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Trayvon Martin case: A collision of race, guns and Florida law

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Off topic, while in Chicago did you see any gangster activities. I've been reading a bit about them, seems they were cold blooded heartless killers.

No, all I saw was street gangs in some parts.

Not that the gangsters were good folks by any stretch, but at least back in the day they at least had a moral code they tried to follow. Most often this meant they tried to help their own neighborhood and help some locals out and try not to hurt women and children. That said, when they decided to go after someone, they were ruthless.

In a town not far from here, back during the days of prohibition, three cars came into town one day and back then there were not hardly that many cars in the whole town, and they drove through until they saw who they were looking for, then tommy guns started blazing and they shot a local guy that had been skimming money while running their booze.

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Supporters of Florida neighborhood-watch shooter wary of speaking out, fearing public backlash

Now, that is so sad, Zimmerman's father & mother have received death threats. Actually no one ought to receive death threats.

Seems Martins supporters are nothing but mobster minded caring nothing about right or wrong, only vengeance.

Rep. Bobby Rush dons hoodie in the House

And this man is ignorant, has to be a very bad congressman that has not the ability to make good judgments.. Edited by Jerry80871852

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Supporters of Florida neighborhood-watch shooter wary of speaking out, fearing public backlash

Now, that is so sad, Zimmerman's father & mother have received death threats. Actually no one ought to receive death threats.

Seems Martins supporters are nothing but mobster minded caring nothing about right or wrong, only vengeance.

Rep. Bobby Rush dons hoodie in the House

And this man is ignorant, has to be a very bad congressman that has not the ability to make good judgments..

Wow, now his parents are getting death threats? Crazy. Even if you believe he is guilty, his parents had nothing to do with it.

I heard about that...Ludicrous.

This story is really showing a lot about people...How so many lose reason when too much emotion comes into play. The bandwagon mentality.
God bless,
Joel ><>.

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Have you seen all the products these "Trayvon supporters" are selling? Even his mother has applied for patents so she can claim royalties, saying of course, the money would go to help others.

This whole thing has turned into mass marketing for money grubbers, leftist political hacks, black supremacist agitators, and those looking for a worldly bandwagon to jump on.

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Its nuts, people all across this country wearing hoddies & protesting against this indent, it really seems they care nothing about justice, just wanting & arrest, conviction, & punishment, no matter what took place.

I read something about a funeral director stated there's no indication that there was a fight between Trayvon & the shooter. now if Trayvon attacked the shooter from behind, holding him down, beating his head against the sidewalk, that Trayvon would receive no injuries, except for the bullet wound that stopped him.

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Its nuts, people all across this country wearing hoddies & protesting against this indent, it really seems they care nothing about justice, just wanting & arrest, conviction, & punishment, no matter what took place.

I read something about a funeral director stated there's no indication that there was a fight between Trayvon & the shooter. now if Trayvon attacked the shooter from behind, holding him down, beating his head against the sidewalk, that Trayvon would receive no injuries, except for the bullet wound that stopped him.


Funeral director or medical examiner? I wouldn't give much if any credence for a funeral director's opinion.

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It's All About Race Now
By Patrick J. Buchanan
Friday - March 30, 2012

If it had been a white teenager who was shot, and a 28-year-old black guy who shot him, the black guy would have been arrested.

So assert those demanding the arrest of George Zimmerman, who shot and killed Trayvon Martin.

And they may be right.

Yet if Trayvon had been shot dead by a black neighborhood watch volunteer, Jesse Jackson would not have been in a pulpit in Sanford, Fla., howling that he had been "murdered and martyred."

Maxine Waters would not be screaming "hate crime."

Rep. Hank Johnson would not be raging that Trayvon had been "executed." And ex-Black Panther Bobby Rush would not have been wearing a hoodie in the well of the House.

Which tells you what this whipped-up hysteria is all about.

It is not about finding the truth about what happened that night in Sanford when Zimmerman followed Trayvon in his SUV, and the two wound up in a fight, with Trayvon dead.

It is about the exacerbation of and the exploitation of racial conflict.

And it is about an irreconcilable conflict of visions about what the real America is in the year 2012.

Zimmerman "profiled" Trayvon, we are told. And perhaps he did.

But why? What did George Zimmerman, self-styled protector of his gated community, see that night from the wheel of his SUV?

He saw a male. And males are 90 percent of prison inmates. He saw a stranger over 6 feet tall. And he saw a black man or youth with a hood over his head.

Why would this raise Zimmerman's antennae?

Perhaps because black males between 16 and 36, though only 2 to 3 percent of the population, are responsible for a third of all our crimes.

In some cities, 40 percent of all black males are in jail or prison, on probation or parole, or have criminal records. This is not a product of white racism but of prosecutions and convictions of criminal acts.

Had Zimmerman seen a black woman or older man in his neighborhood, he likely would never have tensed up or called in.

For all the abuse he has received, Geraldo Rivera had a point.

