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Turn it on then! duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh............................lol.............or http://www.cnn.com



You are so funny!! :lol: No...I want you to give me ALL the information, trc. j/k...we have Christmas music playing as we are getting ready to have Thanksgiving here for almost the ENTIRE family, tomorrow.

Yeah...I gotta keep up on world events, or word crisis' is more like it. :sad
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Gunmen kill at least 78 in attacks across Mumbai

MUMBAI, India ? Teams of heavily armed gunmen stormed luxury hotels, a popular restaurant and a crowded train station in coordinated attacks across India's financial capital Wednesday night, killing at least 78 people and taking Westerners hostage, police said. An explosion followed by a raging fire struck one of the hotels, the landmark Taj Mahal, early Thursday. Screams could be heard and enormous clouds of black smoke rose from the at the century-old edifice on Mumbai's waterfront. Firefighters were spraying water at the blaze.

The attackers specifically targeted Britons and Americans, witnesses said. Fires burned and gunfire was heard for hours. Officials said at least 200 people were wounded.

The motive for the onslaught was not immediately clear, but Mumbai has frequently been targeted in terrorist attacks blamed on Islamic extremists, including a series of bombings in July 2007 that killed 187 people.

An Indian media report said a previously unknown group calling itself the Deccan Mujahideen had claimed responsibility for the attacks in e-mails to several media outlets.

Police reported hostages being held at the Taj Mahal and Oberoi hotels, two of the best-known upscale destinations in this crowded but wealthy city.

Gunmen who burst into the Taj "were targeting foreigners. They kept shouting: `Who has U.S. or U.K. passports?'" said Ashok Patel, a British citizen who fled from the hotel.

Authorities believed seven to 15 foreigners were prisoners at the Taj Mahal, but it was not immediately clear if hostages at the Oberoi were Indians or foreigners, said Anees Ahmed, a top state official.

State Department spokesman Robert Wood said U.S. officials were not aware of any American casualties, but were still checking. He said he could not address reports that Westerners might be among the hostages.

"We condemn these attacks and the loss of innocent life," White House spokesman Tony Fratto said.

Johnny Joseph, chief secretary for Maharashtra state, of which Mumbai is the capital, said 78 people had been killed and 200 had been wounded.

Blood smeared the floor of the Chhatrapati Shivaji rail station, where attackers sprayed bullets into the crowded terminal. Press Trust of India quoted the chief of the Mumbai railway police, A.K. Sharma, as saying several men armed with rifles and grenades were holed up at the station.

Other gunmen attacked Leopold's restaurant, a landmark popular with foreigners, and the police headquarters in southern Mumbai, the area where most of the attacks took place. The restaurant was riddled with bullet holes and there were blood on the floor and shoes left by fleeing customers.

A British citizen who was dining at the Oberoi hotel told Sky News television that the gunmen who struck there singled out Britons and Americans.

Alex Chamberlain said a gunman, a young man of 22 or 23, ushered 30 or 40 people from the restaurant into a stairway and ordered everyone to put up their hands. He said the gunman spoke in Hindi or Urdu.

"They were talking about British and Americans specifically. There was an Italian guy, who, you know, they said: 'Where are you from?" and he said he's from Italy and they said 'fine' and they left him alone. And I thought: 'Fine, they're going to shoot me if they ask me anything ? and thank God they didn't," he said.

Chamberlain said he managed to slip away as the patrons were forced to walk up stairs, but he thought much of the group was being held hostage.

Early Thursday, several European lawmakers were among people who barricaded themselves inside the Taj, a century-old seaside hotel complex and one of the city's best-known destinations.

"I was in the main lobby and there was all of a sudden a lot of firing outside," said Sajjad Karim, part of a delegation of European lawmakers visiting Mumbai ahead of a European Union-India summit.

As he turned to get away, "all of a sudden another gunmen appeared in front of us, carrying machine gun-type weapons. And he just started firing at us ... I just turned and ran in the opposite direction," he told The Associated Press over his mobile phone.

Hours later, Karim remained holed up in a hotel restaurant, unsure if it was safe to come out.

The British Foreign Office said it was advising all British citizens in Mumbai to stay indoors.

Britain's foreign secretary, David Miliband, strongly condemned the attacks. "Today's attacks in Mumbai which have claimed many innocent victims remind us, yet again, of the threat we face from violent extremists," Miliband said in a statement.

India has been wracked by bomb attacks the past three years, which police blame on Muslim militants intent on destabilizing this largely Hindu country. Nearly 700 people have died.

