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Folk's we are loosing the battle with this gay marriages and movement. I do not know how can only five percent of gays, can control our country. This is Satan main tool to destroy the US. There is noting we can do about this, or is there?  All politicians will give up, just to get a seat in the office. They will simply say, let each State decide, which this they are doing now. Once they, the gays movement control all 50 States, the churches will be attacked next.

 

You heard it from The Glory Land first.  :(  Signs of End Time, for this In God We Trust Country

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There is nothing to get worked up about, you know God wins in the end right? I think it's not the churches responsibility to get into politics, I don't remember that part in the Great Commission. We should more concerned about making disciples rather than "changing society". That is a Charles Finney plan that has never worked because it does not involve Christ! The lost world needs the Gospel, not more laws and regulations that try and govern behavior and does nothing to change the heart.

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The battle is spiritual, as was pointed out, Satan is using this for his purposes. The only way to effectively fight against this is how God told us to. Through living for Christ, spreading the Gospel, making disciples and being in much prayer.

 

Our duty is to obey God and trust Him with the outcome.

 

And yes, in the end, God's will shall be done!

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There will not be many that will stand with God on this issue. Not even many that call their self Christians, for most people including many Christians feels that if you love someone you never tell them something is sin that they enjoy doing & that makes them happy.

 

There's already republicans that have joined that bandwagon & most Christians who side with the republicans do not realize that the republican party is only Worldly Conservative & not Christian Conservative nor even Christian Liberal.

 

Besides this country is run by politicians, politics is all about compromising.

 

Following Jesus is not about compromising, its about denying our self, bearing our cross, & truly following Him.

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There will not be many that will stand with God on this issue. Not even many that call their self Christians, for most people including many Christians feels that if you love someone you never tell them something is sin that they enjoy doing & that makes them happy.

 

 

Are you talking about gluttony? Thats a sin, but yet we seem to put up with that. Matter of fact, in my old IFB church, gluttony was a punchline to a lot of jokes, God calls that sinful behavior. I know homosexuality is a favorite hobby horse with a lot of Baptist churches, but there are many sins we seem to overlook and point our fingers at gays and scream justice and we have fornicators in our own assemblies and seem to keep it on the hush hush and sweep it under the rug and claim, it's under the blood! ( that actually happened by they way)

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Mr. Mojo Rison,

 

All these sins that you mentioned, will not bring our Country to it's knees. The gay moment will.

 

If I may ask, are you one of those Baptist that believe there is no need for soul winning, because those that are chosen are already called to salvation?

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What has God called us to do, what is the only means of bringing about truly positive change, how are hearts turned to righteousness and away from wickedness?

 

Is it doing nothing when we actually believe and trust God so we spend much time in sincere prayer before Him? Do we not believe the God we pray to can do what we ask? Do we believe our God won't hold true to His Word?

 

Does not only the Bible, but also our own history clearly show the power of the Gospel to not only change individuals, but entire societies and nations? Is our God's hand now shortened so there is no power in spreading the Gospel? Does making disciples no longer bring about even greater change?

 

Does God only work in certain nations or at certain times or when men have established certain laws? Did not Christianity grow, multiply and "turn the world upside down" right in the midst of the pagan Roman Empire among those worshiping false gods, engaging in and embracing homosexuality and others sexual perversions, where abortion and infanticide was acceptable and wickedness was rampant?

 

God calls us to obey Him and trust Him with the outcome.

 

Is God defeated because a State makes homosexual "marriage" legal? Not at all! If we believe the Word we should recognize that such is part of this fallen world and that wickedness will abound until the Lord returns to put an end to it.

 

In the meantime, He calls His people to engage in spiritual warfare, grow in Christ, spread the Gospel, make disciples, draw close to the Lord in prayer. If we do as He commands, we can trust that whatever happens, He is in control and His will shall be done.

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Churches have been attacked by Homosexuals, already, TGL.  Several years ago, a non denominational pastor, in my area, preached against sodomy from the pulpit of his church for a week.  After the last service, 3 homosexuals came into the church building the next day to find the pastor.  Instead, they found the custodian of the church, and beat him up badly, to the point he was in the hospital for a few days.  He spent part of his stay in the ICU.  While the pastor was extremely upset at what happened, he never recanted what he said from the pulpit.  He still preaches against sodomy to this day.

When my church had a building, several years ago, 2 homosexuals came in during the month of June.  Evidently, June is the "Gay Pride" month.  My pastor, and my father in law (the church deacon) recognized what was going on.  Instead of the usual Wednesday night prayer service and Bible study, my pastor took the one man aside and my FIL took the other man to witness to them on what the Bible says on the sin of Homosexuality.  They never returned.

I agree with the posts above.  We have no control over what is already happening.  As born again believers, we must preach the gospel to all creatures.  Jesus commands us to do this in "The Great Commission."  We must stay in God's Word daily, go soul winning as a church, not get involved with politics on this subject, and most importantly, pray.

I don't know why you chose Florida or Texas.  I don't live anywhere near those states and my state is filled with Homosexuals.  Several years ago, a nearby suburb was rated #2 in Homosexuals living in the city.  San Franciso was #1.

The Unitarian Universalists, in my hometown, fly the rainbow flag across the front of their building.  They also have a sign that says, "Marriage Equality."  The flag has been torn down and ripped up several times, and everytime they get people to donate a new one.  It is very sad to see God's rainbow used this way.
  

