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That happened because people in the past have not voted before are now compaigning for Obama, plus he got more money.

But I have also heard that Republicans had more voters than the past elections too. But it wasn't enough.

What's happening is that we have more Hispanic and black voters voting. Plus the younger generation (who were trained well in public schools) are now taking interests in voting.


you have all these people who don't believe in America (freedom of religion, speech, etc.) anymore. Who think the constitution is outdated, who think republican is just an outdated party that's just for old, white, rural people . They are more interested in socialism, especially more education and health. (I never felt today education was really about learning, it is really about how see that there is no God... I would love to know a school that will balance faith and learning, instead of a school that will say " we act this way because of evolution" )



Exactly, Angie. Well said.
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I would agree that Obama is no dummy. He's a smart guy and he knows how to run an effective campaign' date=' something that McCain and Palin bungled. And no, the government will not be dead in four years. Clinton was in for 8 years and we're still alive. Carter, of all incompetents, was president and yet we still have a fully functioning, independent stock market. Oh, I'm so tired of the conspiracies. :badday:[/quote']

I said the stock market will be dead.....they want to governmentally own the stock market, did you see that?
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LAF the Republicans were sitting home boycotting the election' date=' probably. :roll[/quote']


Completely disgusted is more like it. :gross: These Libs (these days---post LBJ administration) are obnoxious and out of control! They have their hands out for everything! Anything and everything for the poor people. Just give em' a govt. check...and, of course... screamin' at the messenger (mail person---politically correct, you see) when it doesn't arrive on time. Floating through life like morons. What a way to live. *wow* We will see what their "chosen one" obama will do? Ooops....I forgot, they will be blinded like they always are. Go figure? The word stupidity comes to mind. He is a bright shiny penny who is going to shine...until it they (hopefully) see that they have been had.

Yeah...and they are sooo charitable. As HC says...with everyone else's money...that is. :clap:

Oh...might I add, they have gotten many hard working people to sink to their level...in the "name of welfare" after all. :bonK:
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I think Obama clearly has the leadership to lead this country. He organized and built a tremendously successful Presidential campaign. Palin did not. She was chosen to come along for a ride. Obama is extremely intellegent' date=' is a great thinker, was President of the Harvard Law Review, and is very well versed in domestic and international affairs. I know that Palin didn't run a presidentail campaign...she wasn't running for president, which is why it's so funny that the media went after her like they did. Yes, BO is intelligent. He sure is versed in international affairs...after all, $60 million of his campaign money came from ILLEGAL foreign contributions...either he knew about it (and I believe he did), or he didn't have control of his campaign like people think he did....

Do you really think Palin, who could not name one Supreme Court case other than Roe v. Wade that she disagreed with, is well enough versed in domestic and international affiars to be able to make informed decisions? That was my biggest concern with her. I do believe she was a liability for the McCain campaign.Why don't you read the book, kind, and maybe that will answer some of your questions. She was not a liability to the campaign, she was a boost, and it was proven statistically with those who voted for McCain, and why they did...and even some who voted for Obama who said they almost voted for McCain - because of her!!! As far as Sarah "could not name..." - I think she chose not to...they were going after her in a horrible way (even many in the media admitted it was unfair), in a way that no other politician has been treated, in a way that Hillary would never have faced...I don't blame her for thumbing her nose at them! Answers that she did give were edited out!

Agree or disagree with Obama's policies, I think he has proven his leadership ability through his campaign. It is no easy task to build a broad base of support among many different groups, to raise that kind of money, and to pave the road to the White House. He knew what he was doing when he was elected Senator and went to accomplish that task. And he achieved it.The support that BO raised came, in many instances, illegally. What did he accomplish when he was elected senator? Name one bill he sponsored that was passed.

He can be a tremendous role model for millions of young black children. If Obama, who grew up without a father, grew up in a working class family, could go to Harvard Law School, be elected as the President of the law review, play a large role in local politics, and move on to national politics and now be elected to the highest office in the land, what can they do? He is a tremendous example of what anyone in this country can acheive through hard work. I am excited about having a President who young people can look up to as a role model. His story is exceptional, agree or disagree with his policy stances. BO went to Harvard Law School on the money raised by a Black Panther associate (al Mansour). Yes, he is an example...but not one I'd want my child to follow. Granted, he became POTUS. And spent $650 million dollars doing it...(after signing a paper saying he would take public financing and then reneging)


You know, I truly wish that BO was what he has presented himself to be. Then I could celebrate the historic fact of the first (half)black man to be POTUS. But he isn't. And I'm not celebrating.

