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    • Thanks for the update LuAnne. I am sure that our Lord can and will work on Randy's condition. I have been prying diligently for his healing and your consolation comfort. I'll also pray about your finances. God will provide, as you know. But sometimes it is hard to just wait on Him, that's why the Christian life is a life of faith.
    • Thank you and nice to meet you Mr. & Mrs. Alan. I definitely enjoy studying!! I was sure by the comments that everyone on here knows what they believe, thus all the questions lol; but I should probably slow down. Thank you again 
    • You are right, Salyan. It makes me laugh now to consider it. Thank you 
    • 1Cor 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.  Since this was written to the church at Corinth I believe that this is saying that baptism baptizes us into the local church. If we are baptized into one body (local church) then that is when we become members of that local church. I find no justification for being baptized into any universal church composed of all believers. This is foreign to both Scripture as well as Baptist doctrine.  Our forefathers, the Ana-Baptists refused to accept what they called alien baptism from churches that were not of like faith and order. This alone tells me that the Scripture refutes any kind of universal church, otherwise there would be no reason to not accept just any church's baptism.
    • As a few of you may know, I am not what you guys call an "independent Baptist" however; I am in my 2nd year of Bible College online that is independent Baptist 100%. I had never heard of this doctrine until I studied Church History. My roots are Missionary Baptists. I have always thought of the church as both local, visible and "universal" but not in a Catholic concept (nor as a Protestant) concept. I just felt that all the truly born again believers were part of Jesus' Church. I was not baptized to become a member of a church, but to show publicly my attachment to Christ and to typify His death, burial and resurrection. I have read more on this topic in the last month that I care to admit. Pros and Cons. Every time I am almost persuaded I will read another scripture that brings me back to the beginning. A sermon I read last night ( don't remember who it was by) says this scripture below is the proof text for the model church start. I would like to go through it and get input to my interpretation. Acts 2:40-47 King James Version (KJV) 40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation. 41 Then they that gladly received his word (they became born again, saved) were baptized (no mention of this being for church membership as we know it today): and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. (called out assembly "church"- this was all the born again, saved at that time) 42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers. 43 And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles. 44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common; 45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.  46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart, 47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added (Jesus does the adding) to the church daily such as should be saved. (No mention of baptism here, baptism is not part of salvation. It is an ordinance given by Christ to show Who you are committed to. I do not find where the Bible says baptism is "for" church membership.)  
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