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If any of you spend any time in the "world", especially online, you'll notice that "zombies" are becoming a HUGE thing right now. Aliens too, but particularly zombies.

I can't help but think about the devil starting the deception....if people think about aliens and zombies long enough, it will explain away the rapture and the tribulation fairly effectively.....

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I saw a short video on YouTube put out by a church which begin with the preacher preaching about the guy who fell out the window and died while Paul preached late at night. Then it shows a guy in the church nodding off. His head jerks up, he looks to his right and there is a zombie sitting next to him. He turns to his wife and asks if she saw that and his wife is a zombie. He screams, jumps up, the zombies all come after him, his son, the preacher and the whole congregation are now zombies chasing him out of the church.

The guy ends up running into an abandoned building where the zombies corner him and he falls out a window. He wakes up in church, jumping from his seat yelling, to which he tries to make it seem as if he was yelling hallelujah. The video ends with a warning not to fall asleep in church because it's dangerous.

On another note, one of the reasons often given in zombie stories for the rise of zombies is Scripture from Revelation, in particular where it speaks of the raising of the dead, the sea giving up the dead, etc. Of course those verses are taken out of context and misused, but the biblical reference is often put forth as a possible explanation of what is occuring.

The most disturbing thing I've seen regarding zombies is the t-shirts and websites which call Christianity the religion of zombies. They compare Jesus who has risen from the dead with zombies. They compare the Lord's Supper to zombies (eating His flesh, drinking His bood). Totally blasphemous and disturbing.

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The tribulation is going to contain some pretty scary, "zombie-like" things going on too...


There are a bunch already on the march...occupy Wall Street!

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Not just aliens and zombies, but the fascination with nephilim has also increased. Some Christians believe they are already walking amongst us.


Yes, it seems that way. Nephilim were simply big, tall, people; nothing more and nothing less. Genesis 6 never says the giants were the sons of God. It only makes a statement that there were giants, followed by a semicolon, and the "sons of God" were living "after" their "model", if you will.The "Sons of God" were believers( named in the lineage of Christ) like Lamech, Enoch, and Methuselah. Methuselah, for instance, lived for 969 years "begatting sons and daughters"(Genesis 5). By the time Methuselah died,(the year of the flood) his progeny surely would have multiplied into a nation with a huge population during his lifetime, making himself and his nation of progeny economically(see "mighty man of wealth" ), politically(marriage alliances) and militarily. Methuselah and his huge "family" would truly be "mighty men" "after" the similitude of the 'giants' In other words, a force to be reckoned with. I personally believe these 'sons of God" like Methuselah, were polygamists.(they took them "wives of all" ). Noah, the last 'son of God', the Bible says, was different: he was "perfect" in his "generations"(genesis 6). Adam's generations' were his progeny(see Genesis 5). How can a man be "perfect" in his "generations"? By marrying ONE wife who is a believer, and exclusively "generating" all of your offspring by that one wife. That, I believe, is exactly what Noah did. He was a one-woman man. But back to Nephilim; they weren't angel/human hybrids. Edited by heartstrings

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But back to Nephilim; they weren't angel/human hybrids.


Two schools of thought on that one. Both use scripture "rightly divided" to base their views on. Spose we will only know when we get to see our Maker.

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The interesting (freaky!) thing is today they are working on human/animal hybrids. :vomit: If the Nephilim were some weird hybrid thing - that makes it just a bit more like the 'days of Noah.'

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The passage about Noah being perfect in his generations was referring to his mature spiritual walk before and after the flood, not about how he begat children. Generation(s) in the Bible never refers to "generating," as you called it.

There is also nothing in Genesis five to indicate the saved men in the line of Seth married multiple wives. The blot on their record was due to their line intermarrying with unbelieving women.

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The passage about Noah being perfect in his generations was referring to his mature spiritual walk before and after the flood, not about how he begat children. Generation(s) in the Bible never refers to "generating," as you called it.

There is also nothing in Genesis five to indicate the saved men in the line of Seth married multiple wives. The blot on their record was due to their line intermarrying with unbelieving women.


Then please give your explanation of what the "
generations of Adam were.........
Genesis 5:1This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son...........

...and here, what were the "generations" of Noah's sons?
Genesis 10
1 Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood.............

Both passages are chronicles of progeny,. The word "generations" comes from the very same root word that "generator" does. And a generator.......generates too..


There is also nothing in Genesis five to indicate the saved men in the line of Seth married multiple wives.
Really? it says they took wives(plural) of "all". That does indicate at least the possibility of polygamy. We do know one man "Lamech" who definintely did so. He had two wives. So if these guys were disobedient and wayward enough to be taking unbeleiving wives, The other indication is what Jesus said in the NT: Jesus said they were "marrying" which possibly indicates actively practicing marriage.

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The men (plural) took wives (plural) - doesn't mean each man took multiple wives. Lamech was from the ungodly line.

