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Entire Month Of Preaching On Tithing?

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lefton,

If I may ask, is your daughter planning on continuing her education?  College? 

If so, I believe the Law provides that you can continue drawing Social Security for her until the age of 22.  You may want to check into that and discuss your daughter's future plans concerning education.

 

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yes, we are to be good stewards over our money. I addressed that in post #10

Totally agree! However the question was not should we; but are we.

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lefton,

If I may ask, is your daughter planning on continuing her education?  College? 

If so, I believe the Law provides that you can continue drawing Social Security for her until the age of 22.  You may want to check into that and discuss your daughter's future plans concerning education.

 

 

yes she is going to college.

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Maintaining the feeding of a child of 17 on $66 a month???!!! 

lefton,

As both myself and Bro K have stressed, it is important that we be faithful stewards over the money that God has given to us.

I encourage you to study out the Word on tithing. (as you said you would do)  If you were living anywhere between the giving of the Mosaic/Levitic Law, and 96 A.D., when the last book of the Bible was written, you would not have been required to tithe

Your pastor should not be requiring you to tithe today.  Rather, he should be providing for you.

Acts 20:33-35 I have coveted no man's silver, or gold, or apparel. Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me. I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.

Nowhere in the Bible will you find instruction for the poor to tithe to either the Temple or to the Church. 

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Totally agree! However the question was not should we; but are we.

Truth be known, any that bow to the man-made doctrine of tithing their income to the Church are not being good stewards, imo.

As post #10 states, many take that 10% to the Church and ignore needs in their own family or in their own community.  The general consensus is, "I've given God what He requires... I need do no more."

Truth is, God doesn't require that 10% go to the Church.  He never has required that in Scripture.  But His Word does tell us

1 John 3:17 But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?

I wonder how many "tither's" have shut up their bowels of compassion in their own neighborhood all so they could bow to a man-made doctrine?  How many go "whoring after their own inventions" and neglect the widow, the orphan, etc., who are in their own neighnorhoods?

Truly saddening when one reflects on the seriousness of the matter.

Psalms 106:39 Thus were they defiled with their own works, and went a whoring with their own inventions.

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yes she is going to college.

Lefton,

If she is staying at home, you need to contact your local Social Security Administration and make sure some funds continue.  At present, all you get is that $66 for her (which, granted, isn't much) but every little bit helps.  Unless rules have changed, she should be receiving until she is 22 as long as she is furthering her education.

 

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Lefton,

If she is staying at home, you need to contact your local Social Security Administration and make sure some funds continue.  At present, all you get is that $66 for her (which, granted, isn't much) but every little bit helps.  Unless rules have changed, she should be receiving until she is 22 as long as she is furthering her education.

 

 

I'll check into it. Thanks for info!

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Just checked the Social Security Website. 

Things have changed some.  Here is what they say:

 

Your unmarried children who are under 18 (up to age 19 if attending elementary or secondary school full time) can be eligible to receive Social Security benefits when you die.

And your child can get benefits at any age if he or she was disabled before age 22 and remains disabled.

Besides your natural children, your stepchildren, grandchildren, step grandchildren or adopted children may receive benefits under certain circumstances.

 

It appears that you have yet another year if your daughter is in College.  Contact your local SSA before February to let them know.

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everything else stops when she turns 18. I only get $66 a month for her as it is.

 

I think you may be right. I found this, that is if it applies in your case.

 

Under social security rules Sam’s children may receive benefits so long as they are not married and under the age of 18. Once the child reaches the age of 18 the benefit will discontinue unless the child in enrolled in elementary or secondary education. If the child is enrolled is elementary or secondary education, then his or her benefits will continue until the child graduates, or two months after that child reaches the age of 19, whichever occurs first.

 

It seems there's no benefits for the child after they reach 18 & graduate & or 19.

 

Yet it would not hurt to check in about it if you have not already done so at a local Social Security office. All of that stuff is so complicated.

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Proper stewardship for the saved can be learned by reading Matthew 25:34-40; 2 Corinthians 8:12-13 & 2Corinthians 9:6-7

Matthew 25:34 (KJV) 34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

Matthew 25:35 (KJV) 35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

Matthew 25:36 (KJV) 36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

Matthew 25:37 (KJV) 37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed [thee]? or thirsty, and gave [thee] drink?

