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Every atheist I have ever known has wore shoes.  Better get rid of your shoes or you might be mistaken for an atheist.

Every buddhist monk is bald.  Better never let that hair fall our or you might be mistaken for a buddhist monk.

Every JW goes grocery shopping, better stop going to the store.   Don't want to imitate the JW's.

The pink ribbon does not represent Komen.  It represents breast cancer awareness.

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1Co 11:14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?   Yes, there's always been men who had long hair, men who do as they wish & listen not to

That's fine - you go ahead and add works to salvation. As for me, I will stick with God when he says that salvation is by grace through faith and not of works. You can not know the hearts of other

This isn't directed to you, SFIC, but its a general comment:   Always wondered why we need to wear a ribbon to show we are 'aware' of something. Who isn't aware of breast cancer, seriously?  Breast

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Every atheist I have ever known has wore shoes.  Better get rid of your shoes or you might be mistaken for an atheist.

Every buddhist monk is bald.  Better never let that hair fall our or you might be mistaken for a buddhist monk.

Every JW goes grocery shopping, better stop going to the store.   Don't want to imitate the JW's.

The pink ribbon does not represent Komen.  It represents breast cancer awareness.

 

There you go again. And this will be my whole reply.

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I was trying to make a point, but I reckon you did not get it.

No matter what we do, where we go, there will be lost people doing the same.

What sets us apart is not necessarily what we wear, but what is in our hearts.

If one is going to take a stand against ribbons that represent breast cancer awareness because a company that promotes abortion wears the same color, then me need to be consistent and take a stand against wearing any colors of any kind since evil people use those colors too.

We need to stop shopping in stores since we don't know that the money we spend on groceries isn't used to buy alcohol from a beer vendor.  Or stop buying gas for our cars since those same gas stations have alcohol that they sell inside and the money we give for gas may be used to pay for that alcohol vendor.

Better live a monastic life.

No, instead of being so critical over a Christian's choice to wear a ribbon to represent his or her concern for breast cancer, spend time praying for the crooked pastors around the world.  Pray for God's intervention in Churches where Christians are living in oppression and bondage to rules and regulations that God never endorsed.

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No matter what we do, where we go, there will be lost people doing the same.

What sets us apart is not necessarily what we wear, but what is in our hearts.

If one is going to take a stand against ribbons that represent breast cancer awareness because a company that promotes abortion wears the same color, then me need to be consistent and take a stand against wearing any colors of any kind since evil people use those colors too.

We need to stop shopping in stores since we don't know that the money we spend on groceries isn't used to buy alcohol from a beer vendor.  Or stop buying gas for our cars since those same gas stations have alcohol that they sell inside and the money we give for gas may be used to pay for that alcohol vendor.

Better live a monastic life.

No, instead of being so critical over a Christian's choice to wear a ribbon to represent his or her concern for breast cancer, spend time praying for the crooked pastors around the world.  Pray for God's intervention in Churches where Christians are living in oppression and bondage to rules and regulations that God never endorsed.

 

I gather you think it's fine to participate in Halloween too?

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I was trying to make a point, but I reckon you did not get it.

No matter what we do, where we go, there will be lost people doing the same.

What sets us apart is not necessarily what we wear, but what is in our hearts.

If one is going to take a stand against ribbons that represent breast cancer awareness because a company that promotes abortion wears the same color, then me need to be consistent and take a stand against wearing any colors of any kind since evil people use those colors too.

We need to stop shopping in stores since we don't know that the money we spend on groceries isn't used to buy alcohol from a beer vendor.  Or stop buying gas for our cars since those same gas stations have alcohol that they sell inside and the money we give for gas may be used to pay for that alcohol vendor.

Better live a monastic life.

No, instead of being so critical over a Christian's choice to wear a ribbon to represent his or her concern for breast cancer, spend time praying for the crooked pastors around the world.  Pray for God's intervention in Churches where Christians are living in oppression and bondage to rules and regulations that God never endorsed.

 

What is in your heart should show up fully on the outside, for instants, long hair on man is a shame just as the inspired Word of God tells us.

