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SCOTUS on Obama Birth Cert.

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My Dad says he was Born in Hawaii

Many people do. And if he produces the certified birth certificate, all question will be laid to rest. Your dad doesn't know him personally, so he is accepting what BO says. And unless there is proof to the contrary (which there seems to be), so do I, really. But I do believe BO would be wise to produce the document.

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No-one is certain of that, yet. For several reasons. One being that BO's Kenyan grandma has bragged many times about being in the delivery room IN KENYA when he was born. And BO's half sister claimed he was born in one hospital in HA, while BO said it was another. Mistakes can be made, yes. And maybe he was born in Hawaii - but he has sure been loathe to provide proof. All that Berg asked for was for him to produce his birth certificate. Not that hard, I could do it in just a few minutes.

The national news is repeating what he said - that he was born there. As I said, he may have been. But there are enough reasons to wonder that it would just be wise for him to lay all those questions to rest.



Yes...HC, this is ALL our big giant puzzle...isn't it?

My Dad says he was Born in Hawaii


Aaaaw, KJVKay. Hawaii is so beautiful. My SIL was born, there, too. My son's (oldest) aunt---when his grandpa served as a Captain in the US Navy. :smile

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Many people do. And if he produces the certified birth certificate, all question will be laid to rest. Your dad doesn't know him personally, so he is accepting what BO says. And unless there is proof to the contrary (which there seems to be), so do I, really. But I do believe BO would be wise to produce the document.



:goodpost::amen: LuAnne. We can't take anything at "face value" anymore. Well...we never really could.

Times are tough. :sad

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He has produced a birth certificate.

As far as the court case, my guess is that this guy never served process on Obama. If process is never served, Obama does not have to answer, and would be foolish to do so. I imagine that is what happened. Regardless, his campaign has a birth certificate, has made it availalbe, as has Hawaii.

This should not be an issue. Again, this is nothing but spreading rumors and gossip because it is baseless.

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#1 - what BO produced was a certificate of live birth - not the same thing. And on that certificate, his father's race was listed as African...lingo that wasn't used in the 60's.

#2 - meeting him is not knowing him. Many people who KNOW him have issued warnings about him - warnings that have gone unheeded by the media and by many people who don't want to look any further than the surface.

#3 - this isn't taking my eyes off the Lord.

Many things that you both may consider rumors are fact - proven by his actions, his voting records and his own words.

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So I guess our country is DOOMed because we have someone that goes against what we believe in. I guess its end of America as of last week . There is no more America .


Well, if socialism gets the stranglehold on this country that it's been trying to for years, and slowlyl succeeding, it will be the end of America as we know it. I realize that your comment was sarcastic, but, really, there are many, many people who spend their lives studying this kind of stuff who have warned about him.

And, yes, our country is doomed. The whole earth is. The Bible is clear on that!

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:goodpost: LuAnne. The "real" beginning of setting EVERYTHING up for the Anti-Christ. I don't think (personally) that the President Elect is the AC---for VARIOUS reasons; however, this is setting the stage for the AC to come on the scene.

I certainly feel that a thorough investigation should be in order on this matter. Everyone has to go through this process. And, as for the POTUS---absolutely!! The highest position in the USA? I am :-S that it has taken this long.

Born-again believers NEED to stay focused on the Lord by standing up for what the :bible: says. President Elect Barack Obama doesn't know what the Bible says with regards to many things---in which God Almighty calls an abomination. He has been under the leadership of the WRONG pastor for years. This is a confusing time...KJVKay (as you know.) We (Christians) NEED to stand up for the truth. We shouldn't be wavering.

He and his family need our prayers. However, we are NOT to pray for the sins that he supports. I just pray that the Lord places Christians EVERYWHERE in his path that know what God says in His Holy Word.

In Christ's Love ~

Molly

Hebrews 10:23...Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;) KJV 1611 AV. "The Just Shall Live By Faith"

The Epistle of James 1:6...But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. KJV 1611 AV. "Beware of Personal Favoritism"

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I know. I get so tired of it. Again...as I have stated in the past---I get this out in the world. I don't want to see this on OB. :coffee

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Even the people who campaigned for Obama have been recorded as saying they don't really "know" him so its impossible that anyone who has met him via a union would truly "know" him.

