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      Psalms 119:1-8                                         Sep. 5 - Oct. 2, 2019
      1 ALEPH. Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD.
      2 Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, and that seek him with the whole heart.
      3 They also do no iniquity: they walk in his ways.
      4 Thou hast commanded us to keep thy precepts diligently.
      5 O that my ways were directed to keep thy statutes!
      6 Then shall I not be ashamed, when I have respect unto all thy commandments.
      7 I will praise thee with uprightness of heart, when I shall have learned thy righteous judgments.
      8 I will keep thy statutes: O forsake me not utterly.
      The following verse stood out to me...
      5 O that my ways were directed to keep thy statutes!
      At first glance it seemed to me this person’s soul is poured out with intense desire to have God’s direction in keeping His Word.
      I made a small wood fire in our backyard for my granddaughter, Julia, since she would be staying overnight with us. My wife and Julia stayed outside at the fire for about half an hour. Then, I found myself alone to watch the fire die out on a particularly lovely evening. So I took my verse from above and began to repeat it for memorization. As I repeated the verse, I tried to contemplate the words and apply them to what I was seeing around me. 
      The moon and stars were out now peering through the scattered clouds above.
      [Genesis 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. Genesis 1:17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, Genesis 1:18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.]
      Thought 1         
      The moon has stayed his course since the day God created him, also the stars, obeying the statutes directed by God from the first day they were created. Can you imagine God’s direction to the Moon and stars, “moon you will have a path through the sky above the earth, stars you will occupy the firmament above the moon and be clearly visible in the cloudless night sky.”
      Then, the trees, grass, even the air we breathe obey the statues God gave them from the beginning. None of these creations have souls, none have hearts, none have intelligence, but they all observe God’s statutes, His instructions for their limited time on earth.
      Thought 2
      What if we were like the moon, stars, trees, grass, or the other creations which have no soul? We would be directed to keep God’s statutes without choosing to keep them. This is not the image of God, there would be no dominion over other creatures, or over the earth. We would not be capable of experiencing the joy and peace of learning the love of God
      Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
      Philippians 4:7 And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
      Thought 3 (October 2, 2019)
      Is the psalmist pleading God to force God’s statutes to become the man’s ways? No, he is speaking of his own failure in keeping God’s statutes and his desire to keep them, very much like Paul in Romans 7:14-25.
      God doesn’t work through force to turn men from their ways that they would desire His statutes or desire God Himself. Men must reject (repent) put aside his own ways and voluntarily seek God and His statutes.

Don't Spank Your Kids or They'll Turn out Like Rick

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Whenever I see these articles it either makes me laugh, or makes me a little angry. I'm a second-generation Christian who was spanked as a kid, a lot. So many times....

Anyways, I've never smoked, done drugs, or took a drink. I saved sex for after marriage, and in fact the only woman I've ever kissed was my wife. As far as "gray matter" goes, I have Bible College degree and a secular degree, have written two books, and have the brains and diligence to pay my bills (800+ credit score) and keep our home even when times are tough. I'm not the smartest guy around, but I guide our home according to biblical financial principles and I've seen God honor that over and over again.

My wife and I have been married for eight years and have a wonderful relationship. We spank our kids, and get comments all the time about how happy, well behaved, and respectful they are.

There's nothing special about me in of myself. I have a rotten, dirty, selfish old nature that rears it's ugly head every day. If left unchecked, I know my flesh and I know where it would take me. I attribute anything good that I am today to God, His word, and the application of biblical principles by my parents. One of the clearest biblical principles is to spank (not abuse) your children and raise them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.

I don't say all of this without knowing there are a ton of second-generation Christians out there that were raised just like me and are doing a good job with their families. I also know that sometimes kids can be raised right and still go off into the world; I've seen that before, and I've seen them come back too. What I haven't seen is a kid that was spanked, and raised biblically, be a complete mess when it comes to functioning as a member of society. Even if they give up on God, they still are decent, upstanding people that have a firm grasp of personal responsibility.

Forget what the "experts" say.

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Reminds me of a professor I had who was very liberal and, of course, very anti-spanking. Funny thing is, he would often use his children in his examples (he taught various sociology courses) and they were all disfunctional and nothing most people would want their children to be like.

Naturally, something that God commands and something Christians have practiced successfuly for 2,000 years, comes under attack by the lost, worldly servants of the devil. What better way to corrupt families, and therefore communities, societies and whole nations, than by convincing parents not to properly parent. Then we get what we see today, generations of children grown up spoiled and undisciplined, many of which are now adults and carrying on in the same way.

I will continue to trust and obey God, the world can keep their worldly "wisdom".

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Always try & do as the One & only true Expert says, & even if things go wrong it will not be because your disobeyed the Father.

Some children will rebel against their fathers & mothers Christian teachings, but we must remember, God gave us humans free will, & the children are using their free will to rebel against God. And that surely does not mean God's way is not the right way.

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I believe anyone of us could rip that article, "

Spanking kids can cause long-term harm: Canada study

" apart and expose it as pure gobbledygook. Secular history alone exposes this as pure bunk.