 

Ro 14:7 For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.
Ro 14:8 For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.
Ro 14:9 For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.

 

The majority of people will never set down& talk with you, they will only see you, & their impression will be what they see, & if we are not obeying Christ in all ways we are not being a good witness for our Lord.

 

1Co 11:14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?

 

1Sa 16:7 But the LORD said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the LORD seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart

 

Only what's in the heart is only an excuse, an excuse to do as you please, yet it does not pass the test.

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Most of what I posted above was to show the foolishness of saying it is wrong to wear a pink ribbon to show support for breast cancer awareness.

It was to show if one is going to say wearing pink identifies one as pro abortion, then shaving ones head identifies that one with buddhists, etc.

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We're to avoid all appearance of evil.  What would people think of you if you today if you drove around with a rainbow on your visor?  Or how about calling your church, Rainbow Baptist with a big colorful rainbow on the sign?  Who might show up?

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Every atheist I have ever known has wore shoes.  Better get rid of your shoes or you might be mistaken for an atheist.

Every buddhist monk is bald.  Better never let that hair fall our or you might be mistaken for a buddhist monk.

Every JW goes grocery shopping, better stop going to the store.   Don't want to imitate the JW's.

The pink ribbon does not represent Komen.  It represents breast cancer awareness.

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This isn't directed to you, SFIC, but its a general comment:

 

Always wondered why we need to wear a ribbon to show we are 'aware' of something. Who isn't aware of breast cancer, seriously?  Breast cancer fund-raising, as is most cancer fund-raising or anything else, are all big scams. I ask you, why, after decades of research and multiplied-millions of dollars, is cancer still primarily treated by the cut/burn/poison method? The same thing done for decades?  Why are alternative methods, which boast great success, still outlawed and scoffed at? Simply, because there is huge money in 'research', but really little in cures.

 

How much money would a drug company make if they had a cure for something? I mean, a real cure: take this, you'll be cured? Not much, compared to what they make with 'take two of these for the rest of your life and you won't feel as bad', does.

 

Okay, sorry, went off topic for a moment. Back to the subject at hand!

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The purpose of the pink ribbon is clearly defined.  Everyone knows it stands for breast cancer awareness.

Wearing a pink ribbon does not send out messages of evil.  But the sodomite rainbow emblem does.

And this is another shame-the very first token of God's covenant with man, the rainbow, why did we let the perverts take that? It was meant to remind us of the promise that God would never again destroy the earth with a flood, yet now most who see it only see perversion. I would rename my church the Rainbow Baptist Church, and then when the homosexuals show up thinking they have a place to be safely perverse, they would get an earful of the gospel of Jesus Christ and know what true love is.

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Most of what I posted above was to show the foolishness of saying it is wrong to wear a pink ribbon to show support for breast cancer awareness.

It was to show if one is going to say wearing pink identifies one as pro abortion, then shaving ones head identifies that one with buddhists, etc.

 

 

If like just a few weeks about they had a big event in our hose town that's about 6 miles from me. It was a fund raising event for the Komen organization, & they encouraged everyone to wear pink. I would not want to be identified with the Komen's who supports abortions, & I would not want to support in any manner an organization that supports abortions.

 

Do yo really believe Jesus would do anything to support such an organization? Of course he wouldn't.

 

Of, for a while they stopped supporting abortions, yet they found out no supporting abortions made their donations go down, so again, so they started supporting abortions once again & their donations went back up. The reason is we are out numbered, I refuse to follow the crowd, they're all gathered up at the broad wide gate & can't wait to get in.

