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The 1% Manuscripts: Aleph & B http://www.ekkcom.com/one-prct.htm Is there anything wherefore it may be said, 'See, this is new? It hath been already of old time which was before us. Ecclesiastes 1:10 The New International Version, New American Bible, New American Standard, New Jerusalem, New English Bible, and New Revised Standard are not so 'New' as we have seen, but are but merely an encore of the 'New' Age esotericism of Plato, Saccus, Clement and Origen, set on the stage of the Egyptian papyri and Eusebius' Aleph and B manuscripts. Then the chief captain came near and took him, and commanded him to be bound with two chains...And as Paul was to be l…
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DOES THE NIV SUPPORT UNBIBLICAL CATHOLIC DOCTRINE? http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plai ... vmay97.htm I often correspond with Catholics on the net and find myself telling them over and over again that they are reading from a corrupt version and therefore are being deceived about what the pure word of God really says. They cannot understand my love of the King James Bible as the true word of God. But it becomes clear to anyone who is earnestly contending for the faith that something is wrong. When reading the KJB, each scripture can be backed up by several others. This is not the case with other versions, one of which is the NIV. Sometimes a single verse is used …
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Hello, First off please be patience with me. I am looking for answers to many questions. Some of them may upset you and for this I apologize, but that is how one gets answers by asking questions. I have seen and done things that most can only dream of, but at the same time I have seen and done things that most would consider a nightmare. I believe in God, but I question Christ. The bible was written by mear mortals, but the first text was handed down by God. The question I am asking this time is that over the passage of time, could not man have mistranslated the originial tex and put his words and or feelings and beliefs into something that meets his or her needs. My…
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Wanna feel sick? Read this news article regarding this new teen girl magazine: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,97638,00.html
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[img]http://home.earthlink.net/~bcs100/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/craft1d.jpg[/img] [img]http://home.earthlink.net/~bcs100/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/nkjv2a.jpg[/img] I don't believe in 'luck', and there are NO accidents amongst God's people! That these two books have this 'design' is NO coincidence It ain't just a cute design! coun ter feit \'kaunt-er-fit\: to imitate or copy closely especially with intent to deceive. The greatest method of deception is to counterfeit. And the master of counterfeit and deception is Satan. The Bible in 2 Corinthians 11:14-15 warns of Satan's counterfeit: "And no marvel; for Satan himself i…
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http://pub76.ezboard.com/fav1611godswor ... =995.topic Acts 10:11 James White - Bible scholar gone loopy Normally I would not even address the minor textual issue brought up by examining Acts 10:11, but since Mr. James White makes such a big deal of it in his book The King James Only Controversy, I am compelled to address the issue. In chapter nine of his book, which is titled "Problems in the KJV" James lists several silly objections to the language and text of the King James Bible, all of which can easily be refuted. Of course he is not "attacking" the KJB, you understand, but is merely demonstrating areas where it contains errors or is based on what he ca…
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Oh silly person, consider this... Do you believe Moses' account of God's dealing with Pharoah? Didn't Moses have to translate his conversations with Pharoah from Egyptian into his own language? It took place in Egypt, surely Pharoah wouldn't have spoken in Moses' own language. Si? You WILL say, though, that Exodus is INSPIRED scripture won't you? Therfore...etc, etc... :mrgreen: In His service, Craig p.s. DON'T even go there, NO the KJV translation isn't inspired, the WORDS are. You figure that one out. I'm saying God can create, and hold the universe together by His Word. He is CERTAINLY capable of preserving His Words as He see's fit! A…
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Well lots of things BUt I will just pick on one subject this [img]http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:9ty5hi9i96wC:www.av1611.org/images/nkjv2a.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.av1611.org/images/nkjv2.gif[/img] Thomas Nelson Publishers (publishers of the NKJV) claim, on the inside-cover, the symbol, ". . .is an ancient symbol for the Trinity." But Acts 17:29, clearly FORBIDS such symbology: ". . . we ought NOT to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, GRAVEN BY ART and man's device." What wrong with that you say well everything. I think that we could all agreee that God is holy and seperate from every cult and false religion then why would "…
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A refined KJV, a very good companion volume to the KJV. Not A Replacement INTRODUCTION. The principal alterations in the language of the common version of the Scriptures, made in this edition, stated and explained. 'Who' is substituted for 'which', when it refers to persons. 'Its' is substituted for 'his', when it refers to plants and things without life. 'To' is used for 'unto'. This latter word is not found in the Saxon books, and as it is never used in our present popular language, it is evidently a modern compound. The first syllable 'un' adds nothing to the signification or force of 'to'; but by increasing the number of unimportant syllables, rather i…
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1Jo 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. ...doesn't belong in our Bibles. The 1901 ASV renders that verse thusly, 1Jo 5:7 And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is the truth. Bible commentator Matthew Henry would like to have a word... or two... 1. We are stopped in our course by the contest there is about the genuineness of 1Jo_5:7. It is alleged that many old Greek manuscripts have it not. We shall not here enter into the controversy. It should seem that the critics are not agreed what manuscripts have it and what not; nor do they sufficiently i…
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[size=18]How Much Value Does God Put On The Original Autographs?[/size] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [b]1. The Original Autographs[/b] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Conservatives say the Bible used to be inspired and inerrant. Liberals say it never was inspired or inerrant. Both agree that the Bible is [b]not [/b]now inspired or inerrant. Modern Bible scholars will often talk and write about the "inspired originals", since the "originals" no longer exist, the scholars and their conjectures replace the Bible as the "the final authority", they replace God'…
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[size=18]THE PROBLEM WITH NEW AGE BIBLE VERSIONS[/size] By David W. Cloud Way of Life Literature, Bible Baptist Church, P.O. Box 610368, Port Huron, MI 48061-0368, fbns@wayoflife.org Copyright 1994,1998. This material cannot be stored on BBS or Internet sites without permission from the author. Any articles which are redistributed by e-mail or print must be left intact and nothing must be removed or changed, including these informational headers. This material is available as a booklet from Way of Life Literature. See the online catalog at our web site. http://wayoflife.org/~dcloud/. CONTENTS Introduction Problems with New Age Bible Versions Response to the New…
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When we say we believe the King James Bible (AV 1611) is God's perfect word, why do others say that we are not using the AV1611. They say the AV1611 had the Apocgrapha and old English spelling. Any ideas?
