Administrators HappyChristian Posted May 5, 2011 Administrators Share Posted May 5, 2011 I believe that movies, like forms of artistic expression, should be alloted a fair amount of leeway. If the fast beat, up tempo, music (rock) is being played in a movie for the purpose of conveying suspense or action, then I think It's fine. It's part of the director's artistic freedom in conveying emotions and scenarios. If its gratuitous and being played to convey the actual message delievered by the illicit lyrics, then it's wrong. It all has to do with context. Yes, music has to do with context. But by the same token, it does not need to be harsh music to create suspense or any other mood. There are many classical pieces that are beautifully done and are able to build a climax. One of my favorite pieces by Ravel is Bolero. And every time I hear it, I see Indians riding through the desert, and then chasing the white man, then riding slowly...it has to do with a movie I saw many years ago that actually used Bolero for such a thing. Listen to it, picturing what I've said and you'll see what I mean. Action can be conveyed by classical music, too, as can sadness, love, happiness,etc. Rock music isn't necessary to convey mood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JerryNumbers Posted May 5, 2011 Members Share Posted May 5, 2011 Most movies are about sex, divorcing, murder, cheating, gambling, with people drinking, behaving in a manner a child of God should never, so why give them a place in ones life.Years back I said I like westerns TV shows, like Gundsmoke, when I was growing up, and I saw no harm in them. I was 100% wrong, most or at least many of Gunsmoke shows were filmed around the setting of people solving their problems in a saloon, and when the problem was solved, back to the saloon and drinking. I wish my mother would have never let me watch the junk, and junk is all it is, worldly junk at that.Besides that, how can a child of God be interested in such junk? And how can they call it entertaining?Yes, I know, its unusual to have someone stand against such stuff, junk, way to many are in love with the world and its offerings, including many pastors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted May 6, 2011 Members Share Posted May 6, 2011 Most movies are about sex, divorcing, murder, cheating, gambling, with people drinking, behaving in a manner a child of God should never, so why give them a place in ones life.Years back I said I like westerns TV shows, like Gundsmoke, when I was growing up, and I saw no harm in them. I was 100% wrong, most or at least many of Gunsmoke shows were filmed around the setting of people solving their problems in a saloon, and when the problem was solved, back to the saloon and drinking. I wish my mother would have never let me watch the junk, and junk is all it is, worldly junk at that.Besides that, how can a child of God be interested in such junk? And how can they call it entertaining?Yes, I know, its unusual to have someone stand against such stuff, junk, way to many are in love with the world and its offerings, including many pastors. I've noticed that many of the shows I saw in my childhood and youth which I thought were good, decent shows, after being a Christian for many years and then seeing them again I was shocked at how much sin was glorified and promoted in so many of those old "safe" shows. Gunsmoke is one of those shows, as it would happen. Bonanza would be another. Even the Rifleman, which may have carried a higher moral message often, had episodes where Christians were depicted as crazy, violent and intolerant. Feminism was rampant in all these shows, even in some Rifleman episodes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JerryNumbers Posted May 6, 2011 Members Share Posted May 6, 2011 I've noticed that many of the shows I saw in my childhood and youth which I thought were good, decent shows, after being a Christian for many years and then seeing them again I was shocked at how much sin was glorified and promoted in so many of those old "safe" shows. Gunsmoke is one of those shows, as it would happen. Bonanza would be another. Even the Rifleman, which may have carried a higher moral message often, had episodes where Christians were depicted as crazy, violent and intolerant. Feminism was rampant in all these shows, even in some Rifleman episodes. Amen John. It took me a while to understand that, and I know its a hard thing to break, but one can break loose from it, that is with the help of God. I fear many do not have that help, and are living under their own power. 2Co 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us. Of course the lost person trying to live the Christian life will fail miserably. For they're trying to live Christ like while still living in the flesh and without the Holy Spirit having taken up adobe within them. Plus, living without the Holy Spirit, without being saved, they will not realize that its wrong to watch all of those TV shows, and go to the movies, in fact they will defend watching TV, going to the movies, listening to evil worldly music. I know of one pastor that encouraged his people to attend a movies that was R rated from behind the pulpit on Sunday morning, he said it had nudity and bad language, In fact she said they attended this movie on a Saturday night and it was one of the best movies they had seen. Oh, he did say, you might want to cover the ears of your real young children part of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted May 6, 2011 Members Share Posted May 6, 2011 Most professing Christians are unwilling to separate themselves from the entertainment of this world. If they avoid a tiny part they see this as "separation" and feel comfortable taking in the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JerryNumbers Posted May 6, 2011 Members Share Posted May 6, 2011 Most don't believe in any separation from the wicked, I really believe they feel if they