Guest Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Quote: An unnamed reply on the internet...Most child molesters, therefore, are not gay people lingering outside schools waiting to snatch children from the playground, as much religious-right rhetoric suggests. Heterosexuals are the child molesters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JerryNumbers Posted June 11, 2012 Members Share Posted June 11, 2012 (edited) False, but I would not think that the majority of people will understand it. It has been proven years ago that homosexuals prey on children. They love nothing better than a young person, teaching, training, them while they are young to do what they enjoy. After they win the young child's trust, the young child will completely trust the. Homosexuals are perverts, & they will do anything to try to change, win, the public's view of them as very good trusting citizens that does not wrong. them they can quietly go about enjoying their sins. they have no morals. Ge 19:5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them. They have no shame. And the only way you can change the public's perception of homosexuals is to get them saved. Edited June 11, 2012 by Jerry80871852 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted June 11, 2012 Members Share Posted June 11, 2012 There are statistics out there that show a very high percentage of pedophiles are homosexual. I've not had cause to use such since sometime in the 90s so I don't have any web links but would like to see them posted if someone has them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Anon Posted June 11, 2012 Members Share Posted June 11, 2012 Sandusky is a good recent example of someone who, if not necessarily gay, was doing gay molestation. It used to be you only had to fear for your little girls. Now you have to fear for both little boys AND little girls. Basically though, what I've found, is that in both gay and abortion discussions online, they will automatically throw out your opinions based on it being "religious right" and ignore anything you say as being crazy, even if your logic is completely sans-religion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted June 11, 2012 Members Share Posted June 11, 2012 Sandusky is a good recent example of someone who, if not necessarily gay, was doing gay molestation. It used to be you only had to fear for your little girls. Now you have to fear for both little boys AND little girls. Basically though, what I've found, is that in both gay and abortion discussions online, they will automatically throw out your opinions based on it being "religious right" and ignore anything you say as being crazy, even if your logic is completely sans-religion. Yes, if the child molestor is male and he targets boys, he's not only a child molestor, he's also a homosexual. For some reason, many fail to see this, or more likely, they try to ignore it. For the most part, the liberals and non-Christians will attack and ignore anything put forth by biblical Christians. There is really no point in engaging these sorts. The only time I even bother responding to that type is if there is an "audience" of others who may actually benefit from hearing the truth. In those cases my response are not actually directed at the liberals, but the potentially open to the truth others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JerryNumbers Posted June 12, 2012 Members Share Posted June 12, 2012 There are statistics out there that show a very high percentage of pedophiles are homosexual. I've not had cause to use such since sometime in the 90s so I don't have any web links but would like to see them posted if someone has them. There use to be a Christian show on satellite back in the 2000's, it gave these statistics many times. As mentioned by Suzy, Sandusky is a perfect example, & usually they ruin the life of more than one child before caught. And of course, some never get caught. Another one would be all the Catholic priest, that preyed off of young boy, & most to them did this to many young boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JerryNumbers Posted June 12, 2012 Members Share Posted June 12, 2012 Yes, if the child molestor is male and he targets boys, he's not only a child molestor, he's also a homosexual. For some reason, many fail to see this, or more likely, they try to ignore it. For the most part, the liberals and non-Christians will attack and ignore anything put forth by biblical Christians. There is really no point in engaging these sorts. The only time I even bother responding to that type is if there is an "audience" of others who may actually benefit from hearing the truth. In those cases my response are not actually directed at the liberals, but the potentially open to the truth others. How about catering to the homosexuals for votes, its clear, they also go after the illegal voters, example, in Florida the White House is trying every way possible to keep them from taking illegal voters off the voting list, while trying to do everything possible to stop any type of voter identification. They have said, every vote should count, meaning illegal votes, if its for a democrat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted June 12, 2012 Members Share Posted June 12, 2012 How about catering to the homosexuals for votes, its clear, they also go after the illegal voters, example, in Florida the White House is trying every way possible to keep them from taking illegal voters off the voting list, while trying to do everything possible to stop any type of voter identification. They have said, every vote should count, meaning illegal votes, if its for a democrat. Statistics show that homosexuals, on average, are well off and they give large donations to liberal politicians and causes. This is why most think Obama finally came out and openly endorsed homosexual "marriage", because homosexual activists had threatened to withhold their huge campaign contributions. By openly supporting homosexual "marriage", Obama will receive several million dollars from homosexuals, their organizations and supporters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 A lot of thoughts here but, how do we formulate