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Our pastor is doing the whole month on tithing and stewardship. That's two sermons every Sunday. (Wed. night is for kids). Then we have a guest speaker so when he comes it'll be 5 sermons in 3 days on tithing and stewardship. He started last Sunday so we've already 4 sermons in 2 Sundays on it.

I love guest speakers but I really don't want to hear any more on tithing already.

 

I'm on a fixed income so I can't go above and beyond and promise to tithe more no matter how good the sermon. I know what I make every month. It'll actually be going down some in Feb. So I'll be tithing less.

 

I don't like being told that God is going to get his tithe one way or another. If my car breaks down, that's not God getting the money it's the mechanic.

 

It's as if I'm being told my blessings are stifled because I CANT give anymore than I do. It's not a lack of faith, it's a lack of money. I already try to tithe above 10%, some months I can and some months I can't.

 

 

 

 

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So many pastors err on the teaching on Stewardship, I am not surprised.

Malachi 3 is the only place in the entire Word of God where one can find the blessings and curses associated with tithing.

Mechanical failure is not one of those curses. 

It is wrong for any pastor to bully their members into giving 10% of their hard earned money to the Church.  The Law has a word for that...extortion.

Here's a link to a Sermon Outline I did on Malachi 3:7-11 in the Sermons section here on OB...

>Proper Teaching From Malachi 3:7-11

Here's a link to an article a friend of mine did that does a contextual study of Malachi (where preachers get their bullying message from) and explains who Malachi was written to, why it was written, and what the curses were for those who disobeyed.

http://unchurchifiedchristians.wordpress.com/2013/11/01/the-tithe-a-contextual-study-of-the-book-of-malachi/


 

Edited by Standing Firm In Christ

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Someone has opened a can of worms...AGAIN!

 

I don't like being told my faults either, but I know it is needed.  Maybe you should look at it from a different perspective--some preachers (many, in fact) approach it wrong, but it still should not affect our giving.  If "delivery" were the focus, there are many Biblical concepts that we would reject.

 

Please don't put so much on the delivery, but look more to the message.  Just remember that cultures have changed, and we tithe income rather than crops, it is still a tithe in principle.

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Our pastor is doing the whole month on tithing and stewardship. That's two sermons every Sunday. (Wed. night is for kids). Then we have a guest speaker so when he comes it'll be 5 sermons in 3 days on tithing and stewardship. He started last Sunday so we've already 4 sermons in 2 Sundays on it.

I love guest speakers but I really don't want to hear any more on tithing already.

 

I'm on a fixed income so I can't go above and beyond and promise to tithe more no matter how good the sermon. I know what I make every month. It'll actually be going down some in Feb. So I'll be tithing less.

 

I don't like being told that God is going to get his tithe one way or another. If my car breaks down, that's not God getting the money it's the mechanic.

 

It's as if I'm being told my blessings are stifled because I CANT give anymore than I do. It's not a lack of faith, it's a lack of money. I already try to tithe above 10%, some months I can and some months I can't.

It's a shame when a pastor gets fixated on money and thinks the only way he can get people to give is to try to bind them to OT Jewish law and use scare tactics that are unbiblical, yet there are many who do this. This is a common trait among "prosperity preachers".

 

If they would only preach and teach NT giving, lead everyone to the Lord in prayer on the matter, they would be fully funded and in accord with Scripture.

 

Guilt tripping and trying to bind believers to the OT law are both against the clear teachings in the NT.

 

Take the matter to the Lord in prayer and He will direct you as to what He wants you to give.

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Giving/ Tithing/ Whatever you want to call it. I get it. I get the principle. God is not going to lead me to give what I don't have. FIXED INCOME. I understand he has to teach the whole Bible but does it have to jam packed every time we meet until we're tuning it out?

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lefton, just pray that God will guide you as to what you are to give.  We also have a month of stewardship preaching.  But stewardship encompasses things besides money.  

 

One thing our former pastor (we have a new one, now) has consistently said through the years is that God will tell you how much to give - and that, at times, that would mean a decrease in amount.  But the thing to do is make sure you know exactly what God would have you do. 

 

And be careful...sometimes it's awful easy for us to allow bitterness to creep in unawares if we aren't happy with what's being preached...Look on it as God speaking to you about other ways of stewardship.  

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Someone has opened a can of worms...AGAIN!

 

I don't like being told my faults either, but I know it is needed.  Maybe you should look at it from a different perspective--some preachers (many, in fact) approach it wrong, but it still should not affect our giving.  If "delivery" were the focus, there are many Biblical concepts that we would reject.

