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A forum to discuss Salvation, Eternal Security and other topics that pertain to Salvation.
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For a while now, I have been attending a Church(IFB), while I am waiting for the Lord to open a door for my next pastorate; And although(for the most part), I very much enjoy the opportunity to be “preached to”, I am not on the “exact same page” as my pastor. This can be somewhat expected, because I have never found “two Baptist” that totally agree 100%. Anyway, recently the LORD reminded me, not to loose sight of “the main thrust of ministry”; This reminder was needed because all I have been hearing, is “soul winning, soul winning, soul winning”. Now, although I do tell people about Jesus and about their need for a Born Again experience and “sometimes” people respond…
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I'm posting part of response from another "Baptist" forum that was left unanswered about 2 Peter 3:9 and the Calvinist mangling of it. Feel free to add to it. Please pardon the Greek, I was dealing with Biblophobes who tried using it against me. Now this verse only says what you say it doesn't say if you read a presuppostional stance into the text. But what does 2 Peter 3:9 actually say? "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." Now does this verse only mean that God is not willing that ONLY THE ELECT should not perish? That…
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Matthew 5 21 Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: 22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. when it says that someone who says "thou fool" shall be in danger of hell fire, does that mean that believers are in danger of going to hell if they talk like that?
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1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. Romans 8:17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. Is it possible for a saved person to be an idolater at the same time? If so, how do we reconcile these two verses? One says the saved are heirs with Christ. The other says idolaters cann…
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I was just having an interesting conversation with a co-worker who was an IFB but was led astray by Calvinism and turned Presbyterian (there were also pot-shots being thrown in by our resident Lutheran...). He asked whether regeneration came before or after salvation. I, of course, said after and explained non-Calvinist salvation to him. Why this caught me off-guard I'm not sure because I know the Reformed position, but he was completely stuck on Ephesians 2:8-9, though not in the way that we understand it. Both of them are convinced that accepting the free gift of salvation is a decision and thus action taken to affect salvation and thus a work that can be boasted. …
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I would like to start a new thread based on this article. The original can be found at: http://biblehelp.org/prayperson.htm (Use by permission of author) Is it even Biblical to Pray for a Person’s Salvation? It is not uncommon for a Christian to ask other Christians to pray for the salvation of someone they are concerned about. Although this concern for the person’s eternal destiny is commendable, is it Biblical; will God answer these prayers? If you were to survey Christians with this question, you would get a large variety of answers ranging from “Yes, of course. God desires that we intervene on the behalf of others,” all the way to, “Definitely no; …
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People are being taught the gate to heaven is wide and they are excepting it! The blind are leading the blind to the slaughter in uncountable numbers! (Massive destruction).
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2001 Translation, has removed; soul, grace, gospel, hell, Christ, Cross, Spirit, everlasting life, and who knows what else... The translators of this version are not wanting to adhere to any doctrine; but without doctrine what is the bible worth-nothing... It seems that ever-so-often someone comes out of some seminary somewhere, and thinks that they can reconfigurate, reorganize, redistibute the word of God... I call them all "just another version"... the K.J.V. is in my opinion still the best soulwinning tool that the soulwinner has, because... ...it has soul, grace, gospel, hell, Christ, cross, Spirit, everlasting life and all of there doctrines in-tact and ready t…
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I give a co-worker a ride to work twice a week; and was wanting to witness to him. I asked the Lord to give me wisdom on how to present the gospel to him. In my tract pile I had one in titled "Wisdom from the Catholic Bible" and the thought came to me after much prayer, give this tract to billy, him being a Catholic, and ask him to read it for me over the weekend. I have a brother-in-law, who is also a Catholic. I told billy about his often bouts with depression, and loss of his Catholic faith, and that if he would read it for me, and see from his Catholic perspective if the tract would be appropriate or suitable for my brother-in-law. He was happy to do so, and glad to …
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I have seen on a number of threads here this "repentance unto salvation" terminolgy used. I am curious as to the doctrine behind this and how many people in the IB churches ascribe to this doctrine?
