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A forum to discuss Salvation, Eternal Security and other topics that pertain to Salvation.
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Ga 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. Ga 5:2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. Ga 5:3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. Ga 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. A Christian can't lose their salvation, if they are actualy saved, but they can fail to stand, and fall from grace and as such Christ will profit nothing, and the Christian can be in a state of worse sinning than they were …
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"Oops, I missed a step" Salvation. Romans 8:26-29 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God. And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. I was saved at the…
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I was wondering what you think of what I like to call "Instant" repennters, people who plan on sinning and then pray for forgiveness of that sin. They make a habit of sinning and repenting, with no intention of giving up the sinful behaviour they repented for.
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This was taken from an article by a Calvinist, teaching 'perseverence of the saints'. It is, I believe, from the RSV(Revised Standard Version). Notice the wording in the last sentence of each and tell me if you notice a subtle but drastic difference in meaning between this and the KJB. Here is what the King James says .... 2 Peter 1:10-11 10Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall: 11For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. I know this could be in the wrong forum, but it has to do wit…
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Repentance CANNOT save I'm writing on the topic of repentance in regards to salvation because this is a subject that is very misinterpreted today, (even amongst Independent, Fundamental Baptists) and there’s a LOT of false teaching out there under the guise of repentance that is actually teaching a works-based salvation. The mistake that most people make is that, whenever they see the word "repent" in the Bible, they add these words after it: “of your sins”. So whenever they see the word "repent" they just automatically add "of sin"... repent of your sin. In fact, they often think that just the word "repent" means to turn from sin, but the Bible doe…
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1 Peter 3: 19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; 20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. It specifies only the "disobedient" spirits which were BEFORE the flood. I was going to mention this in another thread but it was closed.
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How does one explain color to a blind man? Or how can we describe sound to him that is deaf? Could a dead man understand what it is to live again? So it is with trying to explain eternal things to a carnal man; Or trying perhaps, to enlighten a mna who lives and walks in darkness; These things are impossible to explain unless there is a divine intervention. One of the "rules" of soul winning that I have been taught, was to expect someone to get saved. Can I expect a blind man to see? Or a corpse to rise again aside from divine intervention? No, we must go in the power of the Holy Spirit, and let His purpose be accomplished. Of course we don't lead everyone we…
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I'm posting part of response from another "Baptist" forum that was left unanswered about 2 Peter 3:9 and the Calvinist mangling of it. Feel free to add to it. Please pardon the Greek, I was dealing with Biblophobes who tried using it against me. Now this verse only says what you say it doesn't say if you read a presuppostional stance into the text. But what does 2 Peter 3:9 actually say? "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." Now does this verse only mean that God is not willing that ONLY THE ELECT should not perish? That…
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I recently was talking to a catholic about James. He said James meant exactly what he said and then wrote down a list as fallows: (Matthew 25:31-46) (Matthew 7:21) (John 5:28-29) (Romans 2:6) (2 Corinthians 5:10) (1Peter 1:17) (Revelation 20:12) (Revelation 22:12) After looking at these verses I am quite confused. They would all seem to imply that we are judged on what we do and not just our faith. Could some one please explain these to me? I
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1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. Romans 8:17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. Is it possible for a saved person to be an idolater at the same time? If so, how do we reconcile these two verses? One says the saved are heirs with Christ. The other says idolaters cann…
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II Corinthians 5:17 says Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. Within the past couple months at the church I am a member of has seen a few folks get saved and folks join the church. I praise the Lord for that. But something seems to be off. According to the verse above when we are in Christ old things are passed away and all things are become new. My old life is dead and buried and I'm given a new life in Christ. Why is there then for lack of a better word so many "worthless" Christians? "Christians" that would rather live like the world then live the more abundant life that they have b…
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A scenario my husband recently heard about. This was from a conservative.: Person: I know I am not saved because I do not feel sorry for the ?sins? I commit. How sorry would I need to feel? Preacher: ?Being sorry has absolutely nothing to do with salvation. It is an instantaneous event. When you believe/trust it is complete. Later on sanctification occurs where you become more Christ like and change your ways but being saved doesn?t remove the sin desires from us?.
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How can you tell if a Christian is Saved (born again)? This easily happens, when a person is not shown the Bible. If the person did not confess, realize that he or she is a sinner, that needs a savior. They might be still lost. Just praying and letting the Holy Spirit do everything might not be enough. Opening the Bible and sharing it, brings assurance to the new believer.