 

Please don't put so much on the delivery, but look more to the message.  Just remember that cultures have changed, and we tithe income rather than crops, it is still a tithe in principle.

 

It may be a can of worms to you but it's not to me. It's repetitive, same verses every message. He came back from a conference on missions last week and is all fired up on missions. We're still a very small church (20 adultsSunday am). We're still being supported ourselves.  

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Even if your income is down, are you still giving the same percentage?  Then in God's eyes, you're still giving the same.

 

It's also a matter of faith, if you feel led to give more and step out on faith (knowing that your checkbook won't like it) God always provides and often in mysterious ways.

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The only problem I see with allowing the Lord to lay it on your heart as to what, and how much to give is that we often claim that is what God leads us to do, because it's what we WANT to do, or because we feel we cannot afford to do it His way.  That is why percentage giving was given, so that all would make the same sacrifice regardless of income or availability.

 

Many preachers, who desperately desire to be preachers may not be God called, but they will say they are because it is so important to them, and they reason with themselves that "God must want me to, He told us to spread the Gospel message" (or something along those lines).  I am not sure that I ever heard anyone say "God told me not to give" or to preach, or whatever. I believe it's that way with many aspects of our Christian walk, including the tithe.

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lefton,

As both John and I have pointed out, God doesn't expect us to operate under the guidelines of the Mosaic/Levitic Law.

We have been brought into a new Covenant with God.  The old is no more.

Hebrews 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

So many pastors and teachers today attempt to keep their congregations under the guidelines of the Mosaic/Levitic Law, when that is not God's plan for the Church at all.

God has given us His direction concerning our giving... and it is not a giving that is forced on us.  Notice:

2 Corinthians 9:6-7 But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully. Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.

2 Corinthians 8:12-13 For if there be first a willing mind, it is accepted according to that a man hath, and not according to that he hath not. For I mean not that other men be eased, and ye burdened:


God wants us to choose for ourselves, the amount that we want to give.  The word "purposeth" in the above verse is translated from the Greek word, "proaireomai," and it simply means... to choose for oneself.  Now ask yourself, if you are giving 10% of your money because your pastor has told you that that that is what God wants, have you chosen for yourself? or have you let someone else choose for you?  When you give 10% for any other reason than because it is what you chose to give, you are giving under the wrong motives.  If you give because you don't want to be cursed, you give for the wrong reason.  If you give because Pastor Rex Torshunest told you God expects it, you give for the wrong reason.

The other verse I posted reveals that God does not want your giving to ease others and place you under a burden at home.  You make sure you take care of family needs first... then give what you feel you are able to give.  That is the giving that God expects of you.  Not a giving because of being bullied.  Not a giving that leaves you struggling.  Take care of family first.

1 Timothy 5:8 But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

And who knows?  God may want your giving to go to that poor widow on your street who is struggling.  He may want your giving to go to an orphan at your local school.  Or to a foreigner who is barely making it.  Open your eyes to those around you.  They just may need that money before your Church does.

Matthew 25:34-40 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

Now, don't get me wrong.  I do know the Church needs finances to operate, and if you want to give to meet those finances that is wonderful!  But be careful not to neglect those who are in need in your own community if you are able to do so.  Many times we give $5, $10, $20, even $50 to missionaries to other lands and turn our eyes and hearts away from those in need in our own neighborhoods. 

Maybe its time we should all begin to remember the old cliche, "Charity begins at home."

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Actually, lefton, I think you need to go and speak to your pastor about your concerns.  You will get conflicting messages here, because not everyone believes the same way.  If you are going to continue as a member of that church, you should speak to your pastor about things.

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Rather than just talk to your pastor, maybe you should confront him?

Print out all the passages in the Bible that deal with tithing.  Then, ask your pastor where in the Bible was the tithe amended to a tithe of money?  Where was it amended to be weekly? year in and year out without a break? when God said every seventh year there were no tithes of crops?

Ask him how is it you choosing what to give as instructed in the Word of God, when he is telling you you must give 10%?  Ask how an agricultural curse was amended to a mechanical curse? and where exactly can that be found in the Bible?

 

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Our pastor is doing the whole month on tithing and stewardship. That's two sermons every Sunday. (Wed. night is for kids). Then we have a guest speaker so when he comes it'll be 5 sermons in 3 days on tithing and stewardship. He started last Sunday so we've already 4 sermons in 2 Sundays on it.

