President Obama orders Justice Department to stop defending constitutionality of Defense of Marriage Act.

[trc123]

President Obama orders Justice Department to stop defending constitutionality of Defense of Marriage Act.

How can the President simply instruct government not to enforce or defend laws?

This is akin to the Democrats in Wisconsin and Indiana running away from their responsibilities just because it is difficult and they want to take their ball home!

I have now lost any of the tiny bit of respect I did have for the Democratic party leadership (and I only a smidgen left for Republicans)!

[HappyChristian]

President Obama orders Justice Department to stop defending constitutionality of Defense of Marriage Act.

How can the President simply instruct government not to enforce or defend laws?

This is akin to the Democrats in Wisconsin and Indiana running away from their responsibilities just because it is difficult and they want to take their ball home!

I have now lost any of the tiny bit of respect I did have for the Democratic party leadership (and I only a smidgen left for Republicans)!

He cannot constitutionally instruct in this manner.

The problem lies within two things: one, leaving God out of governance, and, two, the mistaken idea that those in elected office are rulers rather than servants. Both citizens and elected have forgotten both, to our country's peril.

[John81]

This is fairly typical, even if this incident is more blatant than some others. Presidents often instruct "their" justice department to focus on or ignore various things depending upon their leanings.

Obama and the Dems have thus far been unable to be rid of this Act so in the meantime they have decided they will ignore it until it finally does go away.

[John81]

He cannot constitutionally instruct in this manner.

The problem lies within two things: one, leaving God out of governance, and, two, the mistaken idea that those in elected office are rulers rather than servants. Both citizens and elected have forgotten both, to our country's peril.

Obama isn't a Christian so we can't expect him to conduct himself as such. You are correct, the main problem is that God is left out. God is left out of consideration by most in government and left out by most who vote. The results are what we see today.

Citizens elected him as leader. While a president should be a servant-leader, that notion died out in the 19th century and since that time presidents have viewed themselves as being not only the leader, but the one who is to determine what's best for everyone and push for it regardless of the wishes of the people. Unfortunately, this pattern spread to the congress as well, and just as unfortunate, the people have accepted it and continually help to perpetuate it by reelecting offenders to office time and again. Which points us back to your first point, leaving out God, which is the root of the problem.

[HappyChristian]

Obama isn't a Christian so we can't expect him to conduct himself as such. You are correct, the main problem is that God is left out. God is left out of consideration by most in government and left out by most who vote. The results are what we see today.

Citizens elected him as leader. While a president should be a servant-leader, that notion died out in the 19th century and since that time presidents have viewed themselves as being not only the leader, but the one who is to determine what's best for everyone and push for it regardless of the wishes of the people. Unfortunately, this pattern spread to the congress as well, and just as unfortunate, the people have accepted it and continually help to perpetuate it by reelecting offenders to office time and again. Which points us back to your first point, leaving out God, which is the root of the problem.

It isn't just a "notion," John. It's the way our government was set up (I know you realize that, but wanted to point out that notion doesn't fit). You are right that the POTUS has taken more on himself than he ought for many years, and people have allowed it. But it isn't just the POTUS. It is every elected officeholder. And Christians are in large part to blame because they have excused their laziness by declaring that office holders are rulers and therefore we must submit...

I never implied that BO was a Christian - that fact is the reason that I stated he cannot constitutionally instruct the DOJ to quit defending the DoM Act. In actual fact, if our Constitution were truly followed, it wouldn't matter if a Christian were POTUS or not: the lines are drawn distinctly in there, and, if followed, things would be done right. Our founders were wise in that way...hoping and trusting their posterity would continue in that wisdom of holding our elected servants to the lines drawn. Sadly, their posterity has not. And we come to a BO administration because of it...

[John81]

It isn't just a "notion," John. It's the way our government was set up (I know you realize that, but wanted to point out that notion doesn't fit). You are right that the POTUS has taken more on himself than he ought for many years, and people have allowed it. But it isn't just the POTUS. It is every elected officeholder. And Christians are in large part to blame because they have excused their laziness by declaring that office holders are rulers and therefore we must submit...

I never implied that BO was a Christian - that fact is the reason that I stated he cannot constitutionally instruct the DOJ to quit defending the DoM Act. In actual fact, if our Constitution were truly followed, it wouldn't matter if a Christian were POTUS or not: the lines are drawn distinctly in there, and, if followed, things would be done right. Our founders were wise in that way...hoping and trusting their posterity would continue in that wisdom of holding our elected servants to the lines drawn. Sadly, their posterity has not. And we come to a BO administration because of it...

That was my point, as established, the president should be a servant leader but now it's viewed as just a notion from days gone by.

Those holding office in the government are our leaders and we are to submit to them but that doesn't mean we have to keep voting for them or support their wickedness.

Christians in America have failed to live by the Word and in the process have dropped the ball greatly. Christians withdrew from politics wrongly believing America was set as a Christian nation and would remain one. Christians withdrew from many aspects of society. Christianity was also infected by the feminist movement, which took over many churches and Christian causes, and helped bring about disaster.

None of us have ever lived when the Constitution was followed or even seriously considered. The corruption and wickedness are firmly entrenched and nothing short of a revival in America stands any chance of changing that.

[Anon]

Impeach.

[Guest]

Obamma's appointed cabinet leader for the justice dept. must be stopped.

DADT...now NODADT...(I sure know dat) can't be enforced because there is public law preventing it's smooth implimentation...

Defense of Marriage Act is the short title of a federal law of the United States passed on September 21, 1996 as Public Law No. 104-199, 110 Stat. 2419. Its provisions are codified at 1 U.S.C. § 7 and 28 U.S.C. § 1738C. Under the law, also known as DOMA, no state (or other political subdivision within the United States) needs to treat as a marriage a same-sex relationship considered a marriage in another state (DOMA, Section 2); the federal government defines marriage as a legal union between one man and one woman (DOMA, Section 3).

This is the next attack on God's Word. Now be aware...

Senate Dem to Introduce Repeal of"Defense of Marriage Act"

I'm guessing there is a trade in the wind (trade-wind...ha!) a purely bad health care bill for the DOMA. Isn't that what everyone (LOST) wants?

[Brother Rick]

Did I mention we're having a baby boy in July?

[John81]

Did I mention we're having a baby boy in July?

We are! How'd that happen??? :unsure:

[JerryNumbers]

House Democrats try to repeal anti-gay marriage law

How can any Christians support the Demcorat Party in any manner, its clear, they uphold evil, and stand against righteousness, and they did not just get there when deciding to repeal the marriage act.

I recall my congressman saying, this law would clearly prevent legalizing of same sex marriages. Seems the only thing that is set in concrete is that our president and congressmen can do as they wish.

[John81]

OB ate my last attempt to post here...

Many professing Christians are willing to accept a politician as a Christian if they say they are one or if they happen to quote something from the Bible, attend a church or say a prayer. Many presidents and many more congressmen have been accepted as Christians when they were not biblical Christians at all.

Most professing Christians cast their votes based upon personal preference, how they think they can benefit most, who will tend to their pet causes, traditions or view of patriotism. They are willing to put these matters ahead of God and ahead of serving Christ.

[chev1958]

Interesting how the president declares DOMA unconstitutional without a court decision stating such, yet continues to pursue the federal takeover of healthcare that has been declared unconstitutional by the courts (at least twice, I think).

[John81]

Interesting how the president declares DOMA unconstitutional without a court decision stating such, yet continues to pursue the federal takeover of healthcare that has been declared unconstitutional by the courts (at least twice, I think).

Doncha know, Obama knows best, so it's his duty to force his will upon us.