The unpardonable sin Mark 3

[Tbinkley]

:th_tiphat:Just for the sake of chat ,I would like to hear some feedback on the topic of what Jesus was refering to of the ``unpardonable sin``. Hopefully there are some great theologians on here that will give me a greater insight into this .
In Christ Jesus ,

[Invicta]

Unbelief

[Covenanter]

Mar 3:28

[Tbinkley]

Mar 3:28

[coc333]

The Bible speaks for itself on what the "unpardonable sin" is. It says that it is blaspheming the Holy Spirit. To understand this, we must read the context. Look at verse 22. They accused Him of casting out devils by the prince of devils. They were blaspheming against the HS.

The HS inspired those who wrote the Word (2 Tim 3:16-17). If they rejected the HS and thus His teachings then what other hope would they have?

[Tbinkley]

The Bible speaks for itself on what the "unpardonable sin" is. It says that it is blaspheming the Holy Spirit. To understand this, we must read the context. Look at verse 22. They accused Him of casting out devils by the prince of devils. They were blaspheming against the HS.

The HS inspired those who wrote the Word (2 Tim 3:16-17). If they rejected the HS and thus His teachings then what other hope would they have?
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Thanks for the input ! This is exactly where I was headed with this . I really appreciate the spiritual input on this ! It really ties those scriptures together doesnt it ?
God Bless

[Covenanter]

Sorry to neglect this thread - somehow I missed the responses.

Unbelief

Can you substantiate that from Scripture, Invicta? Surely we are all unbelievers by nature, & we are commanded to repent & believe...

[Covenanter]

Thanks for the input ! This is exactly where I was headed with this . I really appreciate the spiritual input on this ! It really ties those scriptures together doesnt it ?
God Bless

We have a clear examples in Acts 7.

Stephen stood accused by those who had witnessed the Lord Jesus in his miracles & gracious teaching. They had also heard his warnings. They had heard Peter's assurance of forgiveness at Pentecost, &, after the lame man was healed could not accuse them of anything but speaking in the name of Jesus. Now, in the power of the Holy Spirit, Stephen taught them the lessons that are so clear in Scripture, & denounced them with this word:

Act 7:51

[Covenanter]

A further question is: "Can people today commit the unforgivable sin?"

[Tbinkley]

So covenanter ,Can they ? I beleive that the Word of God is the same ,yesterday ,today and forever . Therefore,Yes ! We are NO differerent than they of yesteryear . If we were ,the Word of God would be of no affect to us !We forget that WE are as much sinners (if not more so) ,than ANY of the OT or NT. Luke 17:26.
Thank You for allowing my candor, God bless

[JerryNumbers]

So covenanter ,Can they ? I beleive that the Word of God is the same ,yesterday ,today and forever . Therefore,Yes ! We are NO differerent than they of yesteryear . If we were ,the Word of God would be of no affect to us !We forget that WE are as much sinners (if not more so) ,than ANY of the OT or NT. Luke 17:26.
Thank You for allowing my candor, God bless

Your right in one way, but be sure to read everything in the Bible in proper context and divide the word of God properly.

We know one thing for sure, the child of God cannot commit the unpardonable sin, for one who has been saved cannot lose their salvation.

[Covenanter]

So covenanter ,Can they ? I beleive that the Word of God is the same ,yesterday ,today and forever . Therefore,Yes ! We are NO differerent than they of yesteryear . If we were ,the Word of God would be of no affect to us !We forget that WE are as much sinners (if not more so) ,than ANY of the OT or NT. Luke 17:26.
Thank You for allowing my candor, God bless

What would constitute such unforgivable behaviour? No-one can be in the same position as the opponents of the Lord, when they resisted & accused him. When they accused the Apostles, they did so because they were refusing to admit they were wrong in rejecting their Messiah.

We need to look for Scripture principles.

Invicta's assertion that unbelief is the unforgivable sin doesn't make sense. The Gospel calls on unbelievers, sinners, to repent.

Do we risk blaspheming against the Holy Spirit when we reject the latest charismatic phenomenon?

Is the Pope unforgivable, when he takes a blasphemous position as head of the church? He has so much Scriptural knowledge, yet is spiritually blind. Is he antichrist, ex officio?

Are our friends & families, & church goers, unforgivable when they continue in unbelief after perhaps years of Gospel preaching?

Who in Scripture was unforgivable?

Cain; Korah & Balaam have a special mention in Jude.
Cain murdered his brother in defiance of God; Korah defied the ordinance of God in defience of Moses & Balaam, hired to curse Israel, after being rebuked & given true prophecy, sought to corrupt Israel by seduction & pagan worship.

Esau despised his birthright & was rejected.

Saul usurped the position as priest.

Belshazzar, profaning the temple vessels.

The Jewish leaders in NT times who knew Christ & rejected him & his Apostles.

Alexander who did much evil to Paul.

Those who deliberately act & teach to damage the faith of others:
2Ti 2:17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; 18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.

See also Rev. 2 & 3.

Broadly speaking, it would seem that to have a clear knowledge & understanding of Gospel truth, & then to act perversely & destructively to harm the cause of Christ is the unforgivable sin.

[Invicta]

Invicta's assertion that unbelief is the unforgivable sin doesn't make sense. The Gospel calls on unbelievers, sinners, to repent.

Covenanter. I am sure you are not saying that one can be pardoned if one continues in unbelief?

The Holy Spirit came to testify to Jesus. If one rejects that testimony and continues in unbelief, can they be pardoned?

[Tbinkley]

Your right in one way, but be sure to read everything in the Bible in proper context and divide the word of God properly.

We know one thing for sure, the child of God cannot commit the unpardonable sin, for one who has been saved cannot lose their salvation.

AMEN BROTHER AND GIVE GOD THE GLORY FOR IT ! My ExPASTOR used to say ,``We`re crooked sticks and ONLY God can draw a straight line with a crooked stick !``

[JerryNumbers]

There is one sin that we do know that the blood of Christ will not cover, unbelief.

But yet the unpardonable sin is not unbelief.

I recall at least 2 things I was told about the unpardonable sin when I was young, that it was unbelief, that it was cussing, yet, at least to me, if you read the verses in context its neither of them.

It amazes me at the number of different things people will claim it to be. One night many years ago I had preached a sermon on the 'sin unto death,' at a church who had asked me to come and bring the morning and evening message. After the evening service a young pastor who was visiting told me that I did not know what I was preaching on, that the 'sin unto death' was the unpardonable sin. And yes, that is the words he used. I just politely told him, "Young man, you need to go home, get your Bible out, pray about this, them study your Bible." That was when he informed me that he was a pastor and knew what he was talking about. I just repeated basically what I had already stated trying to be polite as I could.

The person following him was stunned that he said that to me and apologized for this happening. I said, "That's OK, just as long as I was polite to him." He stated, "You handled it much better than I would have, if he told me point blank that I did not know what I was talking about as he did you, I prOBably would have punched him out." Of course doing such a thing would have made everything much worse.