Since May a militant group calling itself the Indian Mujahideen has taken credit for a string of blasts that killed more than 130 people. The most recent was in September, when a series of explosions struck a park and crowded shopping areas in the capital, New Delhi, killing 21 people and wounding about 100.

Mumbai has been hit repeatedly by terror attacks since March 1993, when Muslim underworld figures tied to Pakistani militants allegedly carried out a series of bombings on Mumbai's stock exchange, trains, hotels and gas stations. Authorities say those attacks, which killed 257 people and wounded more than 1,100, were carried out to avenge the deaths of hundreds of Muslims in religious riots that had swept India.

Ten years later, in 2003, 52 people were killed in Mumbai bombings blamed on Muslim militants and in July 2007 a series of seven blasts on railway trains and at commuter rail stations killed at least 187.

Relations between Hindus, who make up more than 80 percent of India's 1 billion population, and Muslims, who make up about 14 percent, have sporadically erupted into bouts of sectarian violence since British-ruled India was split into independent India and Pakistan in 1947.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081126/ap_ ... a_shooting

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Thanks for the article, John. Well, it appears that the terrorists are wasting no time at all. :sad Barack Hussein Obama has them quite miffed. WOW!! I gather he is more of a threat to them, that GWB? Incredible, how these murderers operate. Yep, targeting Americans and British men and women in India, now. Goodness!!

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This kind of story scares me! America has such tense relationships with so many countries - China being a major one! If a group in India can suddenly release their hatred like that, what's to stop that from happening in China someday too? Sometimes I feel like the whole world's peace is held together by a very thin thread that could snap any time. I guess that's how it should feel as it gets closer to Christ's return though.

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Let's not forget the massive Christian persecution that has taken place in India this year as well.

Regardless of what Bush might have done right, he mishandled a great deal of foreign relations and that's something that's going to carry over for some time unless or until Obama or another president changes things around.

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This kind of story scares me! America has such tense relationships with so many countries - China being a major one! If a group in India can suddenly release their hatred like that' date=' what's to stop that from happening in China someday too? Sometimes I feel like the whole world's peace is held together by a very thin thread that could snap any time. I guess that's how it should feel as it gets closer to Christ's return though.[/quote']


I know Katie. Russia is a huge threat to the USA, then China---and, of course the little terrorist countries. The Rapture is fast approaching. Heaven is so glorious that man cannot even fathom, except what the Bible tells us. OB members might be having that reunion in heaven, rather than on earth. You, your hubby, and babies, will be in heaven will Our wonderful Glorious Saviour, Jesus Christ sooner than we thought---I think. Keep telling the beautiful Chinese people about Jesus Christ. God bless. :smile

I Thessalonians 4:16-18...16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort (cheer) one another with these words. "The Coming of the Lord" KJV 1611 AV.
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I hope this doesn't mean we are going to find another weak nation that had nothing to do with those attacks and launch an invasion and destablize another region.

Sorry, but every time I hear the term "destablize" applied to what is happening in Iraq, I just have to chuckle. That whole area of the world has been UNstable for thousands of years. How can something that is UNstable become destablized? :lol:

Truth of the matter is, we are stablizing that area. There are still pockets of areas that are not stable, and that will ever be so. But, really, we need to stop just accepting what the MSM says about our reasons for being over there, and the supposed results of it.

An interesting and informative book to read (among many others) would be The Final Move Beyond Iraq: The Final Solution While the World Sleeps by Mike Evans.
http://www.amazon.com/Final-Move-Beyond ... 829&sr=1-2

Evans has been very privy to middle east goings on for many years, and has been confidant to many of the leaders over there. He has done a great job of putting together information that would actually surprise many people - because it is so antithetical to what the MSM spews.

The ignorance behind the reasons we are over there really bothers me at times, too. People just don't understand the importance of this war we are engaged in - on many fronts. There are more hot spots around the world that are more of a danger than we average citizens realize.

I would encourage everyone to do some research before writing off this war in Iraq as a waste of our country's resources...
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Sorry, but every time I hear the term "destablize" applied to what is happening in Iraq, I just have to chuckle. That whole area of the world has been UNstable for thousands of years. How can something that is UNstable become destablized? :lol:

Truth of the matter is, we are stablizing that area. There are still pockets of areas that are not stable, and that will ever be so. But, really, we need to stop just accepting what the MSM says about our reasons for being over there, and the supposed results of it.

An interesting and informative book to read (among many others) would be The Final Move Beyond Iraq: The Final Solution While the World Sleeps by Mike Evans.
http://www.amazon.com/Final-Move-Beyond ... 829&sr=1-2

Evans has been very privy to middle east goings on for many years, and has been confidant to many of the leaders over there. He has done a great job of putting together information that would actually surprise many people - because it is so antithetical to what the MSM spews.

