Jump to content
Online Baptist Community
  • Newest Sermon Entry

    • By 1Timothy115 in Devotionals
         11
      Psalms 119:1-8                                         Sep. 5 - Oct. 2, 2019
      1 ALEPH. Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD.
      2 Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, and that seek him with the whole heart.
      3 They also do no iniquity: they walk in his ways.
      4 Thou hast commanded us to keep thy precepts diligently.
      5 O that my ways were directed to keep thy statutes!
      6 Then shall I not be ashamed, when I have respect unto all thy commandments.
      7 I will praise thee with uprightness of heart, when I shall have learned thy righteous judgments.
      8 I will keep thy statutes: O forsake me not utterly.
      The following verse stood out to me...
      5 O that my ways were directed to keep thy statutes!
      At first glance it seemed to me this person’s soul is poured out with intense desire to have God’s direction in keeping His Word.
      I made a small wood fire in our backyard for my granddaughter, Julia, since she would be staying overnight with us. My wife and Julia stayed outside at the fire for about half an hour. Then, I found myself alone to watch the fire die out on a particularly lovely evening. So I took my verse from above and began to repeat it for memorization. As I repeated the verse, I tried to contemplate the words and apply them to what I was seeing around me. 
      The moon and stars were out now peering through the scattered clouds above.
      [Genesis 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. Genesis 1:17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, Genesis 1:18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.]
      Thought 1         
      The moon has stayed his course since the day God created him, also the stars, obeying the statutes directed by God from the first day they were created. Can you imagine God’s direction to the Moon and stars, “moon you will have a path through the sky above the earth, stars you will occupy the firmament above the moon and be clearly visible in the cloudless night sky.”
      Then, the trees, grass, even the air we breathe obey the statues God gave them from the beginning. None of these creations have souls, none have hearts, none have intelligence, but they all observe God’s statutes, His instructions for their limited time on earth.
      Thought 2
      What if we were like the moon, stars, trees, grass, or the other creations which have no soul? We would be directed to keep God’s statutes without choosing to keep them. This is not the image of God, there would be no dominion over other creatures, or over the earth. We would not be capable of experiencing the joy and peace of learning the love of God
      Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
      Philippians 4:7 And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
      Thought 3 (October 2, 2019)
      Is the psalmist pleading God to force God’s statutes to become the man’s ways? No, he is speaking of his own failure in keeping God’s statutes and his desire to keep them, very much like Paul in Romans 7:14-25.
      God doesn’t work through force to turn men from their ways that they would desire His statutes or desire God Himself. Men must reject (repent) put aside his own ways and voluntarily seek God and His statutes.

Billy Graham's Sad Disobedience to the Word of God

Rate this topic


PastorMatt
 Share

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 65
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

  • Advanced Member



If that is your attitude I will bow out in OBedience to Matthew 7:6


I could easily say the same, but it isn't really applicable. Just another example of your total and fundamental misunderstanding of scripture. It's also an easy, yet false, out for you. It would be much easier for both of us if you would just put your fingers in your ears and shake your head while blabbing some gibberish.

Just find us some facts to back up your assertion. If its true and I am wrong, there will be evidence.
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Independent Fundamental Baptist

One instants of a believers baptism. That is very easy challenge.

Ac 8:36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
Ac 8:37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
Ac 8:38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.

For you see, Peter made sure this man was saved before he consented to baptizing him. The Bible way is always, 1st a person is saved, them and only then are they baptized, so only believers are baptized within the pages of the Bible. Because if a person is not saved they have been baptized in vain.

Of course its just a public profession of that person turning from the world and following Christ, a picture of the death, burial, resurrection of Christ, that is the 1st step of OBedience after a person has been saved. Baptizing has no part in saving a person, there is only one way to be saved.

Eph

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Advanced Member

Wow, PTwild, you are seriously out to lunch here. Origen was a serious heretic and false teacher. He was as lost as lost can be. Infant baptism is not in the Word of God and is from the put of Hell. The Bible does not teach or even imply it. The passage you quoted says we are to be childlike to be saved - not that children need to be baptized. It does not even mention baptism in that passage!

Just because the same passages refer to both baptism and circumcision does not make the two equal in meaning, purpose, or in regards to the recipients of either.


And what do you know about Origen Jerry? What wikipedia says? Or is it one of Jerry8's little websites? And I'll say it again because it OBviously didn't stick: The part I quoted from Origen wasn't to show his support of infant baptism. It in no way even insinuates that we should follow infant baptism because Origen did. It was quoted for its historical value. It is evidence that it was a standard practice of the Church well before the time of Origen.

I also said that I don't agree with all of Origen's beliefs. He was definitely mistaken on some things. I think you are definitely mistaken on a few things as well. However, I don't know Origen personally any more than I know you personally, so I wouldn't dare say he was "lost." I do know that he died for his faith in a resurrected Christ.

And of course I know that the quotations from Luke mean that we are to approach Christ like a child. However, those same verses also evidence Christ's desire that infants share in his blessings the same as adults (that is why the children were being brought to him, to receive his blessing). So too is baptism, it is our initiation in the Christian faith- a blessing. Does it assure us of salvation? No. It is our starting point (just as circumcision was the starting point for the Jew), to be followed by our faith.

When the Bible was written, there were no Christian families. Everyone was a convert to a "new religion." Of course the apostles did not seek out infants to convert - they sought out adults. However,you cannot deny that the Bible mentions, on more than one occasion, that the entire households of new believers were baptized. Further, you have to look at the practices of the early church. All of the churches mentioned in the Bible still practice infant baptism today. Look it up for yourself. The Church in Jerusalem, Corinth, Ephesus . . . all of them. There isn't a shroud of evidence of "believer's baptism" in any of the early Churches.

I'll give you the same opportunity as Revelation: just show us where "believer's baptism" existed before pre-Reformation England. If it is true, there will be evidence of it.
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Advanced Member

One instants of a believers baptism. That is very easy challenge.

Ac 8:36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
Ac 8:37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
Ac 8:38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.

For you see, Peter made sure this man was saved before he consented to baptizing him. The Bible way is always, 1st a person is saved, them and only then are they baptized, so only believers are baptized within the pages of the Bible. Because if a person is not saved they have been baptized in vain.

Of course its just a public profession of that person turning from the world and following Christ, a picture of the death, burial, resurrection of Christ, that is the 1st step of OBedience after a person has been saved. Baptizing has no part in saving a person, there is only one way to be saved.

Eph
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
 Share

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Who's Online   0 Members, 0 Anonymous, 35 Guests (See full list)

    • There are no registered users currently online
×
×
  • Create New...