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Whether it's hair or a covering it's apparent most Christian women are in violation.

While out and about today I looked at several Christian publications and some bulletins and posters advertising Christian groups and events. One thing they all had in common were Christian women with not only short hair, but very short hair.

I've noticed this year it seems there is a trend for Christian women to have their hair cut so short in the back that from behind, if you could only see their head, you would think it was a man in front of you.

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One of my least favorite topics...


That's true for most Christian women too but it's yet an important topic because God chose to address it in Scripture.

It's interesting that some churches are quick to ensure their men have short hair, and if any man's hair grows long or someone new begins attending, they are quick to discuss the issue with them. However, they can have a congregation full of women with very short hair, often in positions within the church, and the pastor, elders and members look the other way and are silent.

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the pastor, elders and members look the other way and are silent

What's the old saying? When Momma ain't happy, ain't nobody happy. Most pastors don't want to stir up a hornet's nest with the womenfolk.

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What's the old saying? When Momma ain't happy, ain't nobody happy. Most pastors don't want to stir up a hornet's nest with the womenfolk.


That's a fact!

This is also why women basically run many churches today (and in some denominations they do run the church) and why many Christian families are unbalanced.

It's a shame Christian pastors and Christian men in general are more afraid of upsetting women than they are of not obeying God.

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I agree guys, but the problem isn't primarily in the women. If men are in their correct place, the women are much more likely to follow. Church boys these days (who call themselves men) are not fulfilling their responsibilities and the women then take over leadership in the family and the church. The men must repent first before telling the women what to wear on their heads or how long to keep their hair.

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I agree guys, but the problem isn't primarily in the women. If men are in their correct place, the women are much more likely to follow. Church boys these days (who call themselves men) are not fulfilling their responsibilities and the women then take over leadership in the family and the church. The men must repent first before telling the women what to wear on their heads or how long to keep their hair.


Absolutely! If Christian pastors, husbands, dads, and other men of God would truly fear God more than woman and preach, teach and expect the whole Word of God to be followed, we wouldn't have all these Christian women with short hair, wearing immodest clothes, taking leadership roles in the church, becoming pastors, disrespecting men with their attitudes and speach, etc.

Men are called by God to lead and it's so sad that fear of women's reactions prevents them from obeying the Word of God.

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Absolutely! If Christian pastors, husbands, dads, and other men of God would truly fear God more than woman and preach, teach and expect the whole Word of God to be followed, we wouldn't have all these Christian women with short hair, wearing immodest clothes, taking leadership roles in the church, becoming pastors, disrespecting men with their attitudes and speach, etc.

Men are called by God to lead and it's so sad that fear of women's reactions prevents them from obeying the Word of God.



I think you hit the nail on the head....

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My wife always wears a hat as she is from a Brethren background. She is the only one in our church who does, although one lady used to wear nice hats while her husband was aalive and he was also from a Brethren background. We have a Brethren couple who come to us often on Sunday evenings as their meeting is so small they don't have an eevening service anymore. I once said to the wife, "I like it when you come as then my wife is not the only one to wear a hat." She answered "My husband would not let me come without one."

We have been to a Brethren meeting house where they have scarves available for any woman who turns up without a hat and a sign asking them to use one.

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I believe that it is long hair that is her covering 1 Cor. 11:15), but when I was a Catholic, most, if not all, of the women wore hats! I used to wonder why, and no one could really explain it then.

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I believe that it is long hair that is her covering 1 Cor. 11:15), but when I was a Catholic, most, if not all, of the women wore hats! I used to wonder why, and no one could really explain it then.

I'm inclined to agree, brother, as those verses being at the end of the discourse seem to suggest that. However, I think history and the earlier verses disagree...
God bless,
Joel ><>.

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I paid some extra attention to women going to and coming from churches this morning and what I saw was disturbing.

The number of women with those very short hair cuts which could get them mistaken for a man from behind were too numerous to count. The number of those with other styles of very short hair were just as many.

Women with hair obviously long were sadly few.

In doing some checking I found out many of the women with the shortest hair were public school teachers and Sunday school teachers or held other positions in their churches. Interesting that the women with the most man-like hair styles are also the women that hold authority positions.

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Wasn't the context in which Paul wrote this to the church in Corinth that in which there was the temple to Aphrodite in which there was service by female prostitutes who's sign to others was their shaven heads?

Seemed to me that Paul was telling the Christian woman of Corinth to have hair as a covering to distinguish themselves from Aphrodite's followers.

