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Well, part of me wants to sigh...and then part of me wants to tell them go for it!!!

The "empowerment" idea is silly, really, since there are so many blacks in major positions of leadership. But what they are trying to do is actually a principle of the free market system. We all pick and choose where we buy for certain reasons. I know, if a white couple were doing this same thing, there would be accusations of shocking racism. I say good luck to them, even though their motivation is possibly a racist one.

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What aggravated me is when they said "Our people have been here for 400 years and they don't even own a Walgreens". "Our people"? I thought in America, everyone was "our people".

THAT is RACIST.

Whites aren't allowed to call other whites "our people" are we? Or refuse to patronize black businesses?

Its just annoying. Whites are supposed to be "color blind" but the others can speak and behave however they like.

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I don't find this racist. It is no different than a member of my church vowing only to buy from Christian people. It is helping out their local black community.

It is no different than me trying to buy 100% local food. Keeping the money local. I have no problem with this. I try to shop and spend money with people I know, not the big box stores, even if I have to pay a bit more. Essentially, they are trying to keep their money local, or encourage other people of their race to prosper more economically.

There isn't any racism here that I see.

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kita - I can understand what you're saying. I do believe that if it were a white couple referencing "our people" it would be marked as racist. But I don't really think it is - we try to buy as much as we can from fellow Christians. That might be called discrimination...but that is the free market principle!

kindofblue - good to see you again!!!!

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I can see that...however I do maintain that as far as it beginning a "movement" I would say the "movement" would be racist...if not every individual, but as a whole.

Again...I'd like to see whites try it. Regardless of any of that, the fact it even made the news tells me that at least somebody is trying to stir up racism against whites by getting more blacks away from white businesses.

Its true alot of people do that...gays do it, Christians do it, etc....but THIS one made the news...interesting. Especially in Chicago, especially during the reign of Obama...Hmmm.

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I can see that...however I do maintain that as far as it beginning a "movement" I would say the "movement" would be racist...if not every individual, but as a whole.

Again...I'd like to see whites try it. Regardless of any of that, the fact it even made the news tells me that at least somebody is trying to stir up racism against whites by getting more blacks away from white businesses.

Its true alot of people do that...gays do it, Christians do it, etc....but THIS one made the news...interesting. Especially in Chicago, especially during the reign of Obama...Hmmm.


Yeah, I know what you mean, Kita. My sil (who is black) told me about this double standard years ago, so it has been this way for a long time, it is just not publicized. I do think they have the right to buy from whomever they wish, though, just like HC said, we Christians could do the exact same thing, and buy from only other Christians. I told my hubby that one upside is that in their efforts they will likely be "buying American"....and that is a good thing.
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Did these folks ever think about setting an example and starting their OWN 'black' business? That's the wonderful thing about America; they can do it...and the government will even help minorities to do it. At my last job, I worked in a factory with a couple hundred black people. A black man had hired me. After over ten years of saving my money and doing my business from home 'on the side', making the same and less than some of them, I quit my hourly job and ventured out on my own. The point being; any one of the black folk I worked with could have, and did, do the same. I have been self employed now, as a sign builder, for almost ten years. In my line of work, about 99% of my customers are other businesses and I have noticed that a good many of those businesses are owned and run by blacks. I have lots of black customers.

Some of my black customers are truck drivers with their own rigs, others have landscaping businesses, lawn care , heavy equipment, concrete finishing, politicians, one of my black customers has an ice cream truck and her husband has his own logging operation. Another black man, I know, owns a KFC franchise. One of my black neighbors runs a mechanic business and another neighbor and friend of mine is a building contractor....his wife is a physician with her own practice. There are at least three black attorneys with their own practices in my small community; I just met with one of those in my office last week. A black preacher friend of mine does all his business with me and has sent many others my way. They all stop by and we fellowship in the Lord. I'm doing word for Bro. Tony right now.

Why do we concentrate on more division? Why can't some people forget the 'color' thing and just be Americans? America is a free country, nobody is stopping you from starting your own business.

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Oh okay, we had some black friends in NJ, he is a pastor but he just moved to Pensacola to further his degree and work in a church there, his name is Tony so had to ask. :-)

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How in the world is that NOT racist? Exactly how Orwellian can we be?



Until the bottom completely falls out. :coffee We are a "melting pot" of different cultures... but, some people still can't see that. If people want to talk about racist? Talk to a Jewish person. They'll tell you ALL about it. These people don't recall the Holocaust. :( I am soooo tired of this. I lived through racism at it's finest... and kept my mouth shut for years. And, I'm still living through it. Reverse discrimination has been going on for years. Now, that the USA has Obama... every TRUE liberal wants to jump on the bandwagon. The USSA... oh, yeah. Very soon.