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We english speaking folk have a word 'preserve' In Hebrew though, here are two that mean preserve, or preservation, but with so much detail and varying descriptions. Psa 145:20 The LORD preserveth all them that love him: but all the wicked will he destroy. KJV Psa 145:20 The LORD3068 preserveth8104 (853) all3605 them that love157 him: but all3605 the wicked7563 will he destroy.8045 KJV + Strong's numbers H8104 ùׁîø sha
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Why Not? Exo 20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain. Si? Are you FLIPPANT with what God holds ABOVE HIS NAME?
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Luk 19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay [them] before me. John Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible, Luk 19:27 - But those mine enemies,.... Meaning particularly the Jews, who were enemies to the person of Christ, and hated and rejected him, as the King Messiah; and rebelled against him, and would not submit to his government; and were enemies to his people, and were exceeding mad against them, and persecuted them; and to his Gospel, and the distinguishing truths of it, and to his ordinances, which they rejected against themselves: which would not that I should reign over them; see Luk_19:14 br…
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[img]http://home.earthlink.net/~bcs100/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/esword.jpg[/img] Doesn't the 'EMTV' version remind you of a school kid trying to change the words so he isn't caught copying from an encyclopedia or some such source? :lol: In His service, Craig [img]http://www.e-sword.net/images/banner.gif[/img] http://www.e-sword.net/
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Hello Everybody, Im starting this thread because Ive met a nice fellow who sincerly believes that Acts 2:38 is the key to interpreting the New Testament. If he finds something that teaches another way to be saved (Romans 10 for example)...... Acts 2:38 overides it! Ive invited him to state his case here....
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Hello Everybody, I thought Id start this thread because alot of Baptists have different opinions concerning this form of Soul Winning. I personally get on a street corner, honk my pipes and tell them all "Ye must be born again" So what do you all think?
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My wife has a co-worker at her office that has posed a question to her that she can not answer. His question is this: Why is it that only the gospel of Matthew has Jesus requesting two animals for his triumphul entry into Jerusalem and the Mark, Luke, and John only say one animal? The verses are these: Matthew 21:2 Mark 11:2 Luke 19:30 John 12:14-15 All of these point to fulfillment of prophecy as written in Zechariah 9:9. I have read the verses and never saw anything that troubled me before. But he has read them and wants to know why Matthew is different form the other three. Any thoughts or suggestions? Thank you.
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Have you all heard of the revolved Bib...book? It is supposed to attract the teen population. Take a look. http://www.covenantbookstore.com/reconewte.html Extreme for Jesus has found that the number one reason teens don't read the Bible is that it is "too big and freaky looking." Brings to my mind one verse, [b]Mark 8:38 Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.[/b] BTW, I believe this is a Thomas Nelson publication. Also, if you look real hard on the cover page you will see symbols, looks to …
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Tyndale, Great, Cranmer, Geneva, Bishop's, Darby, Webster's, Young's, NKJV, Green's Literal, KJVII, KJV21, Bible For The Third Millenium I heard those versions are based solely on TR. If yes do you view them as better translation then NIV NASB RSV etc? What makes them not the true word of God or inferor to KJV since they also used TR as the originals. I thought that none Bible versions are based solely on the TR besides KJV. I am getting confused about this issue
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Would you agree with Dr. Bob Gray here? This is a short clip. http://www.baptistfire.com/ra/kjvgray.ram
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As I've been mulling things about, I decided to take a different approach to my consideration of the KJV. Rather than compare it to a modern version, I decided to compare it to an even OLDER version! I downloaded the Geneva Bible and have been reading it alongside the KJV. Actually, it's a pretty enjoyable version to read. Then again, I'm easily intrigued by nostalgia...I have a 32 year old car, I use a wind-up pocket watch, and I write with a fountain pen! From what I've been able to discover so far, the Geneva Bible was the Bible of the Reformation and the Puritans. In fact, conservative Christians (i.e., Puritans) rejected the KJV, or were, at least, very suspic…
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Does anyone know anything about the KJVER aka The Sword Bible.? It was listed in a book I am reading on the differences in Bible Versions. The author says it is a very accurate modern english update to the KJV. [url]http://www.swordbible.org/home.php[/url] What are there any major or minor textual changes? Are there any doctrinal changes that you know of? The web site claims it is based on the TR and "The Easy Reading follows the King James text almost word for word merely updating language. " They also have listed on their web site the same objections to other modern versions that other KJV onlyist have. I sent an email to ask what "almost word for wor…
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