Matthew 25:38 (KJV) 38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took [thee] in? or naked, and clothed [thee]?

Matthew 25:39 (KJV) 39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

Matthew 25:40 (KJV) 40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done [it] unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done [it] unto me.

2 Corinthians 8:12 (KJV) 12 For if there be first a willing mind, [it is] accepted according to that a man hath, [and] not according to that he hath not.

2 Corinthians 8:13 (KJV) 13 For [i mean] not that other men be eased, and ye burdened:

2 Corinthians 9:6 (KJV) 6 But this [i say], He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully.

2 Corinthians 9:7 (KJV) 7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, [so let him give]; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.1385053_10202520279034481_88200234_n.jpg

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lefton, search out the principles of the tithe, and not necessarily the word tithe.  One man has been feeding you with his opinion on tithing--he definitely has a hang up on that doctrine.  Don't allow yourself to be influenced by any of us, but let the Holy Spirit teach you what is truth, that's His job anyway.  The Old Testament was an entirely different culture, but it is a "shadow (as explained in Col 2:17 and Heb. 10:1)  There are other things that are obviously "shadows" of the New Testament (Tabernacle, Temple=church; storehouse=church, etc.)  Please consider that though men change and cultures change, the principle of the Word og God never change, they are "settled in Heaven".

 

Hope this helps.

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I think you may be right. I found this, that is if it applies in your case.

 

Under social security rules Sam’s children may receive benefits so long as they are not married and under the age of 18. Once the child reaches the age of 18 the benefit will discontinue unless the child in enrolled in elementary or secondary education. If the child is enrolled is elementary or secondary education, then his or her benefits will continue until the child graduates, or two months after that child reaches the age of 19, whichever occurs first.

 

It seems there's no benefits for the child after they reach 18 & graduate & or 19.

 

Yet it would not hurt to check in about it if you have not already done so at a local Social Security office. All of that stuff is so complicated.

 

Secondary school is high school. She graduates high school in May. No benefits for her after that. She'll be going to a public university for pre-med.

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There is no such animal as a "principle of tithe."

If God wanted such a principle, He would have had ALL Israelites tithe, and not just the farmers and herders.  But He did not have all tithe, did He?  Only those who grew crops and bred livestock were required to tithe.

The tithe was from the increase that God gave to man.  Man could plant a seed, man could water that seed.  But no matter what that man did, he could not bring life to that seed and cause it to grow.... God gave the increase. 

1 Corinthians 3:7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.

Likewise, no matter what man does with his livestock, it is God that gives the increase.

There is no "principle of tithe."

The tithes were to go to the Levites... not at the Temple, but in their Levitical cities.  Then, the Levites were to take a tithe of the tithe to the Temple.  That's right... only 1% of all the increase of Israel went to the Temple storehouse, not 10%.

Where is the principle, Irishman?  The facts are, money was in abundance during the Mosaic/Levitic Law... Yet, God did not want money as the tithe.  Money was abundant.  It was used to buy and sell slaves.  It was used for court fines.  It was used for Temple vows, Temple Taxes.and poll taxes.  It was used to buy tithes.  It was used as marriage dowry.  Yet, it was never tithed.

There is no such thing as "principle of tithe." 

Why no mention of instruction of the Church to tithe anywhere in the New Testament?  Because tithing was an ordinance of the Mosaic/Levitic Law and the Lord Jesus Christ abolished the ordinances.

There is no "principle of tithing."

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If one diligently studies the tithes of the Bible, one will see that this claim of there being a "principle of tithing" is nothing more than hogwash.

Abraham: Tithed the spoils of war (property he wouldn't even claim as his own, but belonged to others).
Jacob: Vowed to tithe on condition that God meet certain requirements first.
Mosaic/Levitic Law: Only those who had gardens, those who had orchards, and those who bred livestock tithed,  If a farmer had less than ten animals to be born in the year, he was not required to tithe.
Malachi: It was actually the Priests that were robbing God.  They had removed the tithes from the storehouse and moved God's enemy, an Ammonite, in. 
scribes and Pharisees:  They tithed mint, cummin, dill, anise, all manner of herbs.  No mention of them tithing money.

