Administrators Pastor Matt Posted October 26, 2008 Administrators Share Posted October 26, 2008 I moved this topic in here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Anon Posted October 26, 2008 Members Share Posted October 26, 2008 Yikes. Hey Rachel wanted to say John the Baptist was another good example. Nobody seemed to notice the Esau and Jacob one...guess they had no answer for it. I will say again, where its safe...LOL...Ruckman lacks fruit of salvation IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members deafnva77 Posted October 26, 2008 Members Share Posted October 26, 2008 I wonder how many changed their mind about abortion (or life in the womb) after Ruckman spoke about it. I mean, did they believe abortion is murder before ruckman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LindaR Posted October 26, 2008 Members Share Posted October 26, 2008 Do we now have 2 Ruckman threads? Bro Matt...please delete my post in the other Ruckman thread...thanks. I haven't listened to that message on Ruckman yet, will do so after church and then I will post. But I pretty much know from another forum what Ruckman believes about abortion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted October 26, 2008 Members Share Posted October 26, 2008 Yikes. Hey Rachel wanted to say John the Baptist was another good example. Nobody seemed to notice the Esau and Jacob one...guess they had no answer for it. I will say again, where its safe...LOL...Ruckman lacks fruit of salvation IMO. Yes, great examples. The Bible is rather clear (and even science confirms) that life begins at conception and beyond that, full human life begins at conception and unborn babies have souls prior to birth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Anon Posted October 26, 2008 Members Share Posted October 26, 2008 As a matter of fact, the idea that baby John jumped about baby Jesus being there tells me Jesus was already in His human body, meaning the unborn baby has a soul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rancher824 Posted October 26, 2008 Members Share Posted October 26, 2008 It seems to me that if all a "fetus" has is animal life, than there would be no more wrong in having an abortion than killing an animal. There would be nothing that sad about it. Just another animal!!! But the Baby (note I did not say fetus this time) my wife is carrying is a human, heart mind and soul!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Something that has always bothered me about TV shows and movies, is when they refer to an unborn child as a fetus. That word is so impersonal and shows lack of empathy to me. An unborn baby is a living, breathing, soul...living inside their mother's womb. God calls an unborn child "fruit of the womb." How a person can degrade that...is preposterous. What country is it that the child is already 9 months old when he/she is born? Japan is it? I know it is an Asian country, anyways. How we Americans can show such lack for human life is...disgusting. An innocent unborn child...and, born...if Obama gets into office, as POTUS; is a CHILD...a beautiful, helpless baby!! :smile We are playing with Almighty God on this one...and, countless other sins. God help us as a nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted October 27, 2008 Members Share Posted October 27, 2008 As a matter of fact' date=' the idea that baby John jumped about baby Jesus being there tells me Jesus was already in His human body, meaning the unborn baby has a soul.[/quote'] :clap: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Did BroMatt move this into the IFB forum? I hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bakershalfdozen Posted October 27, 2008 Members Share Posted October 27, 2008 Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 That's good. Privacy...you know? I didn't realize that Ruckman was such a loony. WOW...he has really changed since the beginning of his days. No wonder my FIL had me listening to his earlier tapes years ago. He wasn't touched, then. This is so sad. He needs to be removed from the pulpit. As my pastor says about himself...when he is no longer effective, he wants to be put out to pasture. He says "Remove me, PLEASE!" David Cloud is right on the money about Ruckman. :thumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JerryNumbers Posted October 27, 2008 Members Share Posted October 27, 2008 Something that has always bothered me about TV shows and movies' date=' is when they refer to an unborn child as a fetus. That word is so impersonal and shows lack of empathy to me. An unborn baby is a living, breathing, soul...living inside their mother's womb. God calls an unborn child "fruit of the womb." How a person can degrade that...is preposterous. What country is it that the child is already 9 months old when he/she is born? Japan is it? I know it is an Asian country, anyways. How we Americans can show such lack for human life is...disgusting. An innocent unborn child...and, born...if Obama gets into office, as POTUS; is a CHILD...a beautiful, helpless baby!! :smile We are playing with Almighty God on this one...and, countless other sins. God help us as a nation. I must say, I literally hate that word, it sounds vulgar to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JerryNumbers Posted October 27, 2008 Members Share Posted October 27, 2008 As a matter of fact' date=' the idea that baby John jumped about baby Jesus being there tells me Jesus was already in His human body, meaning the unborn baby has a soul.[/quote'] Can't we take a little bit larger step on this. Lu 1:41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the HOLY GHOST: After all this baby was filled with the Holy Ghost before he was born. Thought, perhaps a different topic would be needed. Would this be an example of the different working of the Holy Ghost before the Holy Ghost was sent on the day of Pentecost? At this time it was still working as it did in the Old Testament days. Right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Anon Posted October 27, 2008 Members Share Posted October 27, 2008 Yeah it was still Old Testament times....God had a special purpose for John the Baptist. I don't think it said John was filled with the Holy Ghost though, just his mom, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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