I love guest speakers but I really don't want to hear any more on tithing already.

 

I'm on a fixed income so I can't go above and beyond and promise to tithe more no matter how good the sermon. I know what I make every month. It'll actually be going down some in Feb. So I'll be tithing less.

 

I don't like being told that God is going to get his tithe one way or another. If my car breaks down, that's not God getting the money it's the mechanic.

 

It's as if I'm being told my blessings are stifled because I CANT give anymore than I do. It's not a lack of faith, it's a lack of money. I already try to tithe above 10%, some months I can and some months I can't.

 

Some pastors totally change a church, & that church becomes all about money. I was once in such a church, a Sunday never went by that the pastor did not speak about money, with him saying we have to dig down into our pockets & give.
 
 
 
The truth is if he fed the sheep the proper food he would not have had to bring up money every time he stood behind the pulpit & preach on giving at least once per month. I confess, every time he did this I felt so sorry for the elderly people in that church, probably 1/4 of the congregation, maybe more, was made up of elderly who survive on $800.00 per month or less. He stole their cheerfulness every week.
 
 
 
Some pastors have no shame when it comes to money, the more money given builds up their resume, & helps them climb the latter of success, being called to a church with many members & a big collection plate that’s overflowing. 
 
 
 
Tithing is not taught in the New Testament, it is a doctrine of men who tries to steal every Christians grace, & cheerfulness.
 
 
 
2Co 9:7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver
 
 
 
2Co 8:5 And this they did, not as we hoped, but first gave their own selves to the Lord, and unto us by the will of God.
 
Don’t let a teacher or pastor that proclaims tithing steal your cheerfulness, they surely will if you let them. I feel sure many a man hated Jesus when He complimented the poor widow who threw in her two mites. And today many church members still looks down on the poor widow or widower & or even the married couple who has several children with a small income, when it comes to giving. Thinking if they would give God more & be as good as them them God would them bless them as He blesses them with lots of money. As one man said during church services, “The Lord blesses me & my wife with lots of money because we are very good Christians. And he would do everyone the same way if they were good Christians & give as we do.”
 
And yes, some will try their best to tear my thoughts to shreds while looking down on me & other who declare the Bible does not teach tithing as stealing money from God. 

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Ecclesiastes 8:4 Where the word of a king is, there is power: and who may say unto him, What doest thou?

Have you ever wondered why so many have been deceived into believing the monetary tithe requirement lie that is taught from so many pulpits today? Because “where the word of a king is, there is power.”

In many churches around the world, the people of the congregation have lifted their pastors up to the position of “king” in their eyes.

“What the pastor teaches is Gospel,” seems to be the general consensus of the population. “Nobody has the right to question his doctrines!”

But when those doctrines are contrary to the Written Word, those doctrines are to be rejected. The pastor that teaches contrary to what we have been given through inspiration of the Holy Ghost is to be marked and identified as a false prophet.

Romans 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the Doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.

Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this Word, it is because there is no light in them.

The pastor has guidelines that he is to adhere to. One of those guidelines is to “preach the Word.”

2 Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

Paul did not tell the young Timothy to preach his own opinions and ideas. Rather, he instructed Timothy that he was to “Preach the Word.”

Many pastors, shirk their responsibility to “Feed the flock of God” that which God has given them to feed the flock with.

1 Peter 5:1-4 The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed: Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind; Neither as being lords over God's heritage, but being ensamples to the flock. And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away.

When it comes to lessons in stewardship responsibility, instead of feeding the flock the Word, pastors will bring “junk food” to the pulpit. Food that satisfies the flesh, but is bad for the soul. Food that was processed in the dark kitchen of a vain imagination. And because this “junk food” looks good (remember the forbidden fruit looked good to Eve also?) many will accept it, eat it, and pass it on to others.

Brethren, I encourage you, open your Bibles and read the truth concerning God’s Holy tithe and the tithes of the Old Testament. There are less than fifty verses that deal with tithes in the Word of God. Be as the Bereans of Acts 17; not just concerning tithes, but any message from the pulpit. When you hear a message from the pulpit, write down the Scripture references given in the message. Go home and look up those Scriptures. Search the Scriptures, whether those things are so.

Esteem your pastors, they are worthy of "double honour."  But do not view them as kings who can do no wrong.  When you do, you are guilty of idolatry.  Remember, in the Word of God every king in ancient Israel was guilty of doing things his way instead of Gods way at one time or another during his rule as king. And when they did things that were contrary to God’s design, God dealt with them harshly. Pastors who teach the monetary tithe are like those kings of old… they are doing things their way instead of God’s. And when a pastor does things his way, he teaches contrary to the Word.