Conspiracies, Kevin? What conspiracies? Fact is fact, man. Obama has marxian philosophies. The ony redeeming thing about his pick of Rahm Emanuel is that Rahm may keep him from going completely into the socialist agenda. Although that is well started with this bailout that both McCain and Obama supported. And it will continue.

As far as the bungled McCain campaign - McCain had it right when he said he was the one who failed. The reason he didn't make it wasn't due to Palin (those who think it is need to look at the stats again - not projections, but stats of those who voted for him BECAUSE of her, and those who almost didn't vote for BO, BECAUSE of her). The reason he didn't make it was because of himself. Plain and simple. He's not conservative, and many conservatives jumped ship because of it.
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I think Obama clearly has the leadership to lead this country. He organized and built a tremendously successful Presidential campaign. Palin did not. She was chosen to come along for a ride. Obama is extremely intellegent, is a great thinker, was President of the Harvard Law Review, and is very well versed in domestic and international affairs.

Do you really think Palin, who could not name one Supreme Court case other than Roe v. Wade that she disagreed with, is well enough versed in domestic and international affiars to be able to make informed decisions? That was my biggest concern with her. I do believe she was a liability for the McCain campaign.

Agree or disagree with Obama's policies, I think he has proven his leadership ability through his campaign. It is no easy task to build a broad base of support among many different groups, to raise that kind of money, and to pave the road to the White House. He knew what he was doing when he was elected Senator and went to accomplish that task. And he achieved it.

He can be a tremendous role model for millions of young black children. If Obama, who grew up without a father, grew up in a working class family, could go to Harvard Law School, be elected as the President of the law review, play a large role in local politics, and move on to national politics and now be elected to the highest office in the land, what can they do? He is a tremendous example of what anyone in this country can acheive through hard work. I am excited about having a President who young people can look up to as a role model. His story is exceptional, agree or disagree with his policy stances.


KOB---maybe you and Kevin have a more positive outlook on this President Elect. I truly understand that the man did not have the best of lives. Yes...he is extremely intelligent. That is for sure!

I just cannot rationalize in my mind how any "true" blood-bought born again believer can vote for a person who has the MOST liberal record of murdering the unborn. And, the cults in this nation are multiplying in droves? Are you seeing my point here? I have only known a couple of Bible-believing Christians (up north) to vote Democrat. We vote Republican---I am finding out, based on the "abortion" issue. I was raised in the RCC---as you are probably aware, and I was raised pro-life---when that became an issue. The devout RCC people are disgusted with this election---based on that fact. God is the giver and taker of life.

I am very puzzled with your thought process. Kevin is in his early 20's, very youthful---are you? I am asking an honest question, here. BTW, although, my son is 17, and is in high school, they did a mock election, and he voted McCain/Palin. He explained why to me. He told me last week. He brought up the conversation to me. I don't discuss politics with him. I am hoping he is learning from example, though.
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"we're told....we're told...." Seems that no-one is admitting they heard SP say Africa was a country' date=' just that staffers said...[/quote']

Of course, no proof. LOL. BTW, my African-American Administrator (principal) when I was teaching in the inner city in Cleveland ALWAYS said Africa was a country. Do you think anyone ever corrected her? Nope. That would be so disrespectful to a person in authority.

:goodpost: HC--- All around!!
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I don't think it's a good thing to learn ideas by example. I believe it's important for every person to think through the issues for themselves and decide what they believe is right based on the facts. That is why a lot of people spend their whole lives in false religions or wacky organizations, they just follow the example given them. Most of my friends my age, older, and younger supported McCain, mostly because of Palin. I don't think it's youth as much as it is opinions and having one's own ideas. I don't believe in going with the flow(just in case you didn't know :frog ).