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Okay, still :ot: ?  Let me begin.  We had a discussion with the brethren in my IFB church this year about something to this effect.  I can't remember exactly what it was about, however, it was about boycotting certain companies and events.  My FIL began by saying "I suppose we can only go to gas stations owned and operated by IFB's b/c all other gas stations are ungodly." *sarcasm*  Now, that would be difficult b/c I have no idea how long one would have to travel, in my area, to find such a station.  And, do any IFB's even own gas stations?  So, it appears that we are going to have to go to those stations owned and operated by Muslims and Hindus, who also sell lottery tickets, cigarettes and booze.  Also, the "mom and pop" restaurant in town, just found out that their youngest son is a sodomite.  Should we boycott their restaurant b/c we don't want to support junior, as he is 20 and living under mom and dad's roof?  What are we to do with our government?  Since 1973 with Roe v. Wade, we (as taxpayers) have been supporting abortion in this nation.  As ill as that makes me, and it does... what then?  I believe Jesus talks about that in scripture, a few times.  One of these times is in the Book of Matthew 22:18-22... "Is It Lawful to Pay Taxes?  "18 But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, Why tempt ye me, ye hypocrites?  19 Shew (show) me the tribute money, and they brought unto him a penny, 20 And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription?  21 They say unto him, Caesar's.  Then saith he unto them, Render (pay) therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.  22 When they had heard these words, they marveled, and left him and went their way." 


While the above scriptures pertain to government, I believe a lesson can be learned from these passages in other areas of concern and debate.  Why not share the word of God with those who are carnal, doing ungodly work in carnal organizations?  I make it my business, to go into town, find worldy events, pass out gospel tracks... and go may way.  When Christ told us to follow "The Great Commission"... He did not make this an option.  It is a commandment to those He calls His own.  I take my voice and gospel tracks to the gas station, to the grocery store, to the drug store, etc. and leave God's word with the unsaved.  Saturday, of last week, I planted just a small seed to a Hindu man (a Sheik) who most likely has never heard the word of God.  I thanked him and said, many blessings to you today.  He smiled, and said, the same to you. ma'am.  The word, blessings, is a good place to start before getting into the gospel.  I have used it many times before.  

Boycotting seems extreme to me.  The world is what it is.  "The world."  We are placed on this earth to be disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ.  That waiter, in the restaurant, with the earing in his nose, and the tatoos all over his body?  Christ died for him, too.  Someone shared the gospel with us.  Why not share it with organizations that are ungodly, instead of shunning them?  Pass out those books on John and Romans to the Susan Komen organization.  They need to know they are sinners heading towards a devil's hell.  Why not be the beacon of light to them, so that they can hopefully come to know Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Saviour?  Many of them don't likely know that Komen follows "Planned Parenthood".  Just as I, and many other Roman Catholics, had no idea of our religion, until God took us out of it.  The gospel shows us that.   

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Okay, still :ot: ?  Let me begin.  We had a discussion with the brethren in my IFB church this year about something to this effect.  I can't remember exactly what it was about, however, it was about boycotting certain companies and events.  My FIL began by saying "I suppose we can only go to gas stations owned and operated by IFB's b/c all other gas stations are ungodly." *sarcasm*  Now, that would be difficult b/c I have no idea how long one would have to travel, in my area, to find such a station.  And, do any IFB's even own gas stations?  So, it appears that we are going to have to go to those stations owned and operated by Muslims and Hindus, who also sell lottery tickets, cigarettes and booze.  Also, the "mom and pop" restaurant in town, just found out that their youngest son is a sodomite.  Should we boycott their restaurant b/c we don't want to support junior, as he is 20 and living under mom and dad's roof?  What are we to do with our government?  Since 1973 with Roe v. Wade, we (as taxpayers) have been supporting abortion in this nation.  As ill as that makes me, and it does... what then?  I believe Jesus talks about that in scripture, a few times.  One of these times is in the Book of Matthew 22:18-22... "Is It Lawful to Pay Taxes?  "18 But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, Why tempt ye me, ye hypocrites?  19 Shew (show) me the tribute money, and they brought unto him a penny, 20 And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription?  21 They say unto him, Caesar's.  Then saith he unto them, Render (pay) therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.  22 When they had heard these words, they marveled, and left him and went their way." 