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I've listened to a radio preacher in my area a few times to make sure that I heard his "salvation plan" correctly... After his recorded sermon ends, another recording comes on that invites people to their church etc...and part of the final recording is an invitation to be saved...this is how it's presented... If you want to be saved, it's as easy as A-B-C. A - Admit that you're a sinner. B - Believe that Jesus is the Son of God. C - Confess your sins to him. That's it...and that's all that is said. I know what I think, but what do others think of this?
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Recently heard a preacher say that if someone doesn't believe in the diety of Christ, or does not believe Christ is God, that person can't be saved. Does anyone know where this doctrine came from in the Bible and/or what verse(s) substantiate this statement? This is not a discussion of the trinity, or church history, or creeds. I would like to keep this focused on the question. Thanks.
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At one point in my life here on earth I was addicted to sin and evil. So much to the point that I even stopped lying to myself and God about it. I told God that not only was I addicted to sin and evil but I loved it. I told God the truth. That I loved sin and evil more than I loved him. In fact at that point in time the truth was that I did not love God at all. I used God. I took God for granted. All I wanted was what I wanted. I could have cared less about how God felt or what he wanted. At that time I wasn't even aware that God had feelings just like I did. All God was to me was a meal ticket. A free ride to where ever I dreamed I could go. He was my escape goat. I wa…
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BJ was introduced to our fellowship group a few weeks ago as a new convert. He had been seeking peace in his religion for some time, but met a Nigerian who told him, "Not religion, but faith in Jesus" & prayed with & for him. Within 3 days he knew the peace only to be found in Jesus. I've rarely met one so eager for fellowship & so enthusiastic about Bible teaching. He will return to the Punjab on Feb. 28th. His uncle is a Christian & he has links to Christians we know in India but his family have told him they don't want him now he is a Christian. Our study last Friday was on baptism (by John & of Jesus) & its implications as seen in Romans …
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The Five Phases of the First Resurrection (1) Jesus took the Old Testament saints to Heaven at His ascension. Psalms 68:18 KJV, Ephesians 4:8 KJV (2) The Holy Spirit and the church age saints are caught up to heaven before the antichrist Is given power in the Christian nations. 2Thessalonians 2:3-12, and 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 also see John16:7-8 KJV (3)The mid tribulation catching up will include the two witnesses Revelation11:3,7-14 KJV, the 144,000 sealed Jews from Revelation chapter 7 who where redeemed from the earth. See Revelation 14:1-4, and the redeemed dead saints from the first half of the Tribulation. See Revelation 15:1-4KJV (4) The dead saints from the …
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Eternal Rewards Daniel 12:1–3 KJV 1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. 2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. 3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever. Notice verse 3! I believe our brightness wil…
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Lost souls lingering here at OB
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I have no idea how many of you are visiting here looking for truth about God. Some may have other motives but, I’m not speaking to them today. I’m speaking about Jesus Christ and your questions about Him and your own eternal soul. You see many topics here and the resulting discussions may confuse you. You probably wonder how so many of us can trust in what we cannot see and can believe the Bible holds the truth. There is so much you want to know and so much you want to ask. Ask those questions and allow those here to show you the alternative to your doubt or skepticism. You can find the truth so many of us have found within the Bible. John 20:31 But these are written…
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Mat 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and [with] fire: 12 Whose fan [is] in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire. 13 ¶ Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him. 14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? 15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer [it to be so] now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he …
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Pre- Christ justification?
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Here's a starting point... Psalms 143:2 And enter not into judgment with thy servant: for in thy sight shall no man living be justified. I read the scripture above during today's devotions and wondered what others may have settled on. I took the framework for this from Evans... William Evans ...so what was the the source of justification before Christ's birth, death, ressurection? Ed. for clarification.
