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I don't handle change easily either, but if it is enough to equal a dollar, well, that's different!

 

Kidding aside, I see you mentioned carrying a Bible when you go soul winning.  I have found too that people will often try to pretend no one is home, and we even see lights go off in the house (as if we did not know someone was there!).  Anyway that is why I carry a "soul winning New Testament" in the inside pocket of my coat.

 

My "Franklin" fits into the pocket also, but I only use that when traveling so I don't have to pack a lot of books when I do my reading and studying.

 

Works well for me.

 

I do read the E-Sword Bible online, but as I said, I miss the Book; I have nothing against reading an electronic Bible, as long as it KJB.  E-Sword is not KJV when you download it, but I deleted all the others, so now only have the red letter, and all black and white versions on my program.  Many of the downloads are not KJV either, but there are a few that are.

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You ever notice that Baptists seem not to handle change very easily? :)

 

It's not just Baptists, it's everyone. No one likes change. Common practice and patterns, daily rituals, etc. helps us emotionally feel there's some stability in our lives.

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It's not just Baptists, it's everyone. No one likes change. Common practice and patterns, daily rituals, etc. helps us emotionally feel there's some stability in our lives.

 

:thumb:

 

Correct.

 

Yet the main thing about us Baptist is we do not like doctrinal changes, we do not want to be watered down & some that's come in among us just can't stand that, they want to make us liberal following the ways of false teachers. Of course they don't understand the difference between God's truths & the many false teachers.

 

With that said many of the changes that's taken place has not been for the better, us humans are continuing to become more evil just as God said we would.

 

Just look as what the cell phones & social media has done to many of our children, & grown ups too. And those who fail to keep up with the world are put down. But that's OK, "I Can't Feel At Home In this World Anymore!"

 

Php 3:20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:

 

Wow, I'm so happy that my citizenship is in Heaven, & not this world!

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Well long time ago I had to remember the books of the bible. I was a kid and by learning the books I got better at bible drills. Couple time I read my bible at home on a Sunday and leave my glasses on the table where I was reading it and didn't remember to put it back in my bible case. So I go to church with my bible and can't see what I was reading. So lately I have been reading bible on Kindle. I don't need glasses with a kindle. So glasses stay in my bible and are there for church.

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Study after study has been done over the years regarding how much a person retains out of that which they seee, hear, and do.

 

For years and years, the numbers were as follows:

 

* We retain 20% of what we HEAR,

 

* We retain 40% of what we SEE and HEAR (at the same time), and

 

* We retain 80% of what we SEE, HEAR, and DO (again - at the same time).

 

The most recent study I found online today shows higher percentages:

 

* We retain 20% of what we HEAR,

 

* We retain 50% of what we SEE and HEAR (at the same time), and

 

* We retain 90% of what we SEE, HEAR, and DO (again - at the same time).

 

No matter what study you look at, the evidence is clear: Hearing, Seeing, and Doing - all at the same time - dramatically increases our retention of the matter at hand.

 

Now -

 

How does this fit into this topic?

 

Simple -

 

* If I am sitting in church, and and the Pastor is teaching the Bible, and all I do is listen, I will only remember about 20% of what he said.

 

* If I am sitting in church, and and the Pastor is teaching the Bible, and all I listen and read along as he does so, I willdo better, but will still only remember about 40% of what he said.

 

HOWEVER -

 

* If I am sitting in church, and and the Pastor is teaching the Bible, and I listen, follow along in my bible, AND TAKE NOTES, I will remember a stunning 80-90% of what he said!

 

THEREFORE -

 

Since it's tough to take notes - and I'm talking GOOD, thorough notes - on an I-pad or a tablet, or a laptop, etc., using a HARD COPY of the Bible, to me, is MUCH PREFERRED over an electronic version! Even if I write down things in notebooks, it's not the same - having my notes RIGHT THERE in the Bible passage brings to my mind what I have learned, far better than any other method I may wish to emply.

 

 

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Study after study has been done over the years regarding how much a person retains out of that which they seee, hear, and do.

 

For years and years, the numbers were as follows:

 

* We retain 20% of what we HEAR,

 

* We retain 40% of what we SEE and HEAR (at the same time), and

 

* We retain 80% of what we SEE, HEAR, and DO (again - at the same time).

 

The most recent study I found online today shows higher percentages:

 

* We retain 20% of what we HEAR,

 

* We retain 50% of what we SEE and HEAR (at the same time), and

 

* We retain 90% of what we SEE, HEAR, and DO (again - at the same time).

 

No matter what study you look at, the evidence is clear: Hearing, Seeing, and Doing - all at the same time - dramatically increases our retention of the matter at hand.

 

Now -

 

How does this fit into this topic?

 

Simple -

 

* If I am sitting in church, and and the Pastor is teaching the Bible, and all I do is listen, I will only remember about 20% of what he said.

 

* If I am sitting in church, and and the Pastor is teaching the Bible, and all I listen and read along as he does so, I willdo better, but will still only remember about 40% of what he said.

 

HOWEVER -

 

* If I am sitting in church, and and the Pastor is teaching the Bible, and I listen, follow along in my bible, AND TAKE NOTES, I will remember a stunning 80-90% of what he said!