While the above scriptures pertain to government, I believe a lesson can be learned from these passages in other areas of concern and debate.  Why not share the word of God with those who are carnal, doing ungodly work in carnal organizations?  I make it my business, to go into town, find worldy events, pass out gospel tracks... and go may way.  When Christ told us to follow "The Great Commission"... He did not make this an option.  It is a commandment to those He calls His own.  I take my voice and gospel tracks to the gas station, to the grocery store, to the drug store, etc. and leave God's word with the unsaved.  Saturday, of last week, I planted just a small seed to a Hindu man (a Sheik) who most likely has never heard the word of God.  I thanked him and said, many blessings to you today.  He smiled, and said, the same to you. ma'am.  The word, blessings, is a good place to start before getting into the gospel.  I have used it many times before.  

Boycotting seems extreme to me.  The world is what it is.  "The world."  We are placed on this earth to be disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ.  That waiter, in the restaurant, with the earing in his nose, and the tatoos all over his body?  Christ died for him, too.  Someone shared the gospel with us.  Why not share it with organizations that are ungodly, instead of shunning them?  Pass out those books on John and Romans to the Susan Komen organization.  They need to know they are sinners heading towards a devil's hell.  Why not be the beacon of light to them, so that they can hopefully come to know Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Saviour?  Many of them don't likely know that Komen follows "Planned Parenthood".  Just as I, and many other Roman Catholics, had no idea of our religion, until God took us out of it.  The gospel shows us that.   

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Hair length is not the main point of this passage of Scripture 1 Corinthians 11:3-15.  It is about gender roles (feminine and masculine), authority and submission.

 

Men should look like men, and women should look like women. God is not interested in, nor does He accept, “unisex.”

 

It matters how we present ourselves.

 

Women are to voluntarily place themselves under the authority of men in the church.

 

We should not reverse the God-ordained roles of men and women.

Our culture today does not use veils or head coverings to indicate submission to authority. However, the roles of men and women have not changed, but the way we symbolize those roles changes with the culture.

 

Rather than establish legalistic standards of hair length, we must remember that the real issue is our heart condition, our individual response to the authority of God, His ordained order, and our choice to walk in submission to that authority. Men and women have different, God-ordained roles, and part of that difference is shown by their hair. A man's hair should look masculine not effeminate. A woman's hair should look feminine not masculine.

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Hair length is not the main point of this passage of Scripture 1 Corinthians 11:3-15.  It is about gender roles (feminine and masculine), authority and submission.

 

Men should look like men, and women should look like women. God is not interested in, nor does He accept, “unisex.”

 

It matters how we present ourselves.

 

Women are to voluntarily place themselves under the authority of men in the church.

 

We should not reverse the God-ordained roles of men and women.

Our culture today does not use veils or head coverings to indicate submission to authority. However, the roles of men and women have not changed, but the way we symbolize those roles changes with the culture.

 

Rather than establish legalistic standards of hair length, we must remember that the real issue is our heart condition, our individual response to the authority of God, His ordained order, and our choice to walk in submission to that authority. Men and women have different, God-ordained roles, and part of that difference is shown by their hair. A man's hair should look masculine not effeminate. A woman's hair should look feminine not masculine.

I would totally agree with this except one point: that women are to voluntarily submit to men's authority in church.  I'm not sure if you meant that all women are to submit to all men or not, but that's kind of the way it reads to me. (no offense intended...just not clear on it)

 

I am only subject to one man: my husband.  In the church setting, I am subject to my pastor as long as it's in line with God's Word and my hubby is okay with it (like teaching a Sunday School class - if my pastor came and told me to do it, it would actually need to be okayed by my hubby...I don't go teach it just cuz the pastor told me to - SWIM?).  Too many women have done irreparableharm to their marriages by putting the leadership of the pastor above their husbands. 

 

My hubby has given me permission to work in Sunday School. So, I am to answer to the pastor who oversees the ministries in that area.  He (my hubby) has extended his authority to that point.  But if it came down to a choice between what my hubby says and the pastor says, I'd have to obey my hubby in order to be scriptural (now, please everyone - I'm not talking about choices to sin....).