Kindofblue... I have too AA friends, as you know. The one gal is a fine Christian woman and still says Obama is the Anti-Christ. My other friend is an Independent, again. She said she won't vote Democrat... ever again. Her conscience won't allow it... she says. I have to calm my one friend down... and, let her know that Obama is NOT the Anti-Christ. We are almost there, though. :( That is reality. Btw, they call me to vent. I just listen. :smile

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I will not buy from someone based on the color of ones skin.

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.


Looks like Martin Luthers dream has not come true yet if people will not buy from a store based on the color of the owners skin.
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I will not buy from someone based on the color of ones skin.



Looks like Martin Luthers dream has not come true yet if people will not buy from a store based on the color of the owners skin.



I don't think it's right to buy based on skin color. But I still say that free market allows for that - supply and demand.
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If we truly had a free market then anyone who owns a business could determine who they would and wouldn't deal with based upon whatever they wanted to base such upon...and this was once the case. However, this no longer applies due to various laws that have been passed over the past 40 or so years.

I've heard this talk in black churches, from black professors and from black Muslims over the years. This is nothing new.

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Yeah,
It's sad.......
We also had Jim Crow Laws then too.
Most people just won't do right on their own, so government ends up forcing them to do so......and we lose another piece of freedom each time.
Then we all fuss about that.

I do business with black people, white people, Indians, Hispanics........it don't matter. I treat them right, treat them with respect, they come back and send others my way. I am a white businessman...these people seem to have no problem with that. I would even hire some minorities if my business was large enough. The people in the article have a burr in their saddle, or a nail in their craw for some reason or other. Maybe they've been mistreated and have let it turn them into 'haters'. How sad to feel that way.

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Yeah..I have no problem working with anyone of any race...I make cakes for pretty much anyone (unless the cake itself is against my convictions) and I buy from whoever as well...I don't look at the color of the skin of the checkout person or whatever. I think its crazy. I mean yeah, we try to do business with Christians or whatever but we aren't going to make it some kind of way of life that we refuse to do business with anyone else.

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I will not buy from someone based on the color of ones skin.



Looks like Martin Luthers dream has not come true yet if people will not buy from a store based on the color of the owners skin.


Yes... and, it is sad that he is not alive to see this. He would be quite upset. "Content of character" is everything. This color of one's skin is really disturbing. Again... the USA is the "great melting pot" of all cultures. This is pure discrimination.

I do business with black people' date=' white people, Indians, Hispanics........it don't matter. I treat them right, treat them with respect, they come back and send others my way. I am a white businessman...these people seem to have no problem with that. I would even hire some minorities if my business was large enough. The people in the article have a burr in their saddle, or a nail in their craw for some reason or other. Maybe they've been mistreated and have let it turn them into 'haters'. How sad to feel that way.[/quote']

Yep. Me too! As it should be. My hubby discriminates against NO one in his business. When I taught school... I NEVER did, either.

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We all pick and choose where we are going to buy for our own reasons. And stores cater to whatever reasons the owners decide to follow, for whatever clientelle they want. Even business owners do that. So why can't these people? They don't have freedom of choice to buy from people of the same skin color if they so choose? I know, the idea is kind of repugnant, because we all know what would be said if white people came out and said they only bought from white people. But the fact remains that there is nothing inherently wrong with what they are doing.

Some shops cater to women. Some to men. Some to children. Exclusively. So, if they are encouraging blacks to become business owners, why is that wrong? Most likely, if a white person wanted to buy from them, they'd sell. If not, it's their business.

Do I think it's right to "discriminate" on the basis of skin color? No - actually, I think it's kinda childish. But I do think the folks in the article have a right to patronize the businesses they want to. For whatever reason they choose. Just as any of us do.

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I know' date=' the idea is kind of repugnant, because we all know what would be said if white people came out and said they only bought from white people. But the fact remains that there is nothing inherently wrong with what they are doing. [/quote']


Except for the fact... that ALL other people are excluded. Whites did that... and they got "called on the carpet" for it. As it should be... might I add. Why are these people any different? Skin color... that is all. We are ALL human beings. Each one of us has a conscience and a soul. When I taught in the Cleveland Municipal School District? Anyone that wasn't AA was called an "Other"... when I took attendance. That is pure discrimination... right there.

John made a good point. This is really nothing new. However, now we are going to be segregated again? I can see that one coming in the soon to be USSA. :( I don't agree with segregation of cultures... and I never will. The Preamble of the Constitution in our nation... as you know, begins with "We the people..." That doesn't mean the color of one's skin. It means ALL people. Again... it is all about person's "character" not the color of their skin.

God bless,

Molly
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Yes, sister, we all have rights...but that doesn't make every one of them 'right'. Jesus could have went around Samaria one day because he wanted to visit only Jews, but I'm glad He wasn't that way.