them? This is a statement made by one of those homosexuals. How would we reply to this if we were on a street and became part of a discussion around homosexuals; then someone made the OP quote. How do we respond to this as Christians and as concerned citizens of the U.S.? Can the things said thus far be put into a reply that other listeners in earshot can follow and maybe agree with. There are conservative leaning liberals out there that need a shove and there are people looking for truth who are lost out there. How do we reach them with the final motive to advance the Gospel of Christ. So what do we say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JerryNumbers Posted June 12, 2012 Members Share Posted June 12, 2012 As you know,The hope for the homosexuals lies in getting saved, having Christ change them to what they are suppose to be. To debate or argue with him, most likely will not change a homosexuals mind. Plus now that many churches will freely accept homosexuals, & they know that, they will not be accepting of a God that will not accept them just as they are. Of course this hold true for all of the lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted June 12, 2012 Members Share Posted June 12, 2012 The best approach is to stick to the Gospel, stick to Scripture. Secular arguments won't really get anyone anywhere and it certainly won't give them eternal life. It really doesn't matter how many other sins a homosexual commits compared to anyone else. What matters is that the homosexual is condemned to hell unless they repent and are born again in Christ (the same thing all lost souls need). The reason behind most laws in all nations has to do with religion more than anything else. Nations which had Christianity as their dominate religion had laws reflecting this just as Muslim dominate nations laws reflect Islam. One can look to Russia, which was heavily influenced by Orthodox Christians until the communists took over and worked to supress all aspects of Christianity, and altered laws to reflect their secular, athiestic "religion". The battle for the basis of our laws, our standard of right and wrong, here in America today isn't a matter of conservative/libertarian/liberal/socialist, it's a spiritual battle. Traditional Christianity is no longer the dominate religion of America. Secular humanism is coming to dominate, even among many professing Christians who reject much of Scripture in favor of secular philosophy. The only way to rightly confront the isses we face in America, including the issue of homosexuality, is with the Gospel of Christ. The only hope for America is God's people humbling ourselves before Him, repenting of our sins and truly giving ourselves to Him. How many professing Christians in America are willing to give up some or all of their pet entertainments, time wasters and sins in order to spend serious time in Bible reading, study and meditation; to spend serious time in prayer, to fast and cast our wills down in order to pursue Christlikeness? How many professing Christians in America are willing to become active in their church? How many professing Christians in America are willing to live as the salt and light of Christ in their area and to share the Gospel with the lost, to disciple those who are born again in Christ? All of these are what God calls us to yet the vast majority of professing Christians will not do this. Most prefer to pursue their own desires, to trust in politics, or to wait for someone else to do something. We can look to Old Testament Israel to see how this works out. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Ephesians 6:12 Oldtimer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members no name joe Posted June 12, 2012 Members Share Posted June 12, 2012 Homosexual is being sexually attracted to the same gender. Pedophilia is an adult being sexually attracted to and preying upon children. The two things cannot be compared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted June 12, 2012 Members Share Posted June 12, 2012 Homosexual is being sexually attracted to the same gender. Pedophilia is an adult being sexually attracted to and preying upon children. The two things cannot be compared. As a matter of fact, they can. A heterosexual pedophile is attracted to opposite sex children while a homosexual pedophile is attracted to same sex children. All are sinners needing to repent and be born again in Christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members no name joe Posted June 12, 2012 Members Share Posted June 12, 2012 As a matter of fact, they can. A heterosexual pedophile is attracted to opposite sex children while a homosexual pedophile is attracted to same sex children. All are sinners needing to repent and be born again in Christ. I'm just saying, pedophilia and homosexuality are two entirely different things. Just because a person is one does not make him the other. To compare the two is not right, and is quite offensive. One is legal, one is illegal. One is between two consenting adults, one is between one adult with power of a young person. Two entirely different things. I do not see how the two can be compared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted June 12, 2012 Members Share Posted June 12, 2012 I'm just saying, pedophilia and homosexuality are two entirely different things. Just because a person is one does not make him the other. To compare the two is not right, and is quite offensive. One is legal, one is illegal. One is between two consenting adults, one is between one adult with power of a young person. Two entirely different things. I do not see how the two can be compared. The comparison comes from statstics compiled which indicate a high percentage of pedophiles are homosexual. The highly publicized cases of the Catholic priests preying upon altar boys is a clear example of this. Beyond that, as far as Scripture is concerned, both pedophilia and homosexuality are illegal, both are peversions, both are sin and in the case of homosexuality God views that sin as an abomonation. They are both sexually perverse sins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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