do they will miss out on to much. PS. Of course many know no difference in wickedness & righteousness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted May 7, 2011 Members Share Posted May 7, 2011 Yes, and this is why whether we talk about movies, music, politics or war, most professing Christians want things their way rather than the biblical way. JerryNumbers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members farouk Posted July 20, 2011 Members Share Posted July 20, 2011 I have never thought of it that way, thanks for sharing I have thought about the music in movies, and God has recently challenged me on this. Its bad when it doesn't bother us to hear it. There are even some stores I can't stay in very long (Aero is one) because of their music. Melodys: I know what you mean; there are some stores where I can't even hear what the store assistant is saying; it's so loud. But if it's not so loud, I guess it's more subjective. Blessings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Invicta Posted July 21, 2011 Members Share Posted July 21, 2011 (edited) I don't go to the cinema. Maany years ago I found that I got a splitting headache every time I went, so I stopped going. My grandfather used to do to the cinema in its early days to have a sleep it cost him ½d, about 1c at the time. He called it "Going for my hap'th of dark. A few weeks ago I looked at the film reviews in our tv listings and was shocked at some of the things that were shown. Here are some from the last weekend and the reviewer's comments.Saturday Time Bandits, UK 1981 violence, swearing. Jack, US 1996, Edited for swearing. El Dorado, US 1967 The Others, US/Sp, 2001, Some violence Capitalism, US/Can 2009, Swearing Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels, UK 1998, May be edited for violence, swearing, drg abuse, nudity. The Money Pit, US 1985, Swearing. The Dreamers, Fr/It/UK/US 2003, Swearing, sex scenes, nudity.Sunday Captain Ron, US 1992 Edited for language, nudity. Finding Nemo, US 2003 Australia, US/Aust 2008, Violence, edited for language. In the Line of Fire. US 1993, Violence, edited for some of its language. Empire of the Sun, US 1987, Some violence, swearing. I've loved you so long, Fr/Ger. 2008 Full Metal Jacket UK, 1987. May be edited for violence, swearing. Some weeks it is worse. Edited July 21, 2011 by Invicta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JerryNumbers Posted July 21, 2011 Members Share Posted July 21, 2011 I don't go to the cinema. Maany years ago I found that I got a splitting headache every time I went, so I stopped going. My grandfather used to do to the cinema in its early days to have a sleep it cost him ½d, about 1c at the time. He called it "Going for my hap'th of dark. A few weeks ago I looked at the film reviews in our tv listings and was shocked at some of the things that were shown. Here are some from the last weekend and the reviewer's comments.Saturday Time Bandits, UK 1981 violence, swearing. Jack, US 1996, Edited for swearing. El Dorado, US 1967 The Others, US/Sp, 2001, Some violence Capitalism, US/Can 2009, Swearing Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels, UK 1998, May be edited for violence, swearing, drg abuse, nudity. The Money Pit, US 1985, Swearing. The Dreamers, Fr/It/UK/US 2003, Swearing, sex scenes, nudity.Sunday Captain Ron, US 1992 Edited for language, nudity. Finding Nemo, US 2003 Australia, US/Aust 2008, Violence, edited for language. In the Line of Fire. US 1993, Violence, edited for some of its language. Empire of the Sun, US 1987, Some violence, swearing. I've loved you so long, Fr/Ger. 2008 Full Metal Jacket UK, 1987. May be edited for violence, swearing. Some weeks it is worse.Me neither. And think of the witnessing one sets by being seen going into a movie house where people watch movies portraying sins against the one and only God and enjoying seeing it played out before their very own eyes?How can a child of God enjoy watching sin and call it "Good Entertainment?" And money God has allowed them to have spending it watching sins being played out before their very eyes? Isn't there a better use and more godly use for our money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Invicta Posted July 21, 2011 Members Share Posted July 21, 2011 I forgot to say that that is just the main five channels, does not include sattelite only chanels or fil channels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members farouk Posted July 21, 2011 Members Share Posted July 21, 2011 It's hard to draw the line between soft rock and some contemporary Christian music, and between CCM and some Appallachian old time Gospel favourites. I do have my preferences, but I find it hard to be dogmatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted July 23, 2011 Members Share Posted July 23, 2011 Another thing to consider about movies on TV, and TV shows themselves, is that much more cussing is allowed now and words that were once forbidden are now common. Near nudity and partial nudity is also acceptable on many channels too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members farouk Posted July 23, 2011 Members Share Posted July 23, 2011 In fact, I think television is largely a waste of time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted July 23, 2011 Members Share Posted July 23, 2011 In fact, I think television is largely a waste of time... Which is why we don't watch much of it. Which is also probably why I am so shocked when I see or hear something from a TV when visiting someone. I've often asked, "when did they start showing/saying that on TV?!" Only to be told that's been on TV for several years now. It's a far cry from the days when Matt Dillon didn't even kiss Miss Kitty on the show while today virtual strangers are shown getting physical in scenes that once would have been considered porn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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