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7 minutes ago, 1611mac said:

Well, I think anyone would agree that we all rejoice about the "good" done in his ministry...  In my mind that is a given...

But his teaching has not changed. False doctrine is to be rebuked. If I spouted false doctrine here you would rebuke me... you wouldn't ask how many people have been saved as a result of my preaching Christ.  And then, even at that, you'd have to decide how many "salvations" it takes to "quality" for non-rebuke.  We have to many compromising pragmatists!

 

Graham has never preached nor believed any false doctrine. Just because he made statements outside of the pulpit that seem false does not mean he believes those statements. Graham does not believe those false statements made outside of the pulpit. And it is illogical for anybody to believe that Graham believes those false statements made outside of the pulpit.

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27 minutes ago, John Yurich said:

Graham has never preached nor believed any false doctrine. Just because he made statements outside of the pulpit that seem false does not mean he believes those statements. Graham does not believe those false statements made outside of the pulpit. And it is illogical for anybody to believe that Graham believes those false statements made outside of the pulpit.

John, you are either continuing your game, or you are naive in your understanding.

Popes make statements from pulpits, Benny Hinn makes statements from pulpits, and all kinds of false teachers make statements from behind pulpits, yet the pulpit doesn't make the statement true.

If you actually believe what you're espousing, you have my deepest and most sincere regret for your naivety. However, if you are just espousing shenanigans that are supposedly pointed at Christianity, you are the one looking quite foolish...not us.

Which is it friend? 

Sadly...as much as I appreciated your "uniqueness" at first...I will no longer play your game at this point.

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3 hours ago, John Yurich said:

Graham has never preached nor believed any false doctrine. Just because he made statements outside of the pulpit that seem false does not mean he believes those statements. Graham does not believe those false statements made outside of the pulpit. And it is illogical for anybody to believe that Graham believes those false statements made outside of the pulpit.

Your reasoning is what is illogical. Billy Graham is only a sinful human like everyone else, and that's why we have to examine our beliefs daily to make sure our beliefs fall in line with the Bible. Even if an angel from heaven comes down preaching a "different" gospel, we would have to reject it as false teaching.

Even if, as you say, that false statements outside the pulpit don't really count as his personal beliefs, that would just make him look like a hypocrite and a liar.

I respect Billy Graham, but he isn't infallible when it comes to doctrine and theology.

Edited by Disciple.Luke

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4 hours ago, 1611mac said:

Well, I think anyone would agree that we all rejoice about the "good" done in his ministry...  In my mind that is a given...

But his teaching has not changed. False doctrine is to be rebuked. If I spouted false doctrine here you would rebuke me... you wouldn't ask how many people have been saved as a result of my preaching Christ.  And then, even at that, you'd have to decide how many "salvations" it takes to "qualify" for non-rebuke.  We have too many compromising pragmatists!

 

 Ya'll do what you want, I didn't intend to start a conflict, and I don't now. If my mild observation was offensive, I do apologize. That wasn't my intention. I don't think the subject matter is worth friction between us. But know this. Rebuking someone is going to them in person and telling them they did wrong. Talking to others about the wrong a third person did is gossiping, and even a fallen man of God is still a man of God, and we should be careful. You're right, I would rebuke you if you were on here doing as he did. But I would not get on another forum and spend pages of posts discussing your failures with others. That's all I was trying to point out. But it's all good. Again, I'm want no fuss.

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13 minutes ago, weary warrior said:

 Ya'll do what you want, I didn't intend to start a conflict, and I don't now. If my mild observation was offensive, I do apologize. That wasn't my intention. I don't think the subject matter is worth friction between us. But know this. Rebuking someone is going to them in person and telling them they did wrong. Talking to others about the wrong a third person did is gossiping, and even a fallen man of God is still a man of God, and we should be careful. You're right, I would rebuke you if you were on here doing as he did. But I would not get on another forum and spend pages of posts discussing your failures with others. That's all I was trying to point out. But it's all good. Again, I'm want no fuss.

WW, you nailed it.

Galatians 6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

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