Whenever cable TV runs hidden-camera footage of a liquor or convenience store being held up and someone

behind the counter being shot, the perp is often a black male wearing a hoodie.

Listening to the heated rhetoric coming from demonstrations around the country, from the Black Caucus and TV talkers -- about how America is a terrifying place for young black males to grow up in because of the constant danger from white vigilantes -- one wonders what country of the mind these people are living in.

The real America is a country where the black crime rate is seven times as high as the white rate. It is a country where white criminals choose black victims in 3 percent of their crimes, but black criminals choose white victims in 45 percent of their crimes.

Black journalists point to the racism manifest even in progressive cities, where cabs deliberately pass them by to pick up white folks down the block.

That this happens is undeniable. But, again, what is behind it?

As Heather Mac Donald of the Manhattan Institute has written, from January to June 2008 in New York City, 83 percent of all identified gun assailants were black and 15 percent were Hispanics.

Together, blacks and Hispanics accounted for 98 percent of gun assaults.

Translated: If a cabdriver is going to be mugged or murdered in New York City by a fare, 49 times out of 50 his assailant or killer will be black or Hispanic.

Fernando Mateo of the New York State Federation of Taxi Drivers has told his drivers, "Profile your passengers" for your own protection. "The God's honest truth is that 99 percent of the people that are robbing, stealing, killing these guys are blacks and Hispanics."

Fernando Mateo is himself black and Hispanic.

To much of America's black leadership and its media auxiliaries, what happened in Sanford was, as Jesse put it, that an innocent kid was "shot down in cold blood by a vigilante."

Yet, from police reports, witness statements, and the father and friends of Zimmerman, another picture emerges.

Zimmerman followed Trayvon, confronted him, and was punched in the nose, knocked flat on his back and jumped on, getting his head pounded, when he pulled his gun and fired. That Trayvon's body was found face down, not face up, would tend to support this.

But, to Florida Congresswoman Federica Wilson, "this sweet young boy ... was hunted down like a dog, shot on the street, and his killer is still at large."

Some Sanford police believed Zimmerman; others did not.

But now that it is being investigated by a special prosecutor, the FBI, the Justice Department and a coming grand jury, what is the purpose of this venomous portrayal of George Zimmerman?

As yet convicted of no crime, he is being crucified in the arena of public opinion as a hate-crime monster and murderer.

Is this our idea of justice?

No. But if the purpose here is to turn this into a national black-white face-off, instead of a mutual search for truth and justice, it is succeeding marvelously well.




SOURCE: http://buchanan.org/blog/its-all-about-race-now-5048

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I was looking around on Facebook and came upon a long discussion about this incident. Dozens of posters and all of the liberals commenting upon the only people who are against Obama and not supporting Trayvon, are "rich white Christian males". They some decided "Christian" wasn't the right term so they started talking about "rich white Christianist males"; whatever that means.

On and on the comments went talking about how "rich white Christianist males " are "literally insane" and "filled with hate". There were comments by blacks saying that anytime whites say they don't see skin color or care about that, it means they don't respect blacks. Comments even went on to include how "rich white Christianist males" insanely hate anyone not like them.

It's a shame, but there are millions in America who think like this. Worse yet, some of them believe it would be justified to do anything necessary to rid America of those who disagree with them, even while they cry out in outrage if someone suggests they don't have to stay here if they think America is so bad.

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One thing is true, most humans, no matter the color, whether Christian or non christian, wants laws that favor them, not laws that are actually fair.

And those you speak of, & what they're stating, are showing to be raciest.

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Why isn't Congressman Charles B. Rangel arrested for inciting racism? I heard prat of a speech he gave on TV, it was pure racist. Plus, him being a Congressman, & demanding police officer to break the law by arresting & jailing a man when the evidence does not suggest he broke the law. He is a poor excuse for a Congressman of this United States, for he does not believe in our laws nor support him, he support his own idea of the law.

Its quite clear, if a black man was arrested on the evidence they have against Zimmerman, he would cry long & loud to release the man, the evidence dose not support him being arrested & jailed.

And Jessie Jackson is no better, but at least he is not a lawmaker using his office against the laws of this land. Both of them use racism to squeeze money, support, out of their fellow black people.

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It's been taught in the schools for years now that only whites can be racist so anything blacks say or do can't be racist.

These people like Jackson and the rest know they can get away with saying these things and stirring up hatred and violence without anyone doing or really saying anything for fear of being called a racist.

The New Black Panthers have publicly put out a contract on George and yet I haven't seen the cops or Feds arresting any of them.

The "reverened" Al Sharpton has called for boycotts of any business that doesn't back them and warned of "civil disobedience", which everyone knows means rioting and looting, if they don't get their way. I've not heard Obama denounce such talk.

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It's been taught in the schools for years now that only whites can be racist so anything blacks say or do can't be racist.

