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Hi. With no disrespect to the people involved in the army, I was a little surprised to see an announcement about Veterans in the Forum.
Can somebody explain to me what is the Scriptural evidence to support militarization?
If this is the wrong place to ask the question I apologize.
Thank you
One in Christ,
D

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I saw that some people here support the army.
I wanted to know what were the Scriptural Passages that allow us to support such stance because I am assuming that Baptists support the army based on Scriptural evidence. Or maybe I am way off... regarding the support part I mean...
One in Christ,
D

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People mean different things by "support the army".

In general, most IFB support the military of their nation as being necessary and good for national defense.

There is not always agreement with regards to how the government chooses to use the military.

There are also some differences with regards to volunteering for today's military.

You would really need to be more specific as to what you are asking because this is a very broad topic.

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People mean different things by "support the army".

In general, most IFB support the military of their nation as being necessary and good for national defense.

There is not always agreement with regards to how the government chooses to use the military.

There are also some differences with regards to volunteering for today's military.

You would really need to be more specific as to what you are asking because this is a very broad topic.

Why is national defense good?
Why is military good?
One in Christ,
D

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You don't understand what would happen to a nation without defense?

Without defense against what? And why does the nation matter? What is good in the concept of a nation? I thought Jesus had died to reconcile all men to God. How does the construct of nation help this?
One in Christ,
D

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Once again, if you are unsaved you will not understand the Word of God.

There are matters in Scripture which pertain to nations, and that which pertains to individuals, and that which pertains to the church.

Unless you repent of your sins and are born again in Christ, none of this matters.

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If you don't want to answer an honest question... then don't post.
How was my question "pretentious" in any way?
If it was contentious it is probably because you don't like to be questioned on something you have no answer to.
If anyone wants to discuss salvation open a new topic... I created this topic to speak about militarization.
I have nothing else to add.
One in Christ,
D

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If you don't want to answer an honest question... then don't post.
How was my question "pretentious" in any way?
If it was contentious it is probably because you don't like to be questioned on something you have no answer to.
If anyone wants to discuss salvation open a new topic... I created this topic to speak about militarization.
I have nothing else to add.
One in Christ,
D

You have made your intentions here very clear. Why continue with the fraud?

All your "logic" and questions will avail you nothing if you enter eternity without being born again in Christ. It's time to give full consideration to your eternal soul, not pointless diversions.

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What fraud?
One in Christ,
D

If you were sincere your first priority would be with regards to your salvation as well as the salvation of your girlfriend.

You would also not be ashamed or afraid to discuss what church you attend or other such matters.

At this point, only the condition of your eternal soul matters. Are you content you spend eterninty in the torments of hell? Are you content with that possible fate for your girlfriend? Would it not be in both your interests to obey God concerning salvation and be assured of an eternity with Christ?

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