 

One school I taught in had some real issues with the guys.  I found out why.  One of the male teachers was teaching them that they should feel rebellious inside when a woman teacher told them to do something.  Totally unscriptural.  And he was teaching them that the girls should be submissive to them or they wouldn't be good wives.  Again, totally unscriptural.  But that is what a lot of people think.  Any man can order any woman to do something and she is to do it. Totally unscriptural.  It's been taught like that for so long in so many churches, a lot of people don't really understand submission anymore. Couple that with feminism and we have a recipe for disaster!

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Lots of the posts are :ot: ASOD.  LOL 


Below is a commentary by Matthew Henry on his comment on the creation of Eve.



"If a man is the head, she [woman] is the crown, a crown to her husband, the crown of the visible creation.  The man was dust refined, but the woman was double-refined, one remove further from the earth. . . The woman was made of a rib out of the side of Adam; not made out of his head to rule over him, nor out of his feet to be trampled upon by him, but out of his side to be equal with him, under his arm to be protected, and near his heart to be beloved. " ~ Amen

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Lots of the posts are :ot: ASOD.  LOL 


Below is a commentary by Matthew Henry on his comment on the creation of Eve.


"If a man is the head, she [woman] is the crown, a crown to her husband, the crown of the visible creation.  The man was dust refined, but the woman was double-refined, one remove further from the earth. . . The woman was made of a rib out of the side of Adam; not made out of his head to rule over him, nor out of his feet to be trampled upon by him, but out of his side to be equal with him, under his arm to be protected, and near his heart to be beloved. " ~ Amen

 

Do you think in the eyes of God that the man & woman are equal? That all people are created equal?

 

1Ti 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
1Ti 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
1Ti 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
 
Plus to me the Bible teaches only men can be pastors, & only men can teach men, that is not teaching all of us are equal.
 
I know that our country says all people are born equal, yet to me the Bible never has taught that.
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No, I do not believe that brother.  Before my salvation, I didn't believe it, either.  The RCC does teach some Biblical things.  One of those is that a woman cannot preach, but she can teach.  That is taught at a very early age.  Also, my mom taught her daughters how to be good wives and mothers.  I am 3/4 Irish.  Culturally speaking, the Irish woman are like the Italian women.  Our husbands are head of the household.  I knew this growing up, as my mom taught through example.  Just prior to me going to the IFB church, a music teacher, at work, invited me to her Methodist church.  I was appauled that she said her pastor was a woman.  I was shocked, in fact.  She thought it would entice me to go to her church.  It was not the way I was taught, nor did it impress me one iota.  I knew it was wrong.  Joyce Meyers has never impressed me, with her liberated attitude.  What is she still preaching for, as she found out what God's word had to say on this topic, after she started making her money?  Actually, before my mom got saved, she watched Joyce Meyers one time and was offended by her role as "female pastor." 

I have always believed, before salvation, in moral teachings and values.  Both of my parents were/are "Old School"... raised in the Great Depression, the Greatest Generation.  The Bible showed me what was already installed in my brain and heart.  Joe is the head of my household, just as my dad was head of my childhood household and Joe's dad is head of his.  I am no "doormat" as I was an a very abusive first marriage, but even then, I was a submissive woman.  I have a few great books on a women being a man's helpmeet, as well.

The reason I posted this, is because it shows how a man loves his wife.  It is taken from a book I own called, "All the WOMEN of the Bible"... by Herbert Lockyer.  Two of my SIL's are graduates of the Bible college at Cleveland Baptist Church.  This book is part of the required reading for the course in Bible study.  It is a history of the women of the Bible, and what contributions to God's word, these women had.  It is hope for those women in abusive marriages, where their husband tramples on them.  While I believe in obedience to Joe, I cannot condone abuse.  Thankfully, I have never been abused by Joe, as I was in my first marriage.  Had I not left that highly abusive first marriage, most likely, I wouldn't be alive to type these words.  Praise the Lord for godly husbands! 

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Do you think in the eyes of God that the man & woman are equal? That all people are created equal?

 

1Ti 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
1Ti 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
1Ti 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
 
Plus to me the Bible teaches only men can be pastors, & only men can teach men, that is not teaching all of us are equal.
 