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Mr. Mojo Rison,

 

All these sins that you mentioned, will not bring our Country to it's knees. The gay moment will.

 

If I may ask, are you one of those Baptist that believe there is no need for soul winning, because those that are chosen are already called to salvation?

Matthew 28:18: And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. [19] Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: [20] Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

 

Note: Edited by mods for KJV content. Please use only KJV when quoting Scripture on this board, as per Board rules.

Edited by Salyan

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What has God called us to do, what is the only means of bringing about truly positive change, how are hearts turned to righteousness and away from wickedness?

 

Is it doing nothing when we actually believe and trust God so we spend much time in sincere prayer before Him? Do we not believe the God we pray to can do what we ask? Do we believe our God won't hold true to His Word?

 

Does not only the Bible, but also our own history clearly show the power of the Gospel to not only change individuals, but entire societies and nations? Is our God's hand now shortened so there is no power in spreading the Gospel? Does making disciples no longer bring about even greater change?

 

Does God only work in certain nations or at certain times or when men have established certain laws? Did not Christianity grow, multiply and "turn the world upside down" right in the midst of the pagan Roman Empire among those worshiping false gods, engaging in and embracing homosexuality and others sexual perversions, where abortion and infanticide was acceptable and wickedness was rampant?

 

God calls us to obey Him and trust Him with the outcome.

 

Is God defeated because a State makes homosexual "marriage" legal? Not at all! If we believe the Word we should recognize that such is part of this fallen world and that wickedness will abound until the Lord returns to put an end to it.

 

In the meantime, He calls His people to engage in spiritual warfare, grow in Christ, spread the Gospel, make disciples, draw close to the Lord in prayer. If we do as He commands, we can trust that whatever happens, He is in control and His will shall be done.

^^This  +10

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He also said, arise and go, destroy those wicked people. I'm not saying this to the gays.

Matthew 5:43: Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
[44] But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; [45] That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. [46] For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? [47] And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? [48] Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

 

Note: Edited by mods for KJV content.

 

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I am of the New, but I also believe in the Old. These two the Old and New are = for me.

You can't be under both Covenants. That was one of the problems in the early church, especially with the Judiaizers who thought to be a true Christian one had to abide by the laws of the Old Covenant.

 

The Old Covenant was fulfilled by Christ who established the New Covenant which we are to live in accord with.

 

The OT gives us great historical information, points to Christ, informs us the OT is temporary, shows the soveriegnty of God, makes it clear that man can't save himself, that even an entire nation of people can't save themselves, teaches us that man's ways never work, etc.

 

The Christian is under the New Covenant, not the Old Covenant. No nation, and not the church, took the place of Israel.

 

We are commanded to live according to the New Covenant, which is a much higher calling than the Old, and which calls us to totally surrender ourselves to Christ. We are called to obey the Lord, as we are clearly commanded in the New Covenant, and trust God with the results.

 

God's ways are not our ways. Which is why we must surrender to Him and obey His ways in His strength and through His wisdom.

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You can't be under both Covenants. That was one of the problems in the early church, especially with the Judiaizers who thought to be a true Christian one had to abide by the laws of the Old Covenant.

The Old Covenant was fulfilled by Christ who established the New Covenant which we are to live in accord with.

The OT gives us great historical information, points to Christ, informs us the OT is temporary, shows the soveriegnty of God, makes it clear that man can't save himself, that even an entire nation of people can't save themselves, teaches us that man's ways never work, etc.

The Christian is under the New Covenant, not the Old Covenant. No nation, and not the church, took the place of Israel.

We are commanded to live according to the New Covenant, which is a much higher calling than the Old, and which calls us to totally surrender ourselves to Christ. We are called to obey the Lord, as we are clearly commanded in the New Covenant, and trust God with the results.

God's ways are not our ways. Which is why we must surrender to Him and obey His ways in His strength and through His wisdom.




I agree, but the old points us to the new, if you have the old and the new, rightly devided, you have Gods complete Word.

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Yes, one has God's complete Word but we are instructed to live in accord with the New.

 

Much of the OT shows us the reason the Old Covenant was temporary and God always planned to do away with the Old and establish the New. So indeed, the Old points us to the New, and in so doing directs us to leave the Old behind and walk in obedience to the New.

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In many cases the OT lays the foundation and principles upon which the New Covenant is based.

It gives the spirit which is still relevant even when the letter is replaced.

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This "He also said, arise and go, destroy those wicked people. I'm not saying this to the gays." was brought up in the midst of the discussion which is mainly what I was trying to address.

 

Yes, God instructed ancient Israel to destroy "certain" wicked people (sometimes it's forgot that this extermination order was only for certain specific peoples, not everyone); and yes God instruced ancient Israel to put to death homosexuals, witches and such.

 

That was specific to ancient Israel. Christians have been commanded to love these (and all) wicked sinners and to share the Gospel with them. We are to love them and pray for them, not seek to destroy them.

 

There are many Christians, and they are by all means not only IFBs, who prefer to promote and advocate OT ways over our NT calling. In fact, many Christians in the "Religious Right", who are very politically active, push more for OT methods than NT (and we know most of the politically active Religious Right are not IFBs).

 

What people need is the Gospel of Jesus Christ and it's a real shame in this "Christian nation" that an ever growing percentage of the population has never heard the Gospel rightly proclaimed and they have a very distorted view of our God; if they have any real view of Him at all.

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