pew Forum: 2/3 Of American’S Believe In Evolution – (No Wonder The Country Is Going Downhill So Fast)

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LTRP Note: As Lighthouse Trails has stated in times past, evolution is part of what we call the “death” religion and the “new” spirituality. The article below by Pew Forum on Religion, a liberal, religious think-tank, is posted here for informational and research purposes. See below the article for a 10-minute preview clip of Roger Oakland’s […]

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[Ukulelemike]

Well a survey of 1900 people is not indicative of how all Americans view anything. Any survey can be slanted for a particular outcome, particulalrly with such a small amount of people, but making the calls in the right areas, where you are more likely to get certain answers than others.

 

You could get a survey that shows 85% of Americans approve of homosexual marriage by doing all your sampling from San Francisco.

[Bro K]

Well a survey of 1900 people is not indicative of how all Americans view anything. Any survey can be slanted for a particular outcome, particulalrly with such a small amount of people, but making the calls in the right areas, where you are more likely to get certain answers than others.

 

You could get a survey that shows 85% of Americans approve of homosexual marriage by doing all your sampling from San Francisco.

:goodpost:  :amen: :amen: :amen: 

[John81]

I imagine among many in America if the question was simply if they believe in evolution and good many would say yes. Now, if there were more specific questions asked regarding evolution, it's likely those numbers would drop and most often drop dramatically.

 

Sadly, most Americans don't think too much.

[777]

Ugggh, a Pew poll - that outfit is notoriously unreliable, and look how they phrased the question: "“humans and other living things have evolved over time" v. "“humans and other living things have existed in their present form since the beginning of time.” Even allowing Spanish-only answers, they can only crack sixty percent, and they say it hasn't changed since 2009 for them. Other polls show support for the ToE at much lower numbers.

[Alimantado]

Well a survey of 1900 people is not indicative of how all Americans view anything. Any survey can be slanted for a particular outcome, particulalrly with such a small amount of people, but making the calls in the right areas, where you are more likely to get certain answers than others.

 

You could get a survey that shows 85% of Americans approve of homosexual marriage by doing all your sampling from San Francisco.

 

The fact that bias can be introduced into a survey is a no-brainer and not per se a reason to deny a particular survey's finding, unless you are arguing that surveying in principle is so flawed that every survey ever conducted is wrong.

[Galations 2:20]

Until a person's belief system is founded upon the first chapter of Genesis a person will be open to look to man and to what man says even though the Truth is clearly innate in our hearts and nature as well but many choose to suppress it.

 

Romans 1:18-19 (KJV) For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. 

 

Surveys, and news feeds are definitely man's reasoning and can be construed to achieve wanted results.

[Alimantado]

Surveys, and news feeds are definitely man's reasoning and can be construed to achieve wanted results.

 

Like I said before, pointing out the obvious truth that surveys can be biased doesn't speak to whether any particular survey is biased and to what extent, unless the argument being made is that all the survey results that have ever been published have been wrong.

[John81]

Like I said before, pointing out the obvious truth that surveys can be biased doesn't speak to whether any particular survey is biased and to what extent, unless the argument being made is that all the survey results that have ever been published have been wrong.

That's true. The only way to really have a better undrestanding of the data collected by a survey, one needs to know the exact questions asked, exactly as they were asked; who was asked, where they were asked, why they were asked. Those are the main two points, but of course other details could be a factor as well.

 

Some do go to great lengths in an attempt to conduct an unbiased survey/poll, but many don't. Many are either sloppy in their methods or outright biased in the whole matter.

 

It's like the polls which say 80% of Americans are Christians. On its face that sounds like America is full of Christians, but when one looks at the fact anyone with any remote connection to Christians are counted in this, including Catholics and often Mormons and various cults, it becomes clear the poll results actually mean little.

 

A few years ago some polling group tried real hard to come up with a good poll to find out just how many biblically born again Christians are in America. Their results are much better than most polls, but as hard as they tried, they kept finding that many who are not biblically born again were still answering the poll in a way which would count them as such.

 

For instance, the term "born again" is no longer a term exclusive to those who are actually biblically born again. Many Catholics, and others, now use that same term but they don't mean what the Bible means by that term. The pollsters tried several different ways of asking questions to get to just who actually is a biblically born again Christian and never could come up with a 100% method. That said, they got much closer than any others and their efforts proved the flaws in the results of other polls.

 

Plus, as I think someone mentioned, polling a couple thousand people and then declaring the results represent 300 million people across the country is in no way valid. That's why it's important to know who was asked (along with who, how many) and how and why those were chosen.

[Galations 2:20]

Like I said before, pointing out the obvious truth that surveys can be biased doesn't speak to whether any particular survey is biased and to what extent, unless the argument being made is that all the survey results that have ever been published have been wrong.

OK,  ALL surveys are man's reasoning and biased and based upon faulty foundation.  It is surveying man's opinion.

 

God's Word is infallible and can be trusted always proved true and correct.  It is truth and foundation which is solid and true.  

[Alimantado]

Interesting stuff, thanks John. Tricky one that. You couldn't even ask people whether they agreed with any of the confessions of faith or the creeds as there aren't any that, for example, both Calvinists and non-Calvinists would agree on. Maybe the Nicene creed would work.

[Alimantado]

OK,  ALL surveys are man's reasoning and biased and based upon faulty foundation.  It is surveying man's opinion.

 

God's Word is infallible and can be trusted always proved true and correct.  It is truth and foundation which is solid and true.  

 

Well they're just completely different things, aren't they? If you want to gauge the number or quantity of something, for example how many people in the USA believe in evolution, you can't turn to a verse in the Bible to get that figure. As floored as man's reasoning is, we all rely on it for some stuff.

[ASongOfDegrees]

2 out of 3? My guess it would be higher than that. I don't know any people outside of IFB or some other smaller denominations that believe in creation. My guess it's closer to 90% now.