I know that our country says all people are born equal, yet to me the Bible never has taught that.

 

And it is this way of understanding scripture that causes so much radical rebellion and disobedience.

 

Its not a matter of 'equality' as human understand it. The Bible says that in Christ there is no Jew or Gentile, nor male or female.

 

Now I realize that in this world there IS male and female, because the Bible cleaqrly lays out rules of who can do what, but is it really a metter of equality?

 

The order is Father, Son, Man, Woman.  So let me ask, is Jesus the Son less than Jehovah the Father? Of course not, not in eternity, but in the necessity of order for this time, Jesus has accepted a position below the Father. So in the big scheme of things, the woman is no less than the man, but in this time, she is placed in a lower position in the order.

 

But this has nothing to do with equality-each perso is equally in need of salvation by Jesus Christ, each person is equally saved and in eternity, each person will be fuly equal.

 

And if we want to say that women are unequal because the Lord has disallowed them to do certain things yet, then man is certainly unequal because wehave been disallowed to do ne of the most important things in this life: to produce life-women have the babies, they supply the next generation-what a privilege! Yes men add to the process, but the woman does the most important part and without them, without that which the Lord designed them to do, there would be no human race. NO one for the man to teach and preach to, no family to be head of.

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Amen, Brother Ukelelemike.  One must also keep in mind that although Christ was God in the flesh he was also the son of man.  He was the first man, on earth, to treat women with full respect.  Our Lord and Saviour did that for women.  I wasn't until I walked into an IFB church that I was treated with respect.  In the RCC I was looked down upon, because of my divorce.  My IFB church embraced me with the same love and respect that the Lord embraces me with, daily.  I no longer felt like "the woman at the well"... b/c in actuality I was not.  The RCC made me feel this way. 

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Wow, this hair and covering stuff must be really important stuff to warrant 90 posts!

Someone just needs to go back to the title and alter it a little.  :D  There is a lot of good stuff on here!  The last few comments are really getting to the heart of the matter, though.  It is all about gender roles and submission to authority the way God has ordained it.  We either do it willingly the way it is intended or we fight it tooth and nail in the gray, and sometimes not-so-gray areas!

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No, I do not believe that brother.  Before my salvation, I didn't believe it, either.  The RCC does teach some Biblical things.  One of those is that a woman cannot preach, but she can teach.  That is taught at a very early age.  Also, my mom taught her daughters how to be good wives and mothers.  I am 3/4 Irish.  Culturally speaking, the Irish woman are like the Italian women.  Our husbands are head of the household.  I knew this growing up, as my mom taught through example.  Just prior to me going to the IFB church, a music teacher, at work, invited me to her Methodist church.  I was appauled that she said her pastor was a woman.  I was shocked, in fact.  She thought it would entice me to go to her church.  It was not the way I was taught, nor did it impress me one iota.  I knew it was wrong.  Joyce Meyers has never impressed me, with her liberated attitude.  What is she still preaching for, as she found out what God's word had to say on this topic, after she started making her money?  Actually, before my mom got saved, she watched Joyce Meyers one time and was offended by her role as "female pastor." 

I have always believed, before salvation, in moral teachings and values.  Both of my parents were/are "Old School"... raised in the Great Depression, the Greatest Generation.  The Bible showed me what was already installed in my brain and heart.  Joe is the head of my household, just as my dad was head of my childhood household and Joe's dad is head of his.  I am no "doormat" as I was an a very abusive first marriage, but even then, I was a submissive woman.  I have a few great books on a women being a man's helpmeet, as well.

The reason I posted this, is because it shows how a man loves his wife.  It is taken from a book I own called, "All the WOMEN of the Bible"... by Herbert Lockyer.  Two of my SIL's are graduates of the Bible college at Cleveland Baptist Church.  This book is part of the required reading for the course in Bible study.  It is a history of the women of the Bible, and what contributions to God's word, these women had.  It is hope for those women in abusive marriages, where their husband tramples on them.  While I believe in obedience to Joe, I cannot condone abuse.  Thankfully, I have never been abused by Joe, as I was in my first marriage.  Had I not left that highly abusive first marriage, most likely, I wouldn't be alive to type these words.  Praise the Lord for godly husbands! 