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I don't think it's a good thing to learn ideas by example. I believe it's important for every person to think through the issues for themselves and decide what they believe is right based on the facts. That is why a lot of people spend their whole lives in false religions or wacky organizations' date=' they just follow the example given them. Most of my friends my age, older, and younger supported McCain, mostly because of Palin. I don't think it's youth as much as it is opinions and having one's own ideas. I don't believe in going with the flow(just in case you didn't know :frog ).[/quote']

Good thoughts, Kevin. Although, many who supported McCain because of Palin did so primarily because she stood for what many people believe.

For instance, my hubby and I were torn at first. We knew we would not vote for Obama, for many, many reasons. One of the premiere reasons was his absolute dearth of any conscience when it comes to abortion. We don't like a majority of McCain's policies, but he at least is mostly pro-life (he comes down on the side that says in the case of incest or rape...). Had he chosen Tom Ridge, who is pro-abortion (pro-choice is the same thing, in our opinions), we would not have voted for him, as much as we hated the idea of Obama winning - we would have either not voted for POTUS, or voted third party.

When he chose Palin, we were happy to find out that she was pro-life, pro-gun, and a Christian - and not ashamed of that fact. So, that influenced our decision greatly.

You're right, it isn't always youth...but it is true that many young people are easily swayed - precisely because of what you said - they haven't researched issues and looked into things. Decisions are based on emotions many times. Or on great thoughts - like the idea of the first black POTUS. That is an alluring thought, but it isn't something that should be the basis for a decision, although it was in many, many cases.
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Michele Malkin is good:

The Cowardly Character Assassination of Sarah Palin
Sunken ships loosen bitter lips. The failed McCain campaign, for all its high-minded talk of honor, duty and courage, is now teeming with unscrupulous gossipmongers. Seems the dishy staffers forgot to crack open their copies of Sen. McCain's bestseller, "Character Is Destiny: Inspiring Stories Every Young Person Should Know and Every Adult Should Remember."

Rest assured: Their cowardly character assassination of Sarah Palin won't be forgotten.

The finks turned to Newsweek and Fox News to spread petty rumors about Palin's intellect and character. The magazine peddled anecdotes from sources horrified that Palin greeted top advisers at her hotel room -- gasp! -- "wearing nothing but a towel" and "wet hair." Fox News reporter Carl Cameron breathlessly reported that his unnamed McCain sources told him Palin lacked "a degree of knowledgeability necessary to be a running mate" because, they claimed, she didn't know which countries were parties to the North American Free Trade Agreement and "didn't understand that Africa was a continent, rather than a series, a country just in itself."

Let's assume for a moment that the McCain rumormongers are telling the truth about Palin (and I don't believe they are). Who would it damn more: Palin, or McCain and his vetters, who greenlighted her for the vice presidential nomination? Don't need a fancy Ivy League degree to figure that one out.

In introducing her to America, McCain praised her independence and backbone: She "stands up for what's right, and she doesn't let anyone tell her to sit down." The inside snipers are now roasting her for that very attribute -- redefined as "going rogue" -- because she had the nerve to try to schedule media interviews on her own. The nerve of her!

Palin's response to the campaign fragging? At a late Wednesday night airport press conference in Anchorage, immediately upon landing home after the election defeat, she smiled cheerfully. The Alaska governor shrugged off the "foolish things" said by the McCain saboteurs, and simply said, "It's politics. ? It's rough and tumble and you've got to have a thick skin just like I've got."

Hollywood savaged Palin. Journalists mocked her. Liberal blogs slimed her. Opponents cursed her, Photoshopped her, hacked her e-mail, hanged her in effigy, called her bigot, Bible-thumper and bimbo, and attacked her husband and children. But nothing Palin endured during the election season compares to the treatment she's receiving from these backstabbing blabbermouths who worked on the same campaign she poured herself into over the last three months.

Sarah Palin worked her heart out. She energized tens of thousands to come out when they would have otherwise stayed home. She touched countless families. I didn't agree with everything she said on the campaign trail. But she vigorously defended the Second Amendment and the sanctity of life more eloquently in practice than any of the educated conservative aristocracy. And she did it all with a tirelessness and an infectious optimism that defied the shameless, bottomless attempts by elites in both parties to bring her and her family down.

