Bible - KJV or Modern Version Discussion

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   "in the presence"

   January 13, 2012 by 1Timothy115

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   There are ten verses in Luke 15 which precede Jesus telling of the prodigal. In verse 10 Jesus reveals something about heaven and more. "Likewise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth."

   

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   "tasso"

   April 29, 2013 by heartstrings

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   Acts 13:48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48 Perverted (NKJV) 48 Now when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and glorified the word of the Lord. And as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed. This use of the word "ordained", here in the New King James, is just one example of how a degraded definition of a word can add to to or take away from the Word of God. The word "ordained", in it's most familar use today, does mean appointed. but I believe the root meaning has been lost or obscured. Here is an example of it's use near the en…

   

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   1 Cor. 13:10

   January 18, 2009 by Truthseeking

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   This reads in full context ..... 1 Corinthians Chapter 13 1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. 2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. 3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing. 4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, 5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh …

   

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   1 Corinthians 4:4 "For I know nothing BY myself"

   January 14, 2004 by brandplucked

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   1 Corinthians 4:4 "For I know nothing BY myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord." This verse is fiercely attacked by many "noted scholars" as being a blunder and a defect in our beloved King James Bible. Most modern versions, like the NKJV, NASB, NIV, RSV, ESV, have altered the translation to mean something else. Here is a site that lists several "defects" in the King James Bible. http://www.bible-researcher.com/kjvdefects.html Notice how these learned men exalt themselves and heap praise on one another, all the while "correcting" the Book of books with degrading insults. They suggest that "volumes, instead of a few pages, may …

   

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   1 Corinthians 7 Paul's Authority

   April 21, 2015 by 1Timothy115

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   Paul is writing in reply to a question from the Corinthian Church (verse 1); obviously a question about the married state between a man and a woman. He speaks part of this chapter without citing a direct commandment of the Lord. Paul defers to the Lord's commandment in verses 10-11. However, Paul writes, in "But I speak this by permission and not of commandment." But the 'this' in verse 6 is difficult for me to "rightly divide." Paul continues after verses 10-11 with further discourse in verses 12-40. But it appears in verse 40b he cites authority of the Holy Spirit, "and I think also that I have the Spirit of God." Also, I would like to confirm Paul's authority is the …

   

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   1 John 5:12

   December 10, 2004 by HomeBound

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   Hey all, I saw this on another board. They asked what about 1 John 5:12. Today's KJB has Son of God while the AV has just Son. Any of you scholars know why they says different? God bless, HB

   

   Last reply by Samer, December 11, 2004
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   1 John 5:7 1 2

   September 28, 2006 by Mercy

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   Is this verse in the original manuscripts? 1 John 5:7 - For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. Love, Madeline

   

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   1 John 5/proverbs 28

   February 28, 2013 by Guest

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   My devotions were in 1 John 5 and Proverbs 28 today. During prayer, a song came to mind so I sang it to the Lord. "I am thine, O Lord." 1 John 5:13 "These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God." Why wasn't the song that came to mind "Blessed Assurance?" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The thought that came to mind while reading in Proverbs 28 was our nation, our land, and it's current distress. 2 For the transgressi…

   

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    1 Kings 19:10&14; context vss. 1-18

    June 19, 2011 by Guest

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    Being "jealous for the LORD" was it a good thing or a bad thing? 1 Kings 19:10 And he said, I have been very jealous for the LORD God of hosts: for the children of Israel have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thine altars, and slain thy prophets with the sword; and I, even I only, am left; and they seek my life, to take it away. 1 Kings 19:14 And he said, I have been very jealous for the LORD God of hosts: because the children of Israel have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thine altars, and slain thy prophets with the sword; and I, even I only, am left; and they seek my life, to take it away.

    

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    1 man + 10 women = Marriage?

    August 13, 2015 by MountainChristian

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    Matthew 25 1Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom. 2And five of them were wise, and five were foolish. 3They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them: 4But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. 5While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept. 6And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him. 7Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps. 8And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out. 9But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for…

    

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    1 Peter - Shifting Sands of Scholarship in Action

    November 22, 2005 by brandplucked

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    The Shifting Sands of "Scientific" Scholarship in 1 Peter The purpose of this comparative study is to show the fickle and ever-changing nature of the so called "science of textual criticism". One can easily show the same things occurring in any book of the New Testament. There are many more examples than those listed in this study. I have shortened a previous longer study I did, and retained these examples to clearly demonstrate that the modern versions are a mass of confusion, and they have no sure words of God. Peculiarities of Vaticanus in First Peter. Codex Vaticanus is highly exalted among modern scholars as being the best Greek manuscript, and its readin…

    

    Last reply by brandplucked, December 20, 2005
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    1 Peter 3:10

    December 28, 2007 by Guest Guest

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    For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile.

