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      Psalms 119:1-8                                         Sep. 5 - Oct. 2, 2019
      1 ALEPH. Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD.
      2 Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, and that seek him with the whole heart.
      3 They also do no iniquity: they walk in his ways.
      4 Thou hast commanded us to keep thy precepts diligently.
      5 O that my ways were directed to keep thy statutes!
      6 Then shall I not be ashamed, when I have respect unto all thy commandments.
      7 I will praise thee with uprightness of heart, when I shall have learned thy righteous judgments.
      8 I will keep thy statutes: O forsake me not utterly.
      The following verse stood out to me...
      5 O that my ways were directed to keep thy statutes!
      At first glance it seemed to me this person’s soul is poured out with intense desire to have God’s direction in keeping His Word.
      I made a small wood fire in our backyard for my granddaughter, Julia, since she would be staying overnight with us. My wife and Julia stayed outside at the fire for about half an hour. Then, I found myself alone to watch the fire die out on a particularly lovely evening. So I took my verse from above and began to repeat it for memorization. As I repeated the verse, I tried to contemplate the words and apply them to what I was seeing around me. 
      The moon and stars were out now peering through the scattered clouds above.
      [Genesis 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. Genesis 1:17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, Genesis 1:18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.]
      Thought 1         
      The moon has stayed his course since the day God created him, also the stars, obeying the statutes directed by God from the first day they were created. Can you imagine God’s direction to the Moon and stars, “moon you will have a path through the sky above the earth, stars you will occupy the firmament above the moon and be clearly visible in the cloudless night sky.”
      Then, the trees, grass, even the air we breathe obey the statues God gave them from the beginning. None of these creations have souls, none have hearts, none have intelligence, but they all observe God’s statutes, His instructions for their limited time on earth.
      Thought 2
      What if we were like the moon, stars, trees, grass, or the other creations which have no soul? We would be directed to keep God’s statutes without choosing to keep them. This is not the image of God, there would be no dominion over other creatures, or over the earth. We would not be capable of experiencing the joy and peace of learning the love of God
      Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
      Philippians 4:7 And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
      Thought 3 (October 2, 2019)
      Is the psalmist pleading God to force God’s statutes to become the man’s ways? No, he is speaking of his own failure in keeping God’s statutes and his desire to keep them, very much like Paul in Romans 7:14-25.
      God doesn’t work through force to turn men from their ways that they would desire His statutes or desire God Himself. Men must reject (repent) put aside his own ways and voluntarily seek God and His statutes.

I'm A Cambridge 1769Er And Will Remain So.

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I've always used the 1769 KJV published by Cambridge Press. Yes, Cambridge began publishing the 1769 version first put out by Oxford. 

 

If you don't like my preference for the 1769 or if you want to make some derogatory remark, then please don't reply to this thread.

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What's the point of the post if discussion is limited to agreement only? As to the KJB you use, I'm very pleased if that's the one which works best for you. It's very good to have a Bible in hand that serves well.

 

General question: Is the particular KJB one uses now a major issue? Do we now have approved KJBs and KJBs which are considered inferior?

 

Asking the questions because of the recent postings regarding what particular KJB one uses, and in some posts in other threads, at least the inference that certain KJBs are superior to others.

 

I do know of a few online who hold to one particular KJB and consider all other KJBs to be corrupted.

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What's the point of the post if discussion is limited to agreement only? As to the KJB you use, I'm very pleased if that's the one which works best for you. It's very good to have a Bible in hand that serves well.

 

General question: Is the particular KJB one uses now a major issue? Do we now have approved KJBs and KJBs which are considered inferior?

 

Asking the questions because of the recent postings regarding what particular KJB one uses, and in some posts in other threads, at least the inference that certain KJBs are superior to others.

 

I do know of a few online who hold to one particular KJB and consider all other KJBs to be corrupted.

Exactly my point.

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I've always used the 1769 KJV published by Cambridge Press. Yes, Cambridge began publishing the 1769 version first put out by Oxford. 

 

If you don't like my preference for the 1769 or if you want to make some derogatory remark, then please don't reply to this thread.

Please don't feel I am being deragotory when I compare the various editions of the KJV. You clearly know that the 1769 is one of the major revisions and hence is important in the historical line of KJV publications. I love the 1909 Scofield because I love Curtis Hudson and he has used the Scofield and other preachers I know  that have used the Scofield, but that get's compared also. I love Carl Hatch and Ron Gearis and the Rock of Ages Ministry, but I'm comparing their edition also. I liked my little collection of KJV reference bibles (Defender's Study Bible, Life Application Study Bible, etc.) that I've put together over the last 20 years but they're getting compared also. BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE DONE. It is time for the children of God to look at publishers that are part of this world system and ask if they have been good custodians of the word of God.

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I've always used the 1769 KJV published by Cambridge Press. Yes, Cambridge began publishing the 1769 version first put out by Oxford. 

 

If you don't like my preference for the 1769 or if you want to make some derogatory remark, then please don't reply to this thread.

 

Why did you choose that one Dave over the others?

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Why did you choose that one Dave over the others?

 

The 1769 KJV is preached from more IFB Pulpits than any other...(1) consistency (2) it is considered by most to be the AV of the day.

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The 1769 KJV is preached from more IFB Pulpits than any other...(1) consistency (2) it is considered by most to be the AV of the day.

 

Ok, do you or anyone here know of anything negative about the 1873 Cambridge Paragraph KJV?

 

I have both but like the layout of this gift that my wife got for me, it's a Hendrickson Minister's Bible.  I was going to order from Local Church BIble Publishers but they did not offer the layout that I like, the references in the center.  However, if it's wicked, it goes in the trash!