Liberty needs a virtuous people to survive; self-governance requires virtuous leaders. "Knowledgeability" is a necessary trait in political life, but it is not sufficient. The elitist critics of Palin, so blindly enamored of Barack Obama's ability to hold forth for hours on theologian Reinhold Niebuhr, ignored the Founding Fathers' counsel: Character counts. In times of adversity and crisis, it counts more than IQ points, instant trivia recall and bloviation skills.

"The most important thing I have learned, from my parents, from teachers, from my faith, from many good people I have been blessed to know, and from the lives of people whose stories we have included in this book," John McCain wrote in "Character Is Destiny," "is to want what they had, integrity, and to feel the sting of my conscience when I have risked it for some selfish reason."

John McCain not only failed to make that message stick with the electorate, he apparently couldn't persuade his own staff to heed his advice and practice what he preached.

http://townhall.com/columnists/Michelle ... arah_palin
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Matt Lewis has an interesting take:

Last night, CNN's Campbell Brown had this to say about the attacks on Sarah Palin:


"I find it so stunning that the very people who introduced us to Sarah Palin, who told us she would make a great Vice President, have now turned on her with a vengeance..."
Yes, that does sound "stunning." So stunning, in fact, that it is unbelievable.

... How do I know the attacks on Palin are a calculated preemptive strike from supporters of a potential 2012 Palin foe -- not from a McCain loyalist? Aside from my personal knowledge that some of this stuff (not necessarily the Newsweek leaks, but other mockery) is coming from supporters of a potential competitor -- it also makes perfect sense.

Even if the attacks on Palin were true (they are not), no McCain loyalist would ever leak this stuff -- because an attack on Palin is also an indictment on McCain's judgment.

The attacks are coming from disgruntled McCain staffers, to be sure, but these folks have other loyalties ...

http://townhall.com/blog/g/3836c4df-376 ... 589096f6ea

But Palin was the problem, right? Nope:

Despite the onslaught of unflattering stories being leaked to the media from McCain staffers about Sarah Palin's allegedly unsavory behavior behind closed doors through the campaign, she remains incredibly popular among Republicans.

Rasmussen Reports found a whopping 91 percent of Republicans retain a favorable view of the former vice presidential candidate.

Palin's name also ranked at the top of those Republicans would consider to become their GOP's 2012 presidential nominee. 64 percent said Palin would be their top choice. Mike Huckabee came in far behind at second with only 12 percent and Mitt Romney netted 11 percent.

Bobby Jindal, Charlie Crist and Tim Pawlenty were also mentioned as future contenders, but only ranked support in the single digits.

http://townhall.com/blog/g/bc28441f-578 ... Descending
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I think Obama clearly has the leadership to lead this country. He organized and built a tremendously successful Presidential campaign. Palin did not. She was chosen to come along for a ride. Obama is extremely intellegent, is a great thinker, was President of the Harvard Law Review, and is very well versed in domestic and international affairs.

Agree or disagree with Obama's policies, I think he has proven his leadership ability through his campaign. It is no easy task to build a broad base of support among many different groups, to raise that kind of money, and to pave the road to the White House. He knew what he was doing when he was elected Senator and went to accomplish that task. And he achieved it.

He can be a tremendous role model for millions of young black children. If Obama, who grew up without a father, grew up in a working class family, could go to Harvard Law School, be elected as the President of the law review, play a large role in local politics, and move on to national politics and now be elected to the highest office in the land, what can they do? He is a tremendous example of what anyone in this country can acheive through hard work. I am excited about having a President who young people can look up to as a role model. His story is exceptional, agree or disagree with his policy stances.


WOW!!!! Are you ever flat-out soaking wet wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OBAMA is so deceitful I do not even believe his name is barak Hussein Obama. Guess what???? It isn't. LOLOLOL It really and truly is Barry Soetoro. That's the name his mother gave him in Indonesia where he was born. The only thing Barry Soetoro (most often called obama) can do well is to LIE, LIE, LIE. Please view the following carefully for more proof than we need::::::::::::

OBAMA'S 'NOT EXACTLY'S'


1.) Selma Got Me Born - NOT EXACTLY, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965. (Google 'Obama Selma' for his full March 4, 2007 speech and articles about its various untruths.)