Genesis four and five lists the generations of people from Adam's time until the flood - generations of Adam, meaning man or mankind (and the context of verses 1-2 show that God was using the term Adam in his way, then He goes on to individuals in verse 3), showing how many generations there were during this time period. Noah lived in two entirely different generations - the one before the flood (and all except those kept safe within the ark died), and the generation after the flood.

No need to look for some unique definition of the word generation(s).

Edited by Jerry

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:) Thanks everyone for the welcome back. I think I will stick around for a while now. Good to be here and read some posts by my friends. I missed some of you guys alot. Was dealing with some things and had to take an extended break from any message boards.

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The men (plural) took wives (plural) - doesn't mean each man took multiple wives. Lamech was from the ungodly line.

Genesis four and five lists the generations of people from Adam's time until the flood - generations of Adam, meaning man or mankind (and the context of verses 1-2 show that God was using the term Adam in his way, then He goes on to individuals in verse 3), showing how many generations there were during this time period. Noah lived in two entirely different generations - the one before the flood (and all except those kept safe within the ark died), and the generation after the flood.

No need to look for some unique definition of the word generation(s).


I wouldn't think of it.

]Generation (from the Latin generāre, meaning "to beget"),[1] also known as procreation in biological sciences, is the act of producing offspring. In a more general sense, it can also refer to the act of creating something inanimate such as ideas, sound, electrical generation using technology or cryptographic code generation.

Noah was absolutely perfect in his" acts of producing offspring" because he was first of all "walking with God" and therefore most likely married a believer, and also because of his intimate fellowship with God, his only "acts of producing offspring" would have been with his one wife. exactly and PERFECTLY the way God intended....Noah was a "one woman man".
"generations of Adam" in Genesis 5 means "what Adam produced" or "begat" same as "generations" of Noah. A "generator" produces something, and the things which it produces are "generations".

This reminds me of the phrase "help meet". Most men seem to think the phrase "help meet" is a noun or at least an adjective followed by a noun" when actually it is the other way around. Eve was not a "help meet"; she was a "Help"(noun)........... which was "meet"(adjective) "fitting" or "appropriate" or "proper"..... for Adam. Jerry, Just because someone tries to clarify the meaning of something in the Bible, doesn't always mean they are "looking for unique definitions" Excuse me. my "help meet" is calling me. :) Edited by heartstrings

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Clarifying doesn't mean you are looking for unique definitions - however, when you take a Bible word and try to make it mean something unique in one passage that it doesn't possibly mean anywhere else in the Bible, then there is a problem. See Matthew 24:34.

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Clarifying doesn't mean you are looking for unique definitions - however, when you take a Bible word and try to make it mean something unique in one passage that it doesn't possibly mean anywhere else in the Bible, then there is a problem. See Matthew 24:34.


I made it just as clear as I know how, that I believed "generations" means exactly the same thing in Genesis 5. Genesis 6 and Genesis 10. So why do you say this?
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Ok, for the sake of your argument, can you please list the references (actual verse numbers) that you believe fit your definition of the word?

Also, perfect means complete or mature (spiritually) in the Bible when referring to a person - so are you saying Noah was mature in his baby making? (Sorry, not sure how else to phrase this.)

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World English Dictionary perfect adj 1. having all essential elements 2. unblemished; faultless: a perfect gemstone 3. correct or precise: perfect timing 4. utter or absolute: a perfect stranger 5. excellent in all respects: a perfect day



Noah was complete, whole, lacking nothing, flawless, faultless, unblemished, in his 'gendering'. The Bible says that before the flood came they were "marrying" and "giving in marriage". It is possible that this means they were actively engaged in those pursuits. Men like David, Solomon, Abraham, and Jacob, for instance, would not be considered perfect in this respect because they took multiple wives, and/or commited adultery etc. Noah was not doing any of that.

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I believe that the Catholics believe that the use of the word perfect, means Noah was perfect, free of sin.They also believe that Job was perfect, free of sin. As was Mary. On the level that Jesus was sinless. Anyway, that what RCC members told me, & I believe I read it on thier web site a few years back.

Yet the Bible tells us that was only one perfect, sinless, that being Jesus.

Heb 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

1Pe 2:22 Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:

Yet, as for all others.

Ro 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Ro 3:9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
Ro 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Ro 3:11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
Ro 3:12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Ec 7:20 For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.

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Maybe I'm missing part of what you are saying. Yes, there was only one person who lived a sinless life - the Lord Jesus Christ. But the Bible never uses the word perfect in that way. In fact, even Jesus needed to be made perfect by suffering on the cross.

Hebrews 5:7  Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared;
    8  Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;  
    9  And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

When we understand the word perfect means complete, then it makes sense that Jesus needed to be made complete as our Saviour by dying for our sins. When referring to a person, it means to be complete as well - but mentally or spiritually - be ye therefore perfect, be a mature believer and be like God in this aspect (the context of Matthew 5:48 is dealing with loving our enemies - in other words, we can strive to obey this verse and follow the Lord's example); Walk before me and be thou perfect , grow up spiritually Abraham and don't make those same foolish decisions that got you in trouble before. Noah was a mature, godly believer, someone to be emulated.

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