So what is the “principle”?  That which is practiced in so many Churches today under the name of "tithing" doesn't resemble (in any way shape or form) any of the tithe practices of the Bible.
There is no principle of tithing. It is an invention of man formulated to garner finances from gullible people.  That money could be used to feed many who are going without in our own backyards.

Edited by Standing Firm In Christ

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I always find it interesting (I'm guilty of this myself) that a thread where someone wants to praise the Lord or post a prayer request that they hardly get any encouragement or acknowledgment that we are praying for them. They get 1 to 2 reply's. Whereas threads like this keep going and going.

 

My recommendation for OB is to head over to the Prayer Request and Praise God threads and let's lift each other up in prayer. People may be more willing to listen to what we have to say if we can show them that we genuinely care and love them.

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      That message is taken from Malachi 3:8-10…. “Will A Man Rob God?”
      Many a pastor had his congregation open their Bibles to Malachi 3:8-10 and read the passage that chapter 1 reveals was to the children of Israel.  They then try to bring the letter to Israel out of Israel and into their city or town in their own country.
      They preach to their congregation that they are “robbing God” because they are not bringing the tithe of their income to the house of God.
      The pastor continues to inform his congregation that if they do not begin to tithe their money, God will attack their finances, their home, their families, their health,  their jobs, their vehicles; the list could go on and on.
      Friends, that message they are presenting fits the legal system’s definition of extortion.  They are trying to instill fear into your mind, fear of disaster, if you don’t get protection.
      They then tell you how to get protection… pay 10% of your income to God!  Friends, that is extortion through and through.
      They preach the message of a 10% tithe “under color of official right,” but if one studies out the specifics of God’s Holy tithe, one will discover that they have no “official right” to collect a tithe from their congregation.
      The tithe was limited to within the boundaries of national Israel and was to be given to the Levites who were living in 48 cities.  It was never authorized to the New Testament Church.
      God’s tithe was also never money according to Leviticus 27 and Numbers 18.
      Shame on those pastors who are guilty of extorting money from their flock!  They one day will answer to God for handling His Word deceitfully and oppressing His people with fear tactics under the guise of “official right.”
      Friends, God’s Holy Word tells us in 2 Corinthians 9:7 that we are to give as we purpose in our own hearts to give.  A tithe does not allow one to purpose what they will give. A tithe is a set amount…10%.  How is one purposing in one’s own heart what to give if he is giving 10% because his pastor told him that is what he is supposed to give?  The fact is, giving what your pastor determines is nothing more than giving of compulsion… giving because you have to.
      Notice 2 Corinthians 9:7…
      2 Corinthians 9:7 (KJV) Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.
      The word “purposeth” is translated from the Greek word “proaireomai”, and it means “to choose for oneself”.  A pastor has no “official right” to tell his congregation to give 10% of their money to the Church.  God’s Word tells the congregation to “choose for oneself” what one wants to give.  God did not tell that pastor to preach to his congregation that they must tithe their money.  Nor did he tell that pastor that the congregation would be cursed if they didn’t tithe their money.
      Friends, give to the Church.  The Church does need money to pay for electricity, sanitation, etc..  But give what you choose for yourself to give, not what someone else tells you you must give.  If you are giving a set amount because you have been told by your pastor to give that amount, then you are not giving according to God’s instructions.
    • By Standing Firm In Christ
      The pastor preached on tithing.

      Now, he knows my wife and I don't tithe. We do not believe it is a New Testament teaching for Christians. The Apostles never taught it in any of their epistles.

      Now, mind you it is not that he preached on tithing that upset us, he has preached on tithing in the past. What upset us is an out and out lie he told in his pulpit.

      He told the congregation that he does not know who tithes and who does not.

      The fact is, he knows my wife and I don't tithe. He has cornered me in the past and told me we need to start tithing. So his statement that he doesn't know who tithes and who does not was an out and out lie.

      Truth be known, no one in the Church tithes... even when they put 10% of their money in one of those white and green "Tithes" envelopes, so the whole sermon was built upon a lie.
    • By Miss Daisy
      Should I tithe from the child support I receive for my daughter?
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