2.) My Father Was A Goat Herder - NOT EXACTLY, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.

3.) My Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighte r - NOT EXACTLY, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.

4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - NOT EXACTLY, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya . It is the first widespread violence in decades. The current government is pro-American but Odinga wants to overthrow it and establish Muslim Sharia law. Your half-brother, Abongo Obama, is Odinga's
follower. You interrupted your New Hampshire campaigning to speak to Odinga on the phone.

Obama's cousin Odinga in Kenya ran for president and tried to get Sharia Muslim law in place there. When Odinga lost the elections, his followers burned Christians' homes and then burned men, women and children alive in a Christian church where they took shelter. Obama SUPPORTED his cousin before the election process here started. Google Obama and Odinga and see what you get. No one wants to know the truth.


5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - NOT EXACTLY, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5 am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.

6.) My Name is African Swahili - NOT EXACTLY, y our name is Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.

Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. If elected, he would be the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side. While Barack Hussein Obama's father was from Kenya , his father's family was mainly Arabs. Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth certificate even states he's Arab, not African Negro). From....and for more....go to.....

http://www.arcadeathome.com/newsboy.pht ... b-American
,_only_6.25%_African


7.) I Never Pra cticed Islam - NOT EXACTLY, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run for office. 4-3-08 Article 'Obama was 'quite religious in Islam''
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=60559

8.) My School In Indonesia was Christian - NOT EXACTLY, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).

February 28, 2008. Kristoff from the New York Times a year ago: Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it'll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as 'one of the prettiest sounds on earth at sunset' This is just one example of what Pamela is talking about when she says 'Obama's narrative is being altered, enhanced and manipulated to whitewash troubling facts.'


9) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - NOT EXACTLY, not one teacher says you could speak the language.

10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia , I Have More Foreign Experience - NOT EXACTLY, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran.

11 .) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - NOT EXACTLY, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.

12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - NOT EXACTLY, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.

13.) An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - NOT EXACTLY, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My outlook on Life - NOT EXACTLY, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

15.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - NOT EXACTLY, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first

16.) Voting 'Present' is common in the Illinois Senate - NOT EXACTLY, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 'NO VOTES'.

17.) 'Oops, I Misvoted' - NOT EXACTLY, only when caught by church groups and Democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.

18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - NOT EXACTLY, you didn't write it, introduce it, change it, or create it.

21) The Ethics B ill Was Hard To Pass - NOT EXACTLY, it took just 14 days from start to finish.

22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - NOT EXACTLY, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.

23.) I Have Released My State Records - NOT EXACTLY, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.


24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - NOT EXACTLY, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books

25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - NOT EXACTLY, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.

26.) I Have &nbs p;Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - NOT EXACTLY, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.

27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - NOT EXACTLY, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.

28.) No One on my campaign contacted Canada about NAFTA - NOT EXACTLY, the Canadian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.

29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - NOT EXACTLY, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel .

30.) I Want All V otes To Count - NOT EXACTLY, you said let the delegates decide.

31.) I Want Americans To Decide - NOT EXACTLY, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.

32.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - NOT EXACTLY, you passed only 26, most of which you didn't write yourself.

33.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - NOT EXACTLY, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.

34.) I Don't Take PAC Money - NOT EXACTLY, you take loads of it.

35.) I don't Have Lobbyists - NOT EXACTLY, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.

36.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - NOT EXACTLY, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.

37.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - NOT EXACTLY, you weren't in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time.

38.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - NOT EXACTLY, your plan leaves us all to pay for the 15,000,000 who don't have to buy it!

GOD HELP US IF WE JUST SIT IDLY BY AND LET THIS PERSON BECOME OUR NEXT
PRESIDENT. IT WOULD BE SUICIDAL FOR US TO DO NOTHING TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING. PASS THIS ON TO ALL THE ONES YOU VALUE, JUST AS I AM DOING. IT'S TIME THE 'SILENT MAJORITY' TAKE A STAND! GET OUT AND VOTE! PLEASE!
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Its too bad he pulled the wool over their eyes .Its to bad people voted based on color rather than conscience .Its to bad that people were luled by his flowery words . :badday:

I totally agree. Now we see how Adolph Hitler got in. For many, many years I have been following the "track" that America has been on we've followed Germany's downfall just before he was voted in by the people. He also promised "Change". Ironically, his and Obama's speech about "Change" could almost be switched.