    

    Last reply by 5dumplings@home, December 31, 2007
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    1 Peter 3:18-20 1 2 3

    July 24, 2011 by Greyson01

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    Did Jesus go to hell? What or who are the "spirits" mentioned in 1 Peter 3: 18-20? Are they fallen angels or the spirits of those of Noah's day? What exactly did Christ preach to them and for what purpose?

    

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    1 Peter 5:1-5

    February 14, 2005 by Pastorj

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    1 Peter 5:1-5 1 The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed: 2 Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind; 3 Neither as being lords over God's heritage, but being ensamples to the flock. 4 And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away. 5 Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giv…

    

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    1 Samuel 6:19 - 50,070 slain or only 70?

    August 10, 2004 by brandplucked

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    50,070 men slain or only 70? 1 Samuel 6:19 presents us with a prime example of how the modern scholars presume to alter the text of the King James Bible. These

    

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    1 Timothy 3:16 Examined

    April 9, 2004 by PreachIt

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    (Greek letters do not appear correctly in this forum, see link) :D False Citations in NA/UBS 1 Timothy 3:16 Examined by Scott Jones The critical apparatuses of NA/UBS are SATURATED with false citations. For example, there are no less than SIX FALSE CITATIONS by NA/UBS in 1 Timothy 3:16 alone. Five uncials are falsely cited in support of OS instead of THEOS in 1 Timothy 3:16. These uncials are Aleph A C F G. Four of these uncials read THEOS in the original hand, whereas ultraviolet technology demonstrated that most of the corrections of Aleph, ESPECIALLY those with doctrinal significance, were made before Aleph ever left the scriptorium. Tischendorf stated …

    

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    1 Timothy 5:4 - nephews

    November 28, 2004 by brandplucked

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    NEPHEWS 1 Timothy 5:4. The KJV

    

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    1,611 reasons why we love the KJV 1611 1 2 3 4 19

    December 2, 2010 by Pastor Matt

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    We all are well aware that on May 5th 2011 the KJV1611 turns 400 years old. The purpose of this thread is to see if we can come up with 1611 reasons why we love the KJV. Rules are: 1) Members can post as many times as they like, but only one "reason" per post. 2) No other posts in this thread but reasons why you love the KJV. Start a new topic for discussions. 3) We need to come up with 1,611 reasons before May 5th 2011.

    

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    10 Most Glaring Problems 1 2 3 4 5

    December 26, 2006 by Hanna

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    Could you tell me what might be the 10 most glaring scripture problems with the NIV? Also, why doesn't someone publish a modern translation from the TR, if that would eliminate the simplicity issue? I use KJV, I love it. I love the poetic nature of it...it is like music and makes it easier to remember. It is also beautiful, which translated into our English it would lose those qualities. Hey why doesn't someone translate Shakesphere into modern day English? Now THAT would have helped me a lot in school:)) Oh well, part of the torture we must all endure I guess;/

    

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    10 Proofs that the Bible is God's word.

    May 21, 2017 by Bob from England

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    This excellent sermon really boosts our confidence in the Bible:

    

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    10 Scholars = 12 Opinions

    December 3, 2003 by PreachIt

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    Is King James onlyism Scriptural? We who believe God has preserved His inspired words only in the KJB are accused of being unscriptural. Isaiah 59:21 "This is my covenant with them; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever." Jesus said in Matthew 24:35: "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away." God has promised to preserve His words, here on earth, in a form that will be known and spoken among His seed, till the end of this world. How has He done t…

    

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    1611 Commemorative Edition

    January 13, 2011 by chev1958

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    Has anyone purchased or know where to get a commemorative edition of the 1611 KJV? I've seen one on Christian Book Distributors, but I was hoping to find something a little more special.

    

    Last reply by HappyChristian, January 13, 2011
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    1611 King James Bible

    July 14, 2007 by Guest Guest

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    I have heard that the original 1611 King James Bible had the 7 Old Testament books that Catholics have in their Bible. Has anyone else heard anything about this?

    

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    1611 or 1769

    January 1, 1970 by Guest

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    1611 version 1 2

    January 22, 2006 by Guest Guest

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    Excuse my ignorance but with all the talk about the 1611 version I'm wondering if my John R. Rice reference KJ Bible is acceptable by KJVo standards? Thanks

    

    Last reply by AVDeaf, February 1, 2006