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I do not believe a person can "fall from grace" and lose salvation. However, can a person renounce the decision to follow Christ? I have known a few people who have done so. One experienced salvation, and lived like it for awhile. However, after a number of terrible events in his life, he walked away and renounced his belief in Christ, and now lives as an athiest. Again, I am not talking about losing salvation due to a mere drifting away from faith or falling into sin. I am talking about a conscious decision to renounce Christ and their faith in him. What happens when people do this? Do they lose the salvation that they at one point in their lives accepted? If …
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I was baptised into the Church of Christ when I was about (guessing) 7 or 8 years old. Later in life after attending many different churches, I was saved under the ministry of an IFB and followed the Lord with believer's baptism. Some years ago I had a relative and member of the Church of Christ pass away. After the services there was a meal at the church. During discussion among family and old friends, membership at this church was discussed. A deacon of the church mentioned that I was still carried on the membership roll. I said I had since been saved and become a Baptist. Another person said, "But you were baptized here!" No discussion of salvation or receiving Chris…
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I have read many posts over the internet concerning infants and death. People wonder where an infant goes when it dies. I do not believe all babies that die in infancy go to heaven, nor do I believe they all go to hell. I do believe I have Scriptural support for my conclusions. I will deal first with the reality of some being born wicked. In Psalm 58:3, we read that "The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies." In interesting verse to say the least. It shows that there are wicked born in this world. Now, let's jump to Hosea 13:16, where we read the LORD God ordering that infants be dashed to pieces. Wow. Su…
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Faith: What is it? 1 2 3
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What is Faith? Is it a "blind leap in the dark?" Is it believing in something that we can not know? Further, is faith an action or is it a thought?
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I'm just going to keep my question simple and see what you all have to say.. Did you stay down on your knees and emotionally cry out to the Lord to save you? Or.. Did someone show you, one-on-one, from the Bible the plan of Salvation and pray with you as you asked the Lord a simple (yet powerful and meaningful) prayer to save you? I will not sit here and say that one is better or worse than the other because as far as I'm concerned if you ask the Lord to save you and you mean it in your heart he will do it! The only reason I ask is because I have seen it both ways. I have seen it short and sweet, and I have seen it emotional, deep and lasted a while. If someone f…
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We recently had some church events come up that have me wondering something. If a person has said they are saved and then it turns out they were not, what would that mean of any that have been led by them? I know that the Holy Ghost is the one convicting and that the soulwinner is a tool, but I have just never thought about that before?
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Dinosaurs on the ark never made sense to me. Why save the dinosaurs if they were just gonna die right away due to climate change. Either they were an abomination created in Genesis 6 or perhaps prior between Genesis 1:1-2 and were wiped out during Lucifer's rebellion. Incidentally, Satan is compared to a dragon aka dinosaur.
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The Bible teaches by man came death. At the end of creation week, there was no evil in the universe. God declared all He had made very good. All the angels rejoiced on day three - when the foundations of the earth were laid - Job 38:7 - which meant none had fallen yet. You can also see the same order of events of creation week (as shown in Job 38) presented the same way in Psalm 104. Satan walked in Eden before he fell - Ezekiel 28:13 - and Eden was not created until day 6. Nowhere does the Bible state Adam and Eve fully understood how death would affect things, only that it was promised as a judgement if they sinned. Satan fell sometime after creation week, then he later tempted Eve and Adam; and their sin resulted in death, the curse, etc. being brought on creation, including all biological life. Romans 5 is very clear on that. -
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replenish (v.) mid-14c., replenishen, "provide" with food or drink, also riches, beauty, etc., from Old French repleniss-, extended present-participle stem of replenir "to fill up," from re-, here perhaps an intensive prefix based on the notion of "fill repeatedly," thus "fill completely" (see re-), + -plenir, from Latin plenus "full" (from PIE root *pele- (1) "to fill"). Specifically as "to fill up again, restore to a former amount or condition" by 1610s. Related: Replenished; replenishing; replenishment. And here's the link to the prefix "re" https://www.etymonline.com/word/re- I'm not convinced either way. Evil did exist before man sinned, otherwise God would not have "known good and evil" and the serpent would not have been an evil entity to have tempted Eve. And "death" was a known concept, otherwise the serpent and Eve would not have discussed it. The Bible says that death passed upon Adam and Eve.. I don't recall reading where it says that animals had not yet died. I'm just curious as to what happened to all them "dinosaurs". Except for crocodilians, they were completely annihilated long ago and I don't believe any of them were on the ark. -
This man started his own cult. Unless you love being deceived, I recommend staying a million miles away from this dangerous heretic.
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