Please read the following very carefully::::::::::::;;

A German lady remembers Nazi "Change"

Dear Believer,

Your nation, your country, your culture and future are all in turmoil no matter where you are right now reading this. We cannot as Christians take a passive fatalistic approach to all that is occurring. We need to cry out, warn, pray until our throats ache, and get the focus off of our small little selves. Please read the message from a wise elder saint who has chosen to be a voice......regardless of the what it has cost her.

In His Shadow,
Mary L.

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In Germany, when Hitler came to power, it was a time of terrible financial depression. Money was worth nothing.

In Germany people lost homes and jobs, just like in the American Depression in the 1930s, which we have read about in Thoene's Shiloh books.

In those days, in my homeland, Adolph Hitler was elected to power by promising "Change."

He blamed the "Zionists" around the world for all our problems. He told everyone it was greedy Zionist Bankers who had caused every problem we had. He promised when he was leader, the greedy Zionist bankers would be punished. The Zionists, he promised, would be wiped off the face of the earth. So Hitler was elected to power by only 1/3 the popular vote.

A coalition of other political parties in parliament made him supreme leader. Then, when he was leader, he disgraced and expelled everyone in parliament who did not go along with him.

Yes. Change came to my homeland as the new leader promised it would. The teachers in German schools began to teach the children to sing songs in praise of Hitler.

This was the beginning of the Hitler Youth movement. It began with praise of the Fuhrer's programs on the lips of innocent children. Hymns in praise of Hitler and his programs were being sung in the schoolrooms and in the play yard.

Little girls and boys joined hands and sang these songs as they walked home from school.

My brother came home and told Papa what was happening at school. The political hymns of children proclaimed Change was coming to our homeland and the Fuhrer was a leader we could trust.

I will never forget my father's face. Grief and fear. He knew that the best propaganda of the Nazis was song on the lips of little children.

That evening before he said grace at the dinner table, he placed his hands upon the heads of my brothers and me and prayed the Living Word upon us from Jeremiah 1:4-5.

"Now the Word of the Lord came to me, saying, 'Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations."'

Soon the children's songs praising the Fuhrer were heard everywhere on the streets and over the radio. "With our Fuhrer to lead us, we can do it! We can change the world!"

Soon after that Papa, a pastor, was turned away from visiting elderly parishioners in hospitals. The people he had come to bring comfort of God's Word, were "no longer there."

Where had they vanished to while under nationalized health care? It became an open secret.

The elderly and sick began to disappear from hospitals feet first as "mercy killing" became the policy.

Children with disabilities and those who had Down syndrome were euthanized.

People whispered, "Maybe it is better for them now. Put them out of misery. They are no longer suffering. And, of course, their death is better for the treasury of our nation. Our taxes no longer must be spent to care for such a burden." And so murder was called mercy.

The government took over private business. Industry and health care were "nationalized." (NA-ZI means National Socialist Party)

The businesses of all Jews were seized. (Perhaps you remember our story in Berlin on Krystalnacht in the book Munich Signature)

The world and God's word were turned upside down. Hitler promised the people economic Change? Not change. It was, rather, Lucifer's very ancient Delusion leading to Destruction.

What began with the propaganda of children singing a catchy tune ended in the deaths of millions of children.

The reality of what came upon us is so horrible that you in this present generation cannot imagine it. Our suffering is too great to ever tell in a book or show in a black and white newsreel.

When I spoke to Bodie about some of these things, she wept and said she could not bear to write them.

Perhaps one day she will, but I asked her, "who could bear to read our suffering?" Yet with my last breaths I warn every Christian and Jew now in the name of the Lord, unless your course of the church in America is spiritually changed now, returning to the Lord, there are new horrors yet to come.