These people like Jackson and the rest know they can get away with saying these things and stirring up hatred and violence without anyone doing or really saying anything for fear of being called a racist.

The New Black Panthers have publicly put out a contract on George and yet I haven't seen the cops or Feds arresting any of them.

The "reverened" Al Sharpton has called for boycotts of any business that doesn't back them and warned of "civil disobedience", which everyone knows means rioting and looting, if they don't get their way. I've not heard Obama denounce such talk.


Threatening civil disobedience & looting, he ought to be thrown out of Congress.
He is worse than a gangster.

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I was looking around on Facebook and came upon a long discussion about this incident. Dozens of posters and all of the liberals commenting upon the only people who are against Obama and not supporting Trayvon, are "rich white Christian males". They some decided "Christian" wasn't the right term so they started talking about "rich white Christianist males"; whatever that means.

On and on the comments went talking about how "rich white Christianist males " are "literally insane" and "filled with hate". There were comments by blacks saying that anytime whites say they don't see skin color or care about that, it means they don't respect blacks. Comments even went on to include how "rich white Christianist males" insanely hate anyone not like them.

It's a shame, but there are millions in America who think like this. Worse yet, some of them believe it would be justified to do anything necessary to rid America of those who disagree with them, even while they cry out in outrage if someone suggests they don't have to stay here if they think America is so bad.

Rich white Christian males? Fit all four of those, though the first one is mostly spiritual (it'd be physical, too, if we were talking beyond America here, compared to the rest of the world).

I got into it a bit on a news Site...There were tons of awful comments.
God bless,
Joel ><>.

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The New Black Panthers have publicly put out a contract on George and yet I haven't seen the cops or Feds arresting any of them.


The Feds won't lift a finger because they are friends of the Communist Black Panthers. Remember that even after they'd been tried and convicted of voter intimidation (or something like that), Comrade Eric Holder at Justice threw their file in the garbage. They have a green light to do whatever they want from the Obama Administration.

It's sad that within seconds of getting out of her car tonight, one of my relatives who is graduating with a degree in criminal justice, proclaimed Trayvon innocent, the witness a liar and the whole thing a sham . Do they not teach investigative skills anymore??? Another, a professing Christian and near and dear to my heart believes the same lies and sides with the evil heathens. So sad.

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The Feds won't lift a finger because they are friends of the Communist Black Panthers. Remember that even after they'd been tried and convicted of voter intimidation (or something like that), Comrade Eric Holder at Justice threw their file in the garbage. They have a green light to do whatever they want from the Obama Administration.

It's sad that within seconds of getting out of her car tonight, one of my relatives who is graduating with a degree in criminal justice, proclaimed Trayvon innocent, the witness a liar and the whole thing a sham . Do they not teach investigative skills anymore??? Another, a professing Christian and near and dear to my heart believes the same lies and sides with the evil heathens. So sad.

Unfortunately I deal with the same thing with a few "educated" folks and professing Christians. Why they buy the lie rather than thinking things through, I don't know. Sad to say, but it's just as near impossible to try and talk with them as it is with the diehard liberals.

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I don't know. Sad to say, but it's just as near impossible to try and talk with them as it is with the diehard liberals.


It seems to me John that it's because they are not saved despite what they profess. They are blind and cannot see.


Are they scared of the Black Panthers?


If you're asking me Jerry, they ARE the Black Panthers; in spirit of course. They share the same rotten, depraved and evil, satan serving ideology.

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Was George Zimmerman racist? Phone records don’t back claim

The news medial really blew this story & cause much racial trouble in this nation that will leave many hard feeling & very hard to repair. Will any of them learn a lesson? I doubt it, most will keep thinking this is going to be the big story & make me famous & rich & I must print it right now, there will be time later on to check it all out properly.

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They twist and push this story for political reasons. They hope to put Republicans on the defensive while getting blacks fired up with the idea if a Republican gets elected president then more blacks will be killed. They are also using this to fire up their liberal base, who just loves to feel as if they are fighting for black equality regardless of the facts.

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NBC Cans Producer After Zimmerman 911 Call

I have not enough information to say why the twist was put on this story, I believe the twist was put on it by more than just this one producer. Early on I stated with the information revealed it looked bad for Zimmerman, & it seems none of the articles did not have the whole truth within them.

Yet at this time it seem NBC has fired the producer that edited the the call to the police to make it seem that Zimmerman made racial statement towards Trayvon.

And with the information now coming out it seems that Zimmerman did not do the wrongs everyone stated he did, & that Trayvon was not the young innocent boy he was portrayed to have been.

The sad thing is those who mislead everyone, including the produce at NBC, the damage they have done cannot be fixed, 7 it will just cause more racial tension in the future.

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I noticed in the check-out line yesterday that People magazine has taken up the story. They have a cover pic of Trayvon as a nice, clean cut young boy of around 12, and all the subtitles supported the 'victimized minority' side of the story.

Edited by salyan

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