Acts 5:29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

God expects us to obey Him rather than man. When man teaches that God requires a monetary tithe of the congregation, reject the message… it is junk food. God expects our giving to be from our heart. He does not want a monetary tithe. He has given us instruction to give where we see the need and when we have to give, and to do so willingly and cheerfully.

1 John 3:17 But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?

2 Corinthians 9:7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.

Edited by Standing Firm In Christ

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When one is in error, and the pastor is teaching that error, I do not believe the best advice to give is to "go talk to your pastor."

Until that one can be shown why his or her pastor's doctrine is incorrect, it will do no good to "talk to the pastor" who is convinced that what he teaches is correct.

Instead, those who know the truth should attempt to guide the one, equipping that one with the Truth so that when that one does confront the pastor, that one will be well armed with the Truth.

Otherwise, that one is fighting a losing battle.  You cannot battle error with ignorance of Truth.

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Our pastor is doing the whole month on tithing and stewardship. That's two sermons every Sunday. (Wed. night is for kids). Then we have a guest speaker so when he comes it'll be 5 sermons in 3 days on tithing and stewardship. He started last Sunday so we've already 4 sermons in 2 Sundays on it.

I love guest speakers but I really don't want to hear any more on tithing already.

 

I'm on a fixed income so I can't go above and beyond and promise to tithe more no matter how good the sermon. I know what I make every month. It'll actually be going down some in Feb. So I'll be tithing less.

 

I don't like being told that God is going to get his tithe one way or another. If my car breaks down, that's not God getting the money it's the mechanic.

 

It's as if I'm being told my blessings are stifled because I CANT give anymore than I do. It's not a lack of faith, it's a lack of money. I already try to tithe above 10%, some months I can and some months I can't.

 I've heard many sermons/lessons on tithing which dealt with "giving"; however I cannot remember ever hearing one that dealt on "using" the tithes. Are we really good stewards of the Lord's money?

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I had a good prayer with the Lord earlier about tithing. I will continue to tithe as I had been. I didn't plan on stopping tithing. My point was I don't have deep pockets or extra money. I  have Social security disability about $800 monthly for me and my daughter only for past year. And it's going to be reduced to below $800 in Feb when she turns 18. I will still continue to tithe.

My issue was every sermon on tithing for month straight with guest speaker continuing preaching on it too.

My pastor isn't money hungry or that's all he talks about. He's a great pastor. I will be continuing my own study in the Word on tithing. When I have questions he is good to answer them. There's not going to be any 'confronting' going on. 

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      Deuteronomy 14:28 At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates:

      Again, three more verses to show the tithe was grown in the field and eaten. The second and third tithes are mentioned in the above three verses. the first mentioned is known as “the Festival tithe,” or “Second Tithe”. That tithe was to be taken to the place that God chose and there eaten with the tither’s family and Levites there. Like the Levitical tithe, the Festival tithe was also to be OBserved yearly. for the first six years in a seven year cycle.

      The third tithe is known as the “Poor Tithe”. It was to be given to the less fortunate in the boundaries of Israel; i.e., the widows, the orphans, the Levites living on one’s land, and the foreigners taking refuge in Israel. This tithe was to be OBserved once every three years in a seven year cycle.

      The seventh year in a seven year cycle, the land was to rest. There could be no planting, nor harvesting of crops. Thus, no land tithe that year.
      Deuteronomy 26:12 When thou hast made an end of tithing all the tithes of thine increase the third year, which is the year of tithing, and hast given it unto the Levite, the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, that they may eat within thy gates, and be filled;

      That they may eat… and be filled. Again, tithes were eaten.
      2 Chronicles 31:5 And as soon as the commandment came abroad, the children of Israel brought in abundance the firstfruits of corn, wine, and oil, and honey, and of all the increase of the field; and the tithe of all things brought they in abundantly.
      2 Chronicles 31:6 And concerning the children of Israel and Judah, that dwelt in the cities of Judah, they also brought in the tithe of oxen and sheep, and the tithe of holy things which were consecrated unto the LORD their God, and laid them by heaps.
      2 Chronicles 31:12 And brought in the offerings and the tithes and the dedicated things faithfully: over which Cononiah the Levite was ruler, and Shimei his brother was the next.