I trembled last night when I heard the voices of American children raised in song, praising the name of Obama, the charismatic fellow who claims he is the American Messiah. Yet I have heard what this man Obama says about abortion and the "mercy killing" of tiny babies who are not wanted.

There are so few of us left to warn you.

I have heard that there are 69 million Catholics in America and 70 million Evangelical Christians.

Where are your voices?

Where is your outrage?

Where is passion and your vote?

Do you vote based on an abortionist's empty promises and economics? Or do you vote according to the Bible?

Thus says the Lord about every living child still in the womb.

"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you."

I have experienced the signs of the politics of Death in my youth. I see them again now. Christians! Unless you stand up now, you will lose your freedom of religion.

In America priests and preachers have already lost their freedom to speak openly from their pulpits of moral danger in political candidates.

They cannot legally instruct you of which candidate holds fast to the precepts of scripture! American law forbids this freedom of speech to conservative pastors or they will lose their "tax exempt" status.

And yet I have heard the words of Obama's pastor Damning America!

I have heard the words of Obama damning and mocking all of you in small towns because you "Cling to your religion."

But I am a woman whose name is unknown. My life is recorded as a work of fiction. I have no fear of reprisal when I speak truth to you from the pages of a book. (Though the Zion Covenant books are mocked and condemned by the Left in America.)

I am an old woman and will soon go to be with my Lord. I have no fear for myself, but for all of you and for your children, I tremble.

I tremble at the hymns to a political leaders which your children will sing at school. (Though even now a hymn or a prayer to God and our Lord Jesus is against the law in public school!)

Your vote must put a stop to what will come upon America if Barrack Obama is elected. I pray you will personally heed this warning for the sake of your children and your grandchildren. Do not be deceived.

The Lord in Jeremiah 1:7-8 commands every believer to speak up!

"Do not say, 'I am only a youth,' for to all whom I send you, you shall go, and whatever I command you, you shall speak. Do not be afraid of them for I am with you, declares the Lord!"

I am in Prayer for you, and for the Church! Spoken to you in the authority of Jesus the Christ, the Name Above All Names,

Lori Kalner

Shalom Aleichem in Yahshua,

Moshe ben-Yosef

"O TASTE AND SEE YHWH IS GOOD, Blessed is he that trust in Him." Psalm 34
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Conspiracies, Kevin? What conspiracies? Fact is fact, man. Obama has marxian philosophies. The ony redeeming thing about his pick of Rahm Emanuel is that Rahm may keep him from going completely into the socialist agenda. Although that is well started with this bailout that both McCain and Obama supported. And it will continue.



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Oh...and, I will ALWAYS be his mom, Kevin. :smile As my mom would always say...the "door is always open no matter what." That means the home that I grew up in. As far as "false religions?" The RCC does teach some truth...it is just shady. Yes...the doctrine sends souls to hell by works...we all know that. However, what "wacky organizations" do you think my son is involved in, exactly?

Good thoughts, Kevin. Although, many who supported McCain because of Palin did so primarily because she stood for what many people believe.

For instance, my hubby and I were torn at first. We knew we would not vote for Obama, for many, many reasons. One of the premiere reasons was his absolute dearth of any conscience when it comes to abortion. We don't like a majority of McCain's policies, but he at least is mostly pro-life (he comes down on the side that says in the case of incest or rape...). Had he chosen Tom Ridge, who is pro-abortion (pro-choice is the same thing, in our opinions), we would not have voted for him, as much as we hated the idea of Obama winning - we would have either not voted for POTUS, or voted third party.

When he chose Palin, we were happy to find out that she was pro-life, pro-gun, and a Christian - and not ashamed of that fact. So, that influenced our decision greatly. :amen::goodpost:

You're right, it isn't always youth...but it is true that many young people are easily swayed - precisely because of what you said - they haven't researched issues and looked into things. Decisions are based on emotions many times. Or on great thoughts - like the idea of the first black POTUS. That is an alluring thought, but it isn't something that should be the basis for a decision, although it was in many, many cases.



Absolutely, LuAnne. :thumb Some people never "grow up" though, and remain clueless. That is the problem that I have with full grown adults. Born-again Christians.... :puzzled:
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