Given that context, and the portion of Scriptures in Corinthians dealing with this, I would think that hair is the covering and not a veil, lace, scarf or other cloth hat.

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Revelation 9:8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.

What would distinguish it as "hair of women"? Red, brown, black, blonde, straight, curly?
Mem's hair also has all of those characteristics.

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Revelation 9:8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.

What would distinguish it as "hair of women"? Red, brown, black, blonde, straight, curly?
Mem's hair also has all of those characteristics.


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I paid some extra attention to women going to and coming from churches this morning and what I saw was disturbing.

The number of women with those very short hair cuts which could get them mistaken for a man from behind were too numerous to count. The number of those with other styles of very short hair were just as many.

Women with hair obviously long were sadly few.

In doing some checking I found out many of the women with the shortest hair were public school teachers and Sunday school teachers or held other positions in their churches. Interesting that the women with the most man-like hair styles are also the women that hold authority positions.

Women having short (and men long) grieves me immensely. I'm sad to hear your report, brother. :icon_sad:
Wasn't the context in which Paul wrote this to the church in Corinth that in which there was the temple to Aphrodite in which there was service by female prostitutes who's sign to others was their shaven heads?

Seemed to me that Paul was telling the Christian woman of Corinth to have hair as a covering to distinguish themselves from Aphrodite's followers.

Given that context, and the portion of Scriptures in Corinthians dealing with this, I would think that hair is the covering and not a veil, lace, scarf or other cloth hat.

If that is indeed the case, I agree completely. No matter what, though, it's obvious women should have long hair and men short.

Revelation 9:8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.

What would distinguish it as "hair of women"? Red, brown, black, blonde, straight, curly?
Mem's hair also has all of those characteristics.

Agreed, brother.

Thanks for all of the comments, everyone.
God bless,
Joel ><>.

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Women with hair obviously long were sadly few.



I'm not trying to start a debate or anything, but what length would "obviously long" hair be considered? Not trying to get legalistic or anything, I'm not expecting something like "2 inches below the ears" or something ridiculous, but just in general what people's opinions are of what would constitute obviously long hair.

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I paid some extra attention to women going to and coming from churches this morning and what I saw was disturbing.

The number of women with those very short hair cuts which could get them mistaken for a man from behind were too numerous to count. The number of those with other styles of very short hair were just as many.

Women with hair obviously long were sadly few.

In doing some checking I found out many of the women with the shortest hair were public school teachers and Sunday school teachers or held other positions in their churches. Interesting that the women with the most man-like hair styles are also the women that hold authority positions.


John, by no means am I excusing young women with short hair, but when you took note of who had very short hair and who did not, did you note their age? Seems to me that when I've ever looked around at church, I've rarely seen an elderly woman with long hair.....as in shoulder length and longer. Most have short hair that just touches their collar. I know that many people would not say that they would mistake any of these women though, for a man. However, the Bible says that the older women should teach the younger women.....and I think in this area, they have. Short hair is short hair, no matter what the style is. I think I will go hide for now. :hide:

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We know from 1 Corinthians 11 that women are to have their head covered. What is their covering? Hair? A veil? What is it?

What does the Lord say?
God bless,
Joel ><>.
2 Chronicles 7:14.

It can't be speaking of hair or this verse would not make any sense:

1 Corinthians 11:6 (KJV) For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.

If the covering were hair, that verse would be saying

For if the woman have no hair, let her also be shaved bald: but if it be for a woman to have no hair, let her have hair.

Obviously, the covering was something other than hair.

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A lot of that could be cultural as well. Folks just don't wear hats anymore, except for ballcaps.


Around this part of the world quite a few black women wear hats to church, I will see them occasionally around town. I notice for the most part the blacks seem to dress better for church than white people, even most of the black men were at least dress slacks and shirt, many wear suits.

If I remember correctly hats were nearly phased out by the time I hit 16. I don't suppose my grand mother ever went to church without a hat. Both her and mother had several of them.

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I'm not trying to start a debate or anything, but what length would "obviously long" hair be considered? Not trying to get legalistic or anything, I'm not expecting something like "2 inches below the ears" or something ridiculous, but just in general what people's opinions are of what would constitute obviously long hair.


The best I've heard this put is that if one has to wonder whether their hair is long enough then it isn't. A woman's hair should be obviously long, not short, not some length that folks might think is somewhere in between, but obviously long.

The same applies to men, in the opposite manner of course, their hair should be obviously short, not maybe short and certainly not long.

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