I've got a better title for his article, Satan's generational success - methods to heathenism.

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:ot: What I REALLY want to know, Rick, is...is that YOU in your picture? :coffee::11backtotopic:


Ha! No, that is the great philospher and theologian Inigo Montoya, who, along with his companion Fezzik, confounded the dobolical heretic Vizzini while on the journey to the cliffs of Guilder.
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(The Princess Bride)

Oh, okay...never saw it, so didn't recognize the reference.

Back to the OP - it is a real shame that people cannot see the link between well-behaved children who turn into welll-behaved adults and proper spanking as children, and the link between children/adults with no self-control who were never properly disciplined.
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Last night while I was sitting at the Houston/Bush Airport, there was a mother and a 2-3 y/o girl. Child was wild, running all over and would not scream, but screech when the mother would "try" to control her. Child would get up again, run off, mother would sit and "play" on her phone, texting or whatever, then look up and call and wonder where her child went. Later she was on the phone talking to someone telling them that "she couldn't control the child." Not once did I observe any raising of the voice or "commanding" the child. Didn't even hear her threaten with a "time out." Child was out of control all the way to Cleveland. Mother seemed totally clueless.

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We can't spank our kids, it might hurt their self-esteem (sarcasm added)...


Yes, if you were to injury your children's self-esteem, & it might prevent them from becoming outlaws & such, & might even have a part in helping them understand there is one true God, a Heaven, & a Hell, convincing the to walk in the ways of the Lord..

I have read that the infidels & unbelievers thinks the Christian father & mother is unfit to raise children, 7 their children should be taken from them.
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Last night while I was sitting at the Houston/Bush Airport, there was a mother and a 2-3 y/o girl. Child was wild, running all over and would not scream, but screech when the mother would "try" to control her. Child would get up again, run off, mother would sit and "play" on her phone, texting or whatever, then look up and call and wonder where her child went. Later she was on the phone talking to someone telling them that "she couldn't control the child." Not once did I observe any raising of the voice or "commanding" the child. Didn't even hear her threaten with a "time out." Child was out of control all the way to Cleveland. Mother seemed totally clueless.


Sad, one day her child may come up missing, & she will probably think, I was a good mother & always did what was best for my child.
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Our church provides a meeting place for a troop of Girl Scouts, the organization that provides leadership training for young girls. GS Pledge and GS Law: http://gstroop680.org/pledge.htm These girls have a great deal of learning/changing to do in order to live up to the law they pledge to uphold. Spare the rod and spoil the child is highly evident during and after these meetings.

From what I see in society today, you couldn't pay me enough to teach school these days. When I grew up spanking was common. Parents, grandparents, aunts, teachers, etc. had full authority to swat a bottom when a child was out of line. Even a perfect stranger could speak up and correct a child without fear of being arrested. BTW, our parents had a rule -- if you get spanked at school, you'll get another one when you get home. They meant it and we knew it. Thus, our parents never had to carry out that act of punishment. And that was without behavior modification medications!!!!

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Our church provides a meeting place for a troop of Girl Scouts, the organization that provides leadership training for young girls. GS Pledge and GS Law: http://gstroop680.org/pledge.htm These girls have a great deal of learning/changing to do in order to live up to the law they pledge to uphold. Spare the rod and spoil the child is highly evident during and after these meetings.

From what I see in society today, you couldn't pay me enough to teach school these days. When I grew up spanking was common. Parents, grandparents, aunts, teachers, etc. had full authority to swat a bottom when a child was out of line. Even a perfect stranger could speak up and correct a child without fear of being arrested. BTW, our parents had a rule -- if you get spanked at school, you'll get another one when you get home. They meant it and we knew it. Thus, our parents never had to carry out that act of punishment. And that was without behavior modification medications!!!!


To be honest, I cannot understand how a Christian can teach in today's public schools. Its an ungodly atmospheric.
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There's a difference between spanking and beating. Good parents spank in love, bad parents beat out of anger, frustration or just pure vindictiveness. I think that those that punish children out of love and discipline with the right reasons are few and far between. So I suppose that's why we also have laws that forbid corporal punishment. Protect the children and all that. I'm one of those that was spanked alot, single Christian mom with three kids. Most time out of love, others just pure frustration. I rebelled badly but like the bible says "Pro 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it."

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True, a big difference in spanking & beating a child. A parent needs to know when to spank, & when to just give the child a talking to. If done properly in their younger years after they get into their teen years spanking will only take place in extreme situations.

To me the problem is many parents just threaten their children, over & over in their younger years, & the children learn this. I see many of these children at Walmart, they seem to be always throwing a fit if father or mother don't buy them what they want. Its even embarrassing to watch.

And of course so many children comes from broken homes, & the children have learned how to use father against mother, & mother against father, & the children are very misbehaved.

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Children, like dogs (oooooh, think I might upset a few with that) need to learn boundaries. I train both the same way. The RULE OF THREE. Once, twice - then the applicable punishment. Most times they stop at two :knuppel:

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