 

THEREFORE -

 

Since it's tough to take notes - and I'm talking GOOD, thorough notes - on an I-pad or a tablet, or a laptop, etc., using a HARD COPY of the Bible, to me, is MUCH PREFERRED over an electronic version! Even if I write down things in notebooks, it's not the same - having my notes RIGHT THERE in the Bible passage brings to my mind what I have learned, far better than any other method I may wish to emply.

We had a professor at university which conducted his courses according to such. Reading, hearing and writing the material for the sake of better comprehension and remembering.

 

However, we must realize that not everyone fits into the mold on this. Some folks learn more from reading, or listening or from putting something into practice (whether writing it down or doing something else).

 

Myself, I can't take notes and listen to a lecture or preaching or teaching at the same time and gain much at all. However, if I just listen I remember most of what was said. I also have good retention from just reading.

 

That's just me, I've gone to school and to church with folks who were very different, and different in a variety of ways.

 

Still, for most folks various means of repetition is helpful...hearing, seeing and applying.

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No evidence that Jesus or any of His Apostles carried scrolls.  They were known by their testimony, by the way they lived.

My neighbors know I am a Christian, and I don't have to carry a Bible under my arm either.  They know because I live it in front of them.  My testimony before men is not a little black book.  Rather, it is my life in Christ. It is the Word that is hid in my heart.  It is the way I live different than they. 

It has opened doors for me to give an answer for the hope that lies within me.

2 Timothy 4:13 The cloke that I left at Troas with Carpus, when thou comest, bring with thee, and the books, but especially the parchments

 

I think Paul preferred the parchments (scrolls?).

 

Everyone has bibles at church (Central Baptist Baton Rouge, Pastor B. G. Buchanan). I use mostly bound bibles (I mark them with a cyclic reading schedule in the contents and mark pages as I read). However, I believe the cleanest King James Bible text is electronic and can be verified by merging word documents to see if the computer marks differences. This was done for various King James Bible electronic documents and the result is the Pure Cambridge Edition. Whether or not the name "pure" bothers you this is still the future for Christians to ensure the word of God is not tampered with. Having masters on each of our computers so that the clean-ness of a text can be verified and it will never crumble and can be copied from flash drive, to dvd, to flash drive.

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Electronic notes are much easier for me than pencil and pad.  I have quite a few notes on my iPad from sermons I heard.

I don't really even know what an iPad is, how they work or what they are even for.

 

I'm slowing crawling into the 21st century but not too quickly!

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Basically, it's a hand-held computer.

Able to get on internet with it (if you have an internet connection), store many books on it for reading, (Bibles too) calentar,  games, etc., etc..

9"x7" screen,

Wow, no wonder I hear so many people talking about them! Are they expensive?

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While there are exceptions, such as the brother here who has trouble seeing, and while there are people who learn differently, I think for the vast majority of folks, hearing, seeing, and doing - especially with the tactile feel of holding the Bible in your hand and the pen to write with it - impresses on the brain what was heard, seen,and done indelibly.

 

When I was a boy, I loved to read through my dad's copies of the JC Whitney catalogue. I scoured over every page, looked at it intently, felt it with my hands. In short order, I could pcik it up, and, almost without looking, open it to the exact spot I wanted to - it had become that familiar to me.Later, I did the same thing with our World Book Encylopedia - I could find almost anything I wanted to that was in it, almost without thinking.

 

What I am saying is - we often rely on technology to do things for us, often to our detriment. Take spell checkers, as an example - I don't and won't use one. I learned to type with two fingers on a Royal manual typewriter. I don't make many mistakes when I type (ever try to erase type with a tyewriter eraser? You learn to spell fast!) As soon as I make a mistake on the computer, which I rarely do, I instinctively know it because my fingers have been programmed to type the words correctly - it's usually my brain that messes them up. :-) Seriously, though, there's something that I believe God put in us that connects our body, mind, and spirit, and, the more we can invovle all three, the more we retain when learning.

 

Thus, I think it's important to learn to take notes - anyone can do it. Even those, like me, who aren't good at it (I wasn't until I made myself learn to do so). Again, there's something about having that tactile connection to the page and the pen, coupled with the eyes and ears and mind, all pulled together by the Spirit that helps us to retain what we learn from the Word of God.

 

There's a disconnect between our mind and our spirit when the vehicle is an electronic screen - many studies have shown that people who grow up or spend lots of time in their formative years interacting mostly with a screen, albeit a computer, a phone, etc., have trouble interacting and relating to real, flesh and blood humans. I think the barrier is also their in our spiritual side, too.

 

Bottom line - if you can listen, hold the Bible in your hand so that you become familiar with it, even the feel of it, the weight of it, and take down notes as you learn, you will be able to retain more than you probably otherwise could, certainly more than if you used an electronic version of the Bible.

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I've been taking notes in church for years while following along in the Bible with the Pastor preaching. I like to highlight in my Bible and make little notes in Bible. I got my KJV Bible at Dollar General for $10 and it's large print thank goodness! Not a very good concordance though and no maps.

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