Nothing said on here has been lies. Of course we'll all know that in four more years. Probably less.

And the thing about the birth certificate is speculation...nobody has come out and lied and said he is for sure a forgery.

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http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

AFAIK, factcheck.org is run by people very close to Obama, so naturally they would defend him. We need information from people not affiliated with BO. A certification of live birth is not what Mr Berg is asking for, we want to see the original birth certificate, which Obama specifically mentioned he is in possession of in his book.

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Seeking the truth is not bashing someone whether they are Bush or Obama or anyone else.

This is such a simple matter that should be able to be settled with ease. The question is, why hasn't it been?

The fact a Union backed Obama means very little. Unions tend to always back whoever the Dem nominee is. It doesn't matter if that nominee is Clinton, Gore, Kerry or Obama; the Union backs them because they are liberal Dems.

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AFAIK, factcheck.org is run by people very close to Obama, so naturally they would defend him. We need information from people not affiliated with BO. A certification of live birth is not what Mr Berg is asking for, we want to see the original birth certificate, which Obama specifically mentioned he is in possession of in his book.


A Certification of Live Birth sounds like a Birth Certificate to me. If it looks like a duck, acts like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is a duck. Why isn't the fact that this has been produced by the Obama Campaign enough?

Berg's complaint was dismissed by the judge. Obama would have been foolish to produce something to a court that dismissed the case against him. I don't think you people would be satisfied if you held it in your hands.

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A Certification of Live Birth sounds like a Birth Certificate to me. If it looks like a duck, acts like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is a duck. Why isn't the fact that this has been produced by the Obama Campaign enough?

Berg's complaint was dismissed by the judge. Obama would have been foolish to produce something to a court that dismissed the case against him. I don't think you people would be satisfied if you held it in your hands.

"I don't think you people..." Nice.

Just to let you know: a certificate of live birth is not the same thing. It is not a legal document. My husband has both - I know wherewith I speak.

And the judge was an Obama supporter. Not bi-partisan. Lots of that has been going around for the last 2 years.

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"I don't think you people..." Nice.



I suppose that is what things have gotten reduced to, unfortunately. :frog

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I've got a copy of my birth certificate, but its only a copy, and it does not necessarily mean that it is an accurate copy of the original that is on file in Arkansas.

Anyone can make a copy of anything they want and make it state whatsoever they want in this modern computer age

For instant, the document that caused Dan Rather to lose his job, it was a fraudulent copy.

If Obama had nothing to hide, and had already proved where he was born beyond a doubt, this would not keep coming up, so rightly its Obama's fault that its on going.

But seems some will believe anything he says without absolute proof. They have their very own reason for doing so, but they're ignoring the law of this land that he will be sworn to protect and uphold.

If he fails to prove this beyond a doubt can he be trusted to uphold the laws of this land? NO!

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You all believe everything is plastured on the net about this guy. Obama was Born in Hawaii and Hawaii just cleared that up. Like I been saying the last several years about people bashing Bush. Not everyone likes a president so they think they can bash him and it won't please them. OBAMA IS NOT EVIL PEOPLE THE PEOPLE MAKING UP THESE LIES ARE.

Just one question I have for you, girl::::::::: What do you think of a man (or beast) that insists on murdering babies wholesale???????????? That is YOUR OBAMA!!!!!

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For a subject that some people keep claiming is so settled, it just keeps coming up.....
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81484

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Right, its not completely settled yet, for anyone to say so it will just show their lack of knowledge of what is taking place at present time.

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"Should Senator Obama be discovered, after he takes office, to be ineligible for the Office of President of the United States of America and, thereby, his election declared void, Petitioners, as well as other Americans, will suffer irreparable harm in that (a) usurper will be sitting as the President of the United States, and none of the treaties, laws, or executive orders signed by him will be valid or legal," the action challenges.


This is truly the heart of the matter, now isn't it?

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