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Once Saved, Always Saved! If you do not believe that Jesus has saved your soul from Hell forever; can you really claim to be "saved" at all? Although there are many different denominations that claim to be "Christian"; there are basically only two kinds of belief about salvation among them. The more popular belief teaches that salvation is something that can be gained and lost many times in this life. It claims that a person is saved by grace initially, but that there is always the possibility of him doing something wrong at a later time that would cause him to lose his salvation. If he happens to die in a lost condition, he goes to Hell, even though h…
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BJ was introduced to our fellowship group a few weeks ago as a new convert. He had been seeking peace in his religion for some time, but met a Nigerian who told him, "Not religion, but faith in Jesus" & prayed with & for him. Within 3 days he knew the peace only to be found in Jesus. I've rarely met one so eager for fellowship & so enthusiastic about Bible teaching. He will return to the Punjab on Feb. 28th. His uncle is a Christian & he has links to Christians we know in India but his family have told him they don't want him now he is a Christian. Our study last Friday was on baptism (by John & of Jesus) & its implications as seen in Romans …
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I was baptised into the Church of Christ when I was about (guessing) 7 or 8 years old. Later in life after attending many different churches, I was saved under the ministry of an IFB and followed the Lord with believer's baptism. Some years ago I had a relative and member of the Church of Christ pass away. After the services there was a meal at the church. During discussion among family and old friends, membership at this church was discussed. A deacon of the church mentioned that I was still carried on the membership roll. I said I had since been saved and become a Baptist. Another person said, "But you were baptized here!" No discussion of salvation or receiving Chris…
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Salvation involves the new birth according to John 3:3 according to the Lord Jesus Christ. The new birth changes one's life, one' s desires, and one's state and standing with God.
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"To many of us the form of that second sentence comes as a surprise. Jesus did not say that he who believes and is saved shall be baptized. No, he put it the other way round. He who believes and is baptized, he said, shall be saved. It is only at our peril that we change something that the Lord has said into something that he did not say. Everything he says matters, and he means every word of it. But if this is so, then it must be a fact that only by having faith in him and being baptized are we saved. Some will be puzzled at this. What do you mean? they will protest. But do not puzzle; and do not blame me! I did not say that; my Lord said it. He it was who laid down…
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ABOUT BIRTH FROM ABOVE What do I see in the Bible about this? There is a biblical and very brief formula: " Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God." Simple and universal! Why such a formula is more correct than the generally accepted tradition: "Repented = born again"? Because it corresponds 100% to what Christ taught about the birth of Above in John 3: 1-21. We have the original source of the Birth from Above Doctrine - The Christ Himself! I propose for all in the Birth from Above Doctrine let’s stop to be, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to our own way in a study of a Birth from Above Doctrine - then we will …
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What are the biblical definition(s) of a saint to accept a person as a brother or sister in Christ?
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(arminianism is also incorrect) Before the foundation of the world God knew that mankind would need redemption from their wickedness and decided that He would choose all who who are in Christ by faith to be holy and without blame, adopted as sons and forgiven of sins. See Ephesians 1:4-7 Note: He did not choose which individuals would be in Christ.
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Matthew 5 21 Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: 22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. when it says that someone who says "thou fool" shall be in danger of hell fire, does that mean that believers are in danger of going to hell if they talk like that?
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Nope, she was a lost child of the Catholic Church, trusting in her works to get her to Heaven. She rejected much Scriptural truth, and made people happy/comfortable dying in their own false religions. AND no lost person can ever do "GOOD WORKS" in God's eyes. All her righteousnesses are as filthy rags (see Isaiah 64:6) compared to the pure, sinless blood of Jesus which was shed on the cross to redeem us from our sins.
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Yes, and we see that exact result in those listening to Stephen's message, to some people during the time of Jesus' ministry - the fact that some people can clearly reject the Lord also means some can receive Him. If we are too dead to respond positively (ie. of you still equate physical death with spiritual death), then we are too dead to reject Him too.
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I am sorry I forgot to post an update. He came home from the hospital last night, and is doing much better. I almost wrote "He went home last night" - but thought that might not be the best way to word it!
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Women are not to lead a church spiritually. Quoting an OT passage about a woman leading/directing them physically into battle during a time of apostasy is not the same thing as a woman leading a NT church spiritually - especially when the NT has clear guidelines on the leadership of the church. A woman can play music - but I think the passages about her not leading the church would also apply if she was leading/directing the church in the worship of the Lord. (Also, minor point Robert, but the NT teaches that elders are the same as pastors. Elders (indicating maturity), bishops (which means overseers), and pastors (which are shepherds, leading and guiding the flock) are all different terms emphasizing different aspects of the same role of leadership in the churches.)
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