. Sadly, churches have contributed to this by changing with the culture, rather than changing the culture.

Yes, we are to win souls and disciple people. But our responsibility does not end there. Sadly, too many people have bought the lie that it does. And we can see all around us the results. Less Christianity, more world. Less liberty, more chains.

Good laws keep crime in check. Good citizens make sure good laws are passed....and in this country, keep the lawmakers in check.

We aren't doing our job - as soulwinners or as citizens.

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The other things of life are to be done with the Great Commission in mind, but life goes on and we must live it.
When these other pursuits - whatever they may be - begin to affect our love for the Lord, they become wrong, but many are not wrong in themselves. ( there are plenty of things that we are to avoid of course).
Even getting upset because others are interested in politics can draw us away from loving the Lord, just as being wrapped up in politics can draw us away.

I personally think we need more real saved people involved in politics - but they need to be focussed on the Lord first and foremost.

Be the best politician they can be for the Lord.
Of course that kind of person rarely lasts long in the corrupt world of politics.........

But you know they will still govern unsaved people right?

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My point is that politics is just as relevant for Christians as any other part of life - but as with every other part of life, it must be done to God's glory.

Those who say politics is evil and should be avoided by Christians are just wrong.
But involvement (as with every aspect of life) should be in a Godly fashion.

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