The ignorance behind the reasons we are over there really bothers me at times, too. People just don't understand the importance of this war we are engaged in - on many fronts. There are more hot spots around the world that are more of a danger than we average citizens realize.

I would encourage everyone to do some research before writing off this war in Iraq as a waste of our country's resources...



:amen::goodpost: HC! And, your ONLY son is fighting for us, correct? I have 2 relatives in Iraq at this time...stationed in the US Army. Also, my closest friend's ONLY son is going back to Iraq for the 3rd time...he is a US Marine. Another friend of mine has an older brother who is a doctor at the largest military hospital in Iraq. He has taken an oath to help try to save ALL those who are injured as a result of this war. So---when the infidels "spit in his face" he has to "turn the other cheek" and continue to help save them. Hmmm? Now, these are things that people should really think about, IMO.

Truth of the matter is' date=' we are stablizing that area. There are still pockets of areas that are not stable, and that will ever be so. But, really, we need to stop just accepting what the MSM says about our reasons for being over there, and the supposed results of it. [/quote']

Absolutely!! MSM is NOT the best source of information in the US. They only tell the American public what they want us to know---NOT what we need to know.



Yep! :thumb You have certainly done your research. So---before people go "running off at the mouth" about war, war, war...blah, blah, blah...consider "war is a necessary evil." It is NOT going to go away! God said it wouldn't!



Thanks for the information! :-) These anti-war protests on OB remind me of Vietnam. :roll Our US soldiers NEED our prayers, NOT our negativity on this subject.

Matthew 24:6...And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. "The End of the Age" KJV 1611 AV.
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:amen::goodpost: HC! And, your ONLY son is fighting for us, correct? I have 2 relatives in Iraq at this time...stationed in the US Army. Also, my closest friend's ONLY son is going back to Iraq for the 3rd time...he is a US Marine. Another friend of mine has an older brother who is a doctor at the largest military hospital in Iraq. He has taken an oath to help try to save ALL those who are injured as a result of this war. So---when the infidels "spit in his face" he has to "turn the other cheek" and continue to help save them. Hmmm? Now, these are things that people should really think about, IMO.



candle - my son is in the military, but he is not at this time deploying. He wants to so very much...he knows far more than any of us ever will just what exactly is going on. But they (the powers that be :Green ) have told him they don't want him to deploy yet. They want him to get his education done so he can be commissioned so he can be deployed as an officer. He's disappointed, but knows the need for his specialty, and for good officers.

Please thank your relatives and your neighbor's son for their service. It truly means a lot to me and mine!
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That is so awesome, HC! TPTB do know what is in the best interest of your son, I believe. LOL...he won't be disappointed when he is deployed as "an officer." :amen:

I certainly will, HC. My entire family is US military. Both of my son's granddad's were officers. His paternal grandfather has a wonderful pension from the US Navy. He is a retired Navy captain. My mom also worked for the Department of the Navy when my parents were first married. She has a lovely pension. My hubby's brother was made Sergeant in the US Marines at age 18. He was a "sharpshooter." My other BIL is a retired Navy Commander. When he retired he lived in Kuwait, and worked for Boeing. Also, my hubby's dad was in the Infantry in the US Army. He was in the same outfit---in the movie: "We are Soldiers" with Mel Gibson. My FIL came home prior to that.

This anti-war talk "gets under my skin." Unless, someone has a close family member stationed in the Middle East---I am NOT going to pay it any mind, anymore. These soldiers are protecting our freedoms so that we can celebrate holidays such as Thanksgiving. :smile
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Yes, aren't we suppose to help those who can help their self? Seems that is what we are doing in Iraq. The democrats would have everyone believe everything over there has been a complete failure, but they have their own reason for our armed forces failing, but its not for the betterment of America.

And to, most of us out here in America make our decision on what it right and or wrong on the matter of Iraq on gossip we read and or hear on TV, radio, or newspapers, not facts.

But gossip can change to course to an improper path.
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Right on, Pastor Jerry! :amen::goodpost: The Democrats have a wonderful way of twisting everything around to suit their own selfish purposes. Money is "key" to them! They worry about things that they have NO control over---when God will supply their every need...AND, He does! Many Democrats that I know today---are "overgrown hippies" from the 1960's-1970's. Their "lack of support" to our US troops is just repulsive.

But gossip can change to course to an improper path.


YES! Other countries prey on "gossip" like vultures prey on dead carcases.
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