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Don't know for certain. We have Bible Study right after I get home from work, so I may whip up a sandwich or something simple. My wife will have had leftover Panda Express from last night, eating before I get home. Or I may run to the local quicky mart, the Mark, and grab a piece of pizza or a burrito. My wife can't cook yet, so its just grab as we can when we have to be somewhere.

Yes, standard Ruckman error. I mean, his tenacity on the reliability of the KJV is commendable, but his reasons were faulty. I believe the Bible teaches the position of preservation, not a second inspiration. Now, I DO believe the translators were guided in the wording they used, because they all believed they were dealing with the very Word of God, and had the right heart as to what they were doing. They wanted an accurate, as well as beautiful, translation, word for word, yet poetic and magnificent. But they didn't need inspiration, merely guidance and wisdom of God in their work.

I doubt any of our theology on this subject are absolutely correct-the Bible says actually quite a bit, but things like timing, and time periods between events, are very vague. I hold to the post-trib/pre-wrath rapture position, and have quite a few reasons for it, but I'm not dogmatic about it, either, because the Bile doesn't really lay out the timing clearly, so I have never considered it a 'fundamental', timing-wise, nor anything to separate over, though I know some who do separate over the timing of the rapture. By the way, I don't hold to it due to any Anderson teachings, as I have

Jim, I appreciate your thoughts. I love this subject and very fond of hearing peoples views even if they differ from my own. Brother Jim, does your belief not have the idea that Christ would lead us into heaven? And thus he entering back into this spiritual realm?

Welcome brother Tony! Curious, I have recently been informed about these cowboy churches. Can you lay a little more into what they are? also it is very interesting you left the ifb for the sbc as that seems to be different from the current norm. May you also extrapolate upon this transition for you and your family?

Thanks for the reply BroMatt. I do know that yours is the preferred way to look at it for many. I still hold with what I said, even though I did not list every reason for holding to it. One main reason that I did not list was the fact that at His coming for us (The Rapture), He is coming from a spiritual realm to an earthly one, which for me, makes the Rapture the first part of what I call a two part second coming. In any event, I am all for it regardless of what I, or anyone else chooses to call it.

Welcome Bro Tony. We are glad you decided to join us and we look forward to future fellowship with you.

I'll be praying.

I was very young when my mother and father divorced and was adopted by my mother's second husband. I finally found my biological father way back in the 1980s, and we have stayed in touch. I have witnessed to him and my stepmother several times, but they seem to be dead set against God for many years. Now that my father is dying of emphysema, he is asking questions at times about God, Salvation and forgiveness. I continue to witness to him. He is in stage 4 of the emphysema, and he doesn't have many months or years left. Please pray that he will accept the Lord, and that my stepmother will foll

On another forum in another place, there was a man who stated that the KJV was "doubly inspired." He was a Ruckmanite and was very adamant about those words in italics. They were supposed to be the inspired Word of God. There was no concession in his mind that God put them there. To me, that was sad. It was hard for me for many years to believe that ANYONE would hold the view of "double inspiration." It's not Scriptural. And, we have to remember that there was another ENGLISH translation available before the KJV. Another sad thing was that this person couldn't agree on which version of the KJV