Bible - KJV or Modern Version Discussion

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   do different words say the same thing?

   December 16, 2003 by PreachIt

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   http://www.chick.com/ask/articles/differentwords.asp Don't Bibles with different words still say the same thing? © 2002 by David W. Daniels Question: My Bible has different words from the King James, but don

   

   Last reply by PreachIt, December 16, 2003
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   Well there it is, brothers and sisters in Christ...!!

   December 15, 2003 by PreachIt

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   My first journey through His Word, cover to cover :D What's next?? Another one, of course :lol: They say the average reader can read the Bible in 60 hours,so @ 1hr/day that's 6 times through per year... hey maybe I'll stop being a 'concordance cripple'! :lol: I'll actually remember where stuff is!!!WOW!!!

   

   Last reply by PreachIt, December 15, 2003
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   Psalms - Oh how different the versions! 1 2

   December 1, 2003 by brandplucked

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   In this comparative study of the Book of Psalms we will be showing the totally different meanings found in the multitude of conflicting bible versions. Many people assume all versions say the same things but with slightly different words. This is not true at all. Some of these changes, both textually and in the meaning, will surprise you. Psalm 2:7 "I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; THIS DAY HAVE I BEGOTTEN THEE." This verse is prophetic of the fulfillment found in the book of Acts 13:33 where we read:

   

   Last reply by brandplucked, December 13, 2003
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   Modern Versions and Gnostic Heresies

   December 6, 2003 by doulon

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   There is a lot of talk these days about finding the "oldest" reading. While this is an admirable task one may not always rely on such evidence. As soon as the Holy Ghost finished inspiring the NT writers the Sacred Deposit fell among hostile hands. As heretics abound in our day so they abounded, perhaps even more so, in the days of the NT writers. It is a known fact that the most severe corruptions to the Biblical text were carried out within the first 100 years of its completion. There were countless sects of heretics with many well known leaders who prided themselves on opposing the orthodox as well as mutilating the Holy Scriptures. Of particular interest to these grou…

   

   Last reply by steaver, December 7, 2003
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   Dynamic Equivalency: Its Influence And Error

   December 3, 2003 by Jerry

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   David Cloud just put together this series of articles on Dynamic Equivalency translations and the problems with them. What I have read so far is very good. He put all the articles on one page. http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/dyn-equiv ... error.html Any portions you want to comment on or share? [quote] Dynamic equivalency confuses the job of the translator with that of a teacher. The translator

   

   Last reply by Jerry, December 7, 2003
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   THUS SAITH THE LORD!!!

   December 6, 2003 by PreachIt

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   I had not searched, "Thus Saith Jehovah", The answer below is absolutely correct, and I have edited this post thusly, there is still this NOT insignificant matter... KJV Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book. (43 words) asv Rev 22:19 and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the *TREE*(?) of life, and out of the holy city, which are written in this book. (39 words) Emphasis, and (?), mine :D And now BECAUSE th…

   

   Last reply by Jerry, December 6, 2003
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   the KJV, a Miracle of God?? 1 2 3 4 14

   November 8, 2003 by PreachIt

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   Last reply by Pastor Matt, December 6, 2003
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   Does Ps 12:6-7 Refer to God's Words? 1 2

   December 3, 2003 by Jerry

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   Does Ps 12:6-7 Refer to God's Words? There are those who do not believe Ps 12:6-7 is speaking of the Word of God. These contend that this key passage refers rather to God's preservation of the men spoken of in Ps 12:1-5. An article by Doug Kutilek published in The Biblical Evangelist in 1983, proposed this view. Kutilek claimed that it is not possible that v. 7 could be referring to the words of v. 6 because the "them" in v. 7 is masculine, while the "words" of v. 6 is feminine. In early 1984 I wrote to Bruce Lackey about this. Dr. Lackey, who died December 1, 1988, taught at Tennessee Temple in Chattanooga, Tennessee, for nineteen years and was the dean of the Bible scho…

   

   Last reply by Anon, December 5, 2003
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    post, hi-jacked

    December 4, 2003 by PreachIt

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    if interested in discussing this topic, go here, http://pub151.ezboard.com/bfoundationof ... tythebible

    

    Last reply by BrianT, December 5, 2003
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    Why Don't they Know,