      Again, tithes were crops and livestock.
      Nehemiah 10:37 And that we should bring the firstfruits of our dough, and our offerings, and the fruit of all manner of trees, of wine and of oil, unto the priests, to the chambers of the house of our God; and the tithes of our ground unto the Levites, that the same Levites might have the tithes in all the cities of our tillage.
      Nehemiah 10:38 And the priest the son of Aaron shall be with the Levites, when the Levites take tithes: and the Levites shall bring up the tithe of the tithes unto the house of our God, to the chambers, into the treasure house.

      Tithes were not firstfruits. Firstfruits were taken one place by the Israelites and the tithes were taken to another place by the Israelites. The Levites were responsible for bringing a tithe of the tithe to the House of the Lord. And notice what the tithes consisted of… that which grew in the ground.

      Nehemiah 12:44 And at that time were some appointed over the chambers for the treasures, for the offerings, for the firstfruits, and for the tithes, to gather into them out of the fields of the cities the portions of the law for the priests and Levites: for Judah rejoiced for the priests and for the Levites that waited.

      Again, tithes and firstfruits are clearly seen as being two separate things.

      Nehemiah 13:5 And he had prepared for him a great chamber, where aforetime they laid the meat offerings, the frankincense, and the vessels, and the tithes of the corn, the new wine, and the oil, which was commanded to be given to the Levites, and the singers, and the porters; and the offerings of the priests.
      Nehemiah 13:12 Then brought all Judah the tithe of the corn and the new wine and the oil unto the treasuries.

      Eliashib the High Priest at that time had taken the tithes out of the storehouse and moved God’s enemy TOBiah the Ammonite into the Temple storehouse chambers. Note what the tithes were… corn (corn referred to any type of grain, not necessarily corn alone), new wine, and oil… that which is all food products; i.e., eaten.

      Amos 4:4 Come to Bethel, and transgress; at Gilgal multiply transgression; and bring your sacrifices every morning, and your tithes after three years:

      Bring your tithes… what tithes? Why, the tithes the Law required; i.e., agricultural produce and livestock.

      Malachi 3:8 Will a man rOB God? Yet ye have rOBbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we rOBbed thee? In tithes and offerings.
      Malachi 3:9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have rOBbed me, even this whole nation.
      Malachi 3:10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.


      All the tithes; i.e., tithes of corn, flour, new wine, oils, spices, herbs… everything that was titheable. Why? That there may be meat in mine house. MEAT… food.

      Throughout the Old Testament Law, the tithes were consistently that which was eaten. There is no denying that fact. No mention of money being tithed whatsoever.

      Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
      Luke 11:42 But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

      Here, our Lord commends the scribes and Pharisees for their OBedience in tithing ans tells them they should be tithing. But notice what they were tithing… garden spices and herbs. Not money. Money was not a titheable thing under the Mosaic Law.

      Luke 18:12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

      This verse is part of a parable. Jesus was telling of a prideful Pharisee who boasted of going over and above what the Law required. The Pharisee had his reward. Notice the Pharisee was not speaking to God, but rather, within himself; i.e., to his own self. He was so lifted up in pride he had convinced himself that he had to do more than what the LORD required under the Law in order to be justified. And yet, instead of being justified, he was condemned.

      Hebrews 7:4 Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils.

      Here, we see what it was that Abram tithed. As stated above, these spoils were not Abram's own silver and gold, but the spoils of war… the property of Bera the king of Sodom, which he had promised God he would not take any of unto himself (Gen 14:22-24)
      Hebrews 7:5 And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham:
      This is speaking of the agricultural tithe. The author says “have a commandment to take tithes” because the Temple was still standing. Levites were still receiving the agricultural tithe according to the Law. The command was for the Levites to receive tithes of their brethren... the children of Israel
      Hebrews 7:6 But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises.
      Received tithes of the spoils of war, not Abram’s silver and gold.
      Hebrews 7:8 And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth.
      Again, the tithe that men that die receive is referring to the agricultural tithe. The Levites were still receiving that tithe. They would receive it for another four years and then Titus would invade Jerusalem and destroy the Temple, putting a stop to the collection of tithes.

      Hebrews 7:9 And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham.

      Not one of the verses on tithing throughout the Word of God support the doctrine that one is to tithe one’s money. No instruction is given in the Word of God to tithe one’s money. It is a man-made doctrine that began in the Roman Catholic religious system in the year 777 A.D., and not adopted by any Protestant Church until 1873 A.D..