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Ok, do you or anyone here know of anything negative about the 1873 Cambridge Paragraph KJV?

 

I have both but like the layout of this gift that my wife got for me, it's a Hendrickson Minister's Bible.  I was going to order from Local Church BIble Publishers but they did not offer the layout that I like, the references in the center.  However, if it's wicked, it goes in the trash!

I think I know of a 12 minute video about the Paragraph, was that from Scrivener or Norton? I'll post the video if you want. Does Hebrews 10:23 say "faith" or "hope" ? Is 1 John 5:7 in italics? Hosea 6:5 Showed, Shown, Shewed, or Hewed in the first part of the verse?

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I think I know of a 12 minute video about the Paragraph, was that from Scrivener or Norton? I'll post the video if you want. Does Hebrews 10:23 say "faith" or "hope" ? Is 1 John 5:7 in italics? Hosea 6:5 Showed, Shown, Shewed, or Hewed in the first part of the verse?

faith

no italics

hewed

 

Thru The Bible Radio, Thomas Nelson Publishers, 1976

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faith

no italics

hewed

 

Thru The Bible Radio, Thomas Nelson Publishers, 1976

B) Well, Thanks for checking but I was checking to see if swathdiver had the Paragraph Bible I thought. I really appreciate everyone who is looking up some of the references on the other thread. One thing proved so far is that some publishers have made errors/changes but it is fairly determinable what belongs or the actual KJV text should be.

 

Ok, do you or anyone here know of anything negative about the 1873 Cambridge Paragraph KJV?

 

I have both but like the layout of this gift that my wife got for me, it's a Hendrickson Minister's Bible.  I was going to order from Local Church BIble Publishers but they did not offer the layout that I like, the references in the center.  However, if it's wicked, it goes in the trash!

I thought local church publishers had a center column option?

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I think I know of a 12 minute video about the Paragraph, was that from Scrivener or Norton? I'll post the video if you want. Does Hebrews 10:23 say "faith" or "hope" ? Is 1 John 5:7 in italics? Hosea 6:5 Showed, Shown, Shewed, or Hewed in the first part of the verse?

 

I started watching the link but was interrupted by family several times, will try again tomorrow.  Mine says both faith and hope in that verse, No Italics in 1 John 5:7 and Hewed in Hosea 6:5.  What's all that mean anyways?

 

 

I thought local church publishers had a center column option?

 

There was something about it I didn't like, maybe the wide margins or small print.  That was several years ago too.

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I started watching the link but was interrupted by family several times, will try again tomorrow.  Mine says both faith and hope in that verse, No Italics in 1 John 5:7 and Hewed in Hosea 6:5.  What's all that mean anyways?

 

 

There was something about it I didn't like, maybe the wide margins or small print.  That was several years ago too.

 

Hebrews 10:23 it is "faith" without writing the word "hope" in:

 

AV 1611

Cambridge 1637

KJV printed by Baskett 1728

KJV Oxford 1769

KJV American Bible Society Printing 1840

KJV Pure Cambridge Edition around 1900

KJV Scofield 1909

KJV Key Word Study Bible 1991 AMG Publishers

KJV Ryrie Study Bible 1994 Moody Bible Institute

KJV The Defenders Study Bible 1995 World Bible Publishers

KJV Tim Lahaye Prophecy Study Bible 2000 AMG Publishers

KJV 2002 Thompson Chan reference

Bearing Precious Seed 2004 KJV Bible

KJV Life Application Study Bible 2004 Tyndale House

KJV published by Nelson before 2006

 

The word hope is in:

NONE

 

Thus, I personally would not consider that bible a King James Version as it differs unanimously.

 

 

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 This is what the 1873 Cambridge says:   "Let us hold fast the profession of our hope without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;)" - Hebrews 10:23

 

 

Ultimately you will have to decide if the 47 translators of the KJV were "good" enough (their biographies/info can be downloaded free) or was it necessary for the paragraph bible author(s) to correct them? As a christian do you feel a "correction" was due in Hebrews 10:23? I would put that bible in front of me and ask God what He thinks. Ultimately we have to decide for ourselves (1) Assuming God then would he choose to use a book for communication? (2) If the answer is yes then it would be worthwile to determine where that book is, and, (3) once you find that Book treat it the way it deserves to be treated (and (4) how would you feel about people changing the words in that book?)

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What's the point of the post if discussion is limited to agreement only? As to the KJB you use, I'm very pleased if that's the one which works best for you. It's very good to have a Bible in hand that serves well.

 

General question: Is the particular KJB one uses now a major issue? Do we now have approved KJBs and KJBs which are considered inferior?

 

Asking the questions because of the recent postings regarding what particular KJB one uses, and in some posts in other threads, at least the inference that certain KJBs are superior to others.

 

I do know of a few online who hold to one particular KJB and consider all other KJBs to be corrupted.

 

John you have hit on an important point.  To make the statement that the "PCE" is the pure KJV edition is to say that the others are impure.  Who here would like to make the claim that the KJV you have in your hand is not?

Due diligence to insure you have a KJV is important.  To ascertain that the one you have is corrupt because of an "s" or an "S" implies that all others are corrupt.  In the context what is 1 John 5:8 discussing?  Should that be capitalized?  

I have Bibles that contain both and after spending time in prayer, and study.  I have come to the conclusion that God has led me to.  

What does more damage to God's Word?  Claiming that some of the editions of the KJV is corrupt or using your Bible to study to show yourself approved.  I agree with I am Chief and John81.  Use your Bible. 

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Huh?  Is that you 2T3:16 or a quote?

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