    December 5, 2003 by PreachIt

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    the bible revisers, why don't they know that though they make it simple enough for a 2nd grade reading level, they then hand that simplified version to the BLIND! And those Blind ones won't understand it no matter how simple it is. Spiritually DEAD, unregenerate, unredeemed folks can't understand God's word, period! The ONLY unsaved who may understand are those prepared by God to respond to the Gospel of Jesus Christ, that upon hearing they may receive saving faith. So aren't the revisers, who want to simplify God's Word for the masses, thinking thousands more may be saved by a simpler version, proving that they are among the BLIND, the unregenerated, the un…

    

    Last reply by lettheredeemedsayso, December 5, 2003
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    IN ENGLISH

    December 4, 2003 by PreachIt

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    A word about the WORD in ENGLISH! To the multi-versionist 1st. Know who and what you are dealing with! Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2nd. Know who and what you are dealing with! Psa 138:2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name. 3rd. Know who and what you are dealing with! Exo 20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain. 4th. Know who and what you are dealing with! Rev 22:18 For I test…

    

    Last reply by Pastor Matt, December 4, 2003
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    Evil begets evil, (long, for a good reason)

    November 30, 2003 by PreachIt

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    From Their Own Mouths - The Bible Modifiers The Modifiers of the Bible http://www.revelationwebsite.co.uk/inde ... mouth3.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There is a lot of secrecy surrounding the translators of modern Bibles, and with good reason. The Lockman Foundation has elected to remain anonymous, and the translating committee of the New International Version is also nameless. We are assured of their "scholarship" without being given any proof of it. Just what is they are hiding? Earlier we studied the beliefs of Dr's Westcott and Hort. We will now look at some of the other members of the English Revisio…

    

    Last reply by PreachIt, December 4, 2003
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    Taking some time 1 2 3

    November 30, 2003 by BrianT

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    I'm going to withdraw a bit form the forums for a while. Thanks for the discussions thus far, it's been interesting. Maybe I'll poke my head in later now and then just to annoy PreachIt a little. :wink: God bless you all, Brian

    

    Last reply by pneu-engine, December 4, 2003
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    Can A Translation Be Called the Inspired Word of God?

    December 4, 2003 by Jerry

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    [b]The Practicality of Preservation: Can A Translation Be Called the Inspired Word of God?[/b] Very few people read the Bible languages (Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek) fluently. We have seen that Paul's doctrine of inspiration in 2 Timothy chapter three allows for copies and translations to be viewed as the inspired Word of God. Why not? If a translation is an accurate representation of the original Text of Scripture, what is wrong with saying that translation is the inspired Word of God? Many mock such an idea, though. Recently I received a paper written by a Bible college professor in Canada which maligned me for teaching that the King James Version is the inspired Word…

    

    Last reply by Anon, December 4, 2003
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    "The" Kings Speech 1 2

    December 3, 2003 by doulon

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    I wanted to start a new thread dealing with Brian

    

    Last reply by BrianT, December 4, 2003
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    Bible Preservation

    December 3, 2003 by Jerry

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    PRESERVATION - BIBLE The doctrine that God has preserved His Word pure through the ages. The same God that perfectly inspired the Scriptures has promised to perfectly preserve the Scriptures-not merely its teachings, but its very words. If inspiration was perfect but preservation is only general, the entire matter is moot. To argue for an inspired Bible which no longer exists is vain jangling. The bottom line in this matter is that the same Bible that claims to be perfectly inspired also claims to be perfectly preserved. Our faith in this is not based on common sense (though it is sensible to believe that if God gave a perfect Bible He would preserve that very Bible…

    

    Last reply by Jerry, December 3, 2003
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    10 Scholars = 12 Opinions

    December 3, 2003 by PreachIt

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    Is King James onlyism Scriptural? We who believe God has preserved His inspired words only in the KJB are accused of being unscriptural. Isaiah 59:21 "This is my covenant with them; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever." Jesus said in Matthew 24:35: "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away." God has promised to preserve His words, here on earth, in a form that will be known and spoken among His seed, till the end of this world. How has He done t…

    

    Last reply by Anon, December 3, 2003
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    THE SUPERIORITY OF THE KING JAMES VERSION

    November 30, 2003 by PreachIt

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    THE FOUR-FOLD SUPERIORITY OF THE KING JAMES VERSION http://www.revelationwebsite.co.uk/index1/kjv/4fold.htm By Dr. D.A. Waite © 1992 Bible for Today Dr. Donald Waite is a Baptist scholar who has written in the defense of the Received Text for many years. He is President of the Dean Burgon Society and Director of Bible for Today ministries. He has earned a B.A. in classical Greek and Latin; a Th.M. with high honors in New Testament Greek Literature and Exegesis; an M.A. and Ph.D. in Speech; a Th.D. with honors in Bible Exposition; and he holds both New Jersey and Pennsylvania teacher certificates in Greek and Language Arts. He taught Greek, Hebrew, Bible, Speech,…

    

    Last reply by alongtheroad, December 2, 2003
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    Slain or Mained in the Spirit What do You think?