      The Baptists were the last Church denomination to adopt the monetary tithe doctrine. This was around the middle of the twentieth century A.D..
    • By Standing Firm In Christ
      I wrote this article several months ago and just got it off of my blog to share here...

      Extortion:  The obtaining of property from another induced by wrongful use of actual or threatened force, violence, or fear, or under color of official right.
      Spanning from 1959 to 1963, Robert Stack starred as Federal Agent Eliot Ness in the TV series “The Untouchables”.
      Eliot Ness worked hard at cleaning up the streets of Chicago, ILL after the city was infiltrated by many crime bosses who would extort money from store owners using strongarm tactics, threats, and often gunplay and murder.
      Extortion was a serious offense and carried a stiff sentence in the Federal Penitentiary if one was convicted of it.  Eliot Ness did not go easy on those who tried to extort money from the citizens of Chicago using scare tactics.
      Today, we can glean from the many episodes of “The Untouchables” an important spiritual truth.  That truth is, just as crime bosses answered to Eliot Ness for their misdeeds, those who offend God’s children will also one day answer to God.
      Many a pastor today stood behind a pulpit and preached a message that was meant to extort money from their congregation through a sermon that was “under color of official right”
      That message is taken from Malachi 3:8-10…. “Will A Man Rob God?”
      Many a pastor had his congregation open their Bibles to Malachi 3:8-10 and read the passage that chapter 1 reveals was to the children of Israel.  They then try to bring the letter to Israel out of Israel and into their city or town in their own country.
      They preach to their congregation that they are “robbing God” because they are not bringing the tithe of their income to the house of God.
      The pastor continues to inform his congregation that if they do not begin to tithe their money, God will attack their finances, their home, their families, their health,  their jobs, their vehicles; the list could go on and on.
      Friends, that message they are presenting fits the legal system’s definition of extortion.  They are trying to instill fear into your mind, fear of disaster, if you don’t get protection.
      They then tell you how to get protection… pay 10% of your income to God!  Friends, that is extortion through and through.
      They preach the message of a 10% tithe “under color of official right,” but if one studies out the specifics of God’s Holy tithe, one will discover that they have no “official right” to collect a tithe from their congregation.
      The tithe was limited to within the boundaries of national Israel and was to be given to the Levites who were living in 48 cities.  It was never authorized to the New Testament Church.
      God’s tithe was also never money according to Leviticus 27 and Numbers 18.
      Shame on those pastors who are guilty of extorting money from their flock!  They one day will answer to God for handling His Word deceitfully and oppressing His people with fear tactics under the guise of “official right.”
      Friends, God’s Holy Word tells us in 2 Corinthians 9:7 that we are to give as we purpose in our own hearts to give.  A tithe does not allow one to purpose what they will give. A tithe is a set amount…10%.  How is one purposing in one’s own heart what to give if he is giving 10% because his pastor told him that is what he is supposed to give?  The fact is, giving what your pastor determines is nothing more than giving of compulsion… giving because you have to.
      Notice 2 Corinthians 9:7…
      2 Corinthians 9:7 (KJV) Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.
      The word “purposeth” is translated from the Greek word “proaireomai”, and it means “to choose for oneself”.  A pastor has no “official right” to tell his congregation to give 10% of their money to the Church.  God’s Word tells the congregation to “choose for oneself” what one wants to give.  God did not tell that pastor to preach to his congregation that they must tithe their money.  Nor did he tell that pastor that the congregation would be cursed if they didn’t tithe their money.
      Friends, give to the Church.  The Church does need money to pay for electricity, sanitation, etc..  But give what you choose for yourself to give, not what someone else tells you you must give.  If you are giving a set amount because you have been told by your pastor to give that amount, then you are not giving according to God’s instructions.
    • By Standing Firm In Christ
      The pastor preached on tithing.

      Now, he knows my wife and I don't tithe. We do not believe it is a New Testament teaching for Christians. The Apostles never taught it in any of their epistles.

      Now, mind you it is not that he preached on tithing that upset us, he has preached on tithing in the past. What upset us is an out and out lie he told in his pulpit.

      He told the congregation that he does not know who tithes and who does not.

      The fact is, he knows my wife and I don't tithe. He has cornered me in the past and told me we need to start tithing. So his statement that he doesn't know who tithes and who does not was an out and out lie.

      Truth be known, no one in the Church tithes... even when they put 10% of their money in one of those white and green "Tithes" envelopes, so the whole sermon was built upon a lie.
    • By Miss Daisy
      Should I tithe from the child support I receive for my daughter?
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