 

Many do not know that Matthew Henry is a Presbyterian.

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And it is this way of understanding scripture that causes so much radical rebellion and disobedience.

 

Its not a matter of 'equality' as human understand it. The Bible says that in Christ there is no Jew or Gentile, nor male or female.

 

Now I realize that in this world there IS male and female, because the Bible cleaqrly lays out rules of who can do what, but is it really a metter of equality?

 

The order is Father, Son, Man, Woman.  So let me ask, is Jesus the Son less than Jehovah the Father? Of course not, not in eternity, but in the necessity of order for this time, Jesus has accepted a position below the Father. So in the big scheme of things, the woman is no less than the man, but in this time, she is placed in a lower position in the order.

 

But this has nothing to do with equality-each perso is equally in need of salvation by Jesus Christ, each person is equally saved and in eternity, each person will be fuly equal.

 

And if we want to say that women are unequal because the Lord has disallowed them to do certain things yet, then man is certainly unequal because wehave been disallowed to do ne of the most important things in this life: to produce life-women have the babies, they supply the next generation-what a privilege! Yes men add to the process, but the woman does the most important part and without them, without that which the Lord designed them to do, there would be no human race. NO one for the man to teach and preach to, no family to be head of.

 

So holding to Bible teachings causes problems & troubles? Your absolutely right, the world hates Bible teachings, just as they hated Jesus, that's why they hung Him on the cross.

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Every atheist I have ever known has wore shoes.  Better get rid of your shoes or you might be mistaken for an atheist.

Every buddhist monk is bald.  Better never let that hair fall our or you might be mistaken for a buddhist monk.

Every JW goes grocery shopping, better stop going to the store.   Don't want to imitate the JW's.

The pink ribbon does not represent Komen.  It represents breast cancer awareness.

That's true.

 

Also, Mormon men have short hair so we better not judge one another based upon hair. Better to actually get to know who someone is before making a judgment.

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Someone just needs to go back to the title and alter it a little.  :D  There is a lot of good stuff on here!  The last few comments are really getting to the heart of the matter, though.  It is all about gender roles and submission to authority the way God has ordained it.  We either do it willingly the way it is intended or we fight it tooth and nail in the gray, and sometimes not-so-gray areas!

 

Man hates authority, submission, until they've completely surrendered to the Savior.

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Many do not know that Matthew Henry is a Presbyterian.

 

I don't care, Jerry.  At one time the Presbyterians taught right out of the KJV, strong doctrine included.  Not all Christians are Baptist's, Jerry.  Numerous evangelists, in past history, were often times not Baptists.  Our country and world is filled with men of God who preached the word of God, correctly, yet weren't Baptist.  You are starting to sound like a "Baptist Brider."  I am not one.  Baptists aren't the only ones going to heaven.  The requirement for heaven is accepting the Lord Jesus Christ, as Personal Saviour.  And, knowing that salvation is not by works, but by Christ's shed blood on the Cross of Calvary.  A personal relationship with the King of Kings and Lord of Lord is exquisite, no words can describe that.  While I am prone to the Baptist faith, given the rich history, and knowing we hold to the teachings of the early church, I certainly don't believe that only Baptists are the only people going to heaven.  That isn't scriptural.  We will be surprised, one day, who will will see in heaven, and believe it or not, some Baptists aren't going to make it.  A denomination does not get people an entrance key into the Kingdom of heaven.  The requirement is so simple.  Complicating God's word is what confuses people.  I prefer to keep the message simple.  Christ certainly did.  Aren't we supposed to carry on the message that Christ taught? 

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Though I am not a Baptist Brider either -- just for clarification: Briders generally don't teach that only Baptists are going to Heaven, they teach (again, for the most part) that only properly baptized Baptists will be in the Bride of Christ. All other saved people will be guests and attendants.

 

Not my stance but mentioned for accuracy sake.

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