    November 30, 2003 by John the Baptist

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    When you see Bennie Hinn wave his hand and two rolls in front fall over what do you think? Personally I do not see it in Scripture. My daughter gave me a book a few years ago after coming back form our Baptist convention center in Shocco Springs Alabama. It is titled, [u]Over come By The Spirit by Francis MacNutt). He tries to prove being slain in the Spirit by Scripture. "we read for instance, what happened to King Saul when he was chasing after David to kill him. "The Spirit of God came even upon Him, and he walked along prophesying. . .He stipped off his robes and also prophesied in Samuel's presence. He lay that way all that day and night" 1 Samuel 19:2…

    

    Last reply by lettheredeemedsayso, December 2, 2003
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    Hermeneutics

    December 1, 2003 by lumi

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    A brother in Christ is looking to learn more about Hermeneutics. Could you recommend any books or sites that I can download info. for him?

    

    Last reply by lettheredeemedsayso, December 2, 2003
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    Versions and Perversions, Radio Bible Class, 1960....

    November 30, 2003 by PreachIt

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    The following is from the booklet Bible Versions and Perversions, published by the Radio Bible Class, 1960. The author was the late M.R. DeHaan. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bible Versions and Perversions "Since the Bible is a holy book, and in a class all by itself, this separated character should be maintained, and therefore any attempt to secularize it and lower it to the level of other literature by loose and irresponsible versions and translations is using the Word `deceitfully.' It is profaning the Bible. For this very reason, I believe that the Holy Spirit guided the translators of the Authorized Version …

    

    Last reply by Jerry, November 30, 2003
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    Spurgeon & the "Blunder Bible"

    November 29, 2003 by PreachIt

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    A Warning From Spurgeon (CH Spurgeon called the 'revised version' of 1881 the "Blunder Bible") -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.revelationwebsite.co.uk/index1/kjv/spur.htm Charles Haddon Spurgeon of England, writing in his publication, The Sword and the Trowel, September 1888, warned against those who would alter and pervert the Word of God. Every motive that could move men to alter the Word of God has been fully delineated in various portions of the Bible. It shows that God was aware from the first of the reception that would be given to His truth; and it is as instructing to the humble believer as…

    

    Last reply by Jerry, November 30, 2003
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    God is supremely jealous for His Word

    November 30, 2003 by PreachIt

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    SIMPLE COMPARISONS by Pastor Jonathan R. Crosby http://www.revelationwebsite.co.uk/inde ... simple.htm ---------------------------------------------------- Our God is supremely jealous for His Word, which He has magnified above His name (Ps. 138:2), and will confound man's efforts to corrupt it. ---------------------------------------------------- "Who Killed Goliath in Your Bible?" The answer may surprise you. The verse to be tried is II Sam. 21:19. In our brief review the following abbreviations are used: RV for the Revised Version (1881), ASV for the American Standard Version (1901), NWT for the New World Translation (1961), NASV for the New American Standard…

    

    Last reply by PreachIt, November 30, 2003
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    List...

    November 30, 2003 by PreachIt

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    ALL the Errors in the King James Version :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? :? There Are Not Any Errors In The King James Version :lol:

    

    Last reply by grace2u, November 30, 2003
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    THE NIV CHALLENGE

    November 30, 2003 by PreachIt

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    THE NIV CHALLENGE http://www.revelationwebsite.co.uk/index1/kjv/nivc.htm Try Answering These From Your NIV By Rex L. Cobb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- INSTRUCTIONS: Using the New International Version Bible, answer the following questions. Do not rely on your memory. As the Bible is the final authority, you must take the answer from the Bible verse (not from footnotes but from the text). Fill in the missing words in Matthew 5:44. "Love your enemies,__________ them that curse you, ______________ to them that hate you, and pray for them that __________ and persecute you." According to Matthew …

    

    Last reply by BrianT, November 30, 2003