Excerpts from the article:

Maggie Anderson said. "It's like, my people have been here 400 years and we don't even have a Walgreens to show for it."
Well, I don't know if there are any black owned Walgreens...is that even possible? is Walgreens a franchise? There's a black-owned KFC just down the road from my office, and at least two black-owned law firms. My black neighbor is a physician and her husband owns a construction business. How would this couple react if white folk did the same? What's going to happen if a white business owner decides he only wants whites for employees?....how long would he get away with that? I've done some reading about a man named George Washington Carver, who not only helped "his people" but all of us poor folks in the south. And who helped him? Some godly white people. That's the way a Christian should do.

From a Christian perspective, "my people" are other Christians, no matter the color. From an American Christian perspective, "my people" are other Americans, no matter what color. There are, no doubt, a few thousand self employed blacks, and black-owned businesses in this country. Why doesn't thsi couple start one of them? Is what they're doing, helping to bond Americans, instead of divide us even more?


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April 16, 2009: Maggie Anderson, right, talks with Michael Hill at the black-owned Vino Libro wine bar in Atlanta.
Maybe they need to get saved and find a good Bible believing church first.
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Why don't I just start naming every race in the USA. Asian Americans, Arab Americans, Hispanic Americans, Indian Americans... etc, etc. I think you get my point, though. :))

I don't know about Walgreen's, either. All I know... is that I have ALWAYS lived in a cultural city. Hey, they could move up North. We have all cultures here... and, I am so GLAD for that.

From a Christian perspective' date=' "my people" are other Christians, no matter the color. From an American Christian perspective, "my people" are other Americans, no matter what color. There are, no doubt, a few thousand self employed blacks, and black-owned businesses in this country. Why doesn't thsi couple start one of them? Is what they're doing, helping to bond Americans, instead of divide us even more? [/quote']

Amen, heartstrings! I don't see this as "helping to bond Americans" though... although, it could. I dunno. I see it as a division... and, they do need our prayers. This nation, world, and people are ALWAYS in my prayers. :thumb Skin color... as most everyone knows, should not make any difference... whatsoever. One would think that the USA is past that point. Apparently not. :(

God bless,

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Some of your universites are teaching the students now that only whites can be racist.


Now? This has been being taught for decades! I can't even count the number of times I heard that taught when I attended university. This is also taught in many black churches, by Black Muslims and many others.

One might recall that back when America was mostly filled with those who thought of themselves as Americans, America was 90% white and most of those were descended from those who had come here to become Americans.

Since at least the 1960s, when the liberal floodgates really came wide open, blacks have been encouraged to build black pride and black unity and to look upon whites as evil. With the changing of immigration laws America became flooded with various people groups vastly different from the majority. While some of these new people groups did try to become Americans, many more chose the path of retaining another identity and viewing America as evil...which they learned from the liberal establishment.

Seeing the fruits of liberal "progess" all around us should really not surprise anyone.
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I thought this might fit better in this conversation... than in the "Humor Section."

We know that President Barack Obama is meeting with PM Binyamin Netanyahu on Monday? Here is what is going to happen. Enjoy. :smile

http://www.drybonesproject.com/blog/pag ... _3600.html

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Molly

P.S ~ Are we all going to be able to stay in the USA? lol

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No one is biting on this one? The point of this cartoon is. Unless you are Native American Indian... you can't stay in the USA. :lol:

The majority of us have to move out of the USA... :Green Where... is the question. :)

In Christ Jesus ~

Molly

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No one is biting on this one? The point of this cartoon is. Unless you are Native American Indian... you can't stay in the USA. :lol:

The majority of us have to move out of the USA... :Green Where... is the question. :)

In Christ Jesus ~

Molly



Well, I guess I can stay then... :Green My ancestors were here to help the pilgrims through that first harsh winter...
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My great grandmother referred to herself as "black Dutch" but according to family accounts, she was Indian. I don't know for sure, but pictures of her reveal a short woman with black hair and a fairly broad face with prominent cheek bones. Guess she could have been.

But I want to laugh every time I hear Native Americans portrayed as these wise environmentalists who were at one with nature, with no concept of private property, in touch with a higher spirituality and lived in perfect harmony with each other and that their Utopia was violated and destroyed by the evil, greedy white man. In fact, some practiced wastefulness, raided and stole from other tribes, claimed and took territory from other tribes by force, commited unspeakable acts in their religious practices, and were almost constantly at war with other groups, practicing torture, human sacrifice and slavery. There were many different tribes with many different languages: How do we know which tribe arrived in America first? The point being, we're ALL immigrants and we're all sinners.

We may have all come on different ships, but we're in the same boat now. Martin Luther King Jr.

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"There are strong indications that the original "Black Dutch" were swarthy complexioned Germans. Anglo-Americans loosely applied the term to any dark-complexioned American of European descent. The term was adopted as an attempt to disguise Indian or infrequently, tri-racial descent.


What I think is so funny about the term "Native American" is that ANYONE who is born in America is a native American!!! You don't hear the term "Native European" or "Native Englishman" etc. You're right, heart, the Indian society wasn't utopia!
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