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    • Gee wilikers folks, seems to me that President Trump is UNIFYING the Republican party. I will give you only a partial quote on the Rush Limbaugh article on, "The Trump Magic is Alive and Well in GOP Primaries." But, after you read my quote on how President Trump is UNIFYING the Republican party you need to read the rest of the article on how President Trump is, as the Republican used to be, patriotic, America first, protect the work that the founding Fathers established, and preserve the greatness of American history. Rush Limbaugh stated, "So there were some primary runoffs last night. And both of Trump’s endorsed candidates won, one of them in a major, major, major landslide. Donald Trump has united the Republican Party something like now, what is it, 96% of the Republican Party supports Trump. You find it everywhere except in the United States Senate. Pro-America, pro-law and order, pro-peace and prosperity. The message is working. Trump’s endorsements are worth their weight in gold in Republican primaries. Fake news wants you to believe Trump is losing his base. Fake news wants you to believe Trump’s losing everything. He’s lost the magic. He has lost the mystique. He has lost everything that propelled him to victory in 2016. Not only that, he’s out of touch. His ideas are out of step. He simply lost everything that he had. And of course the opposite is true." https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2020/07/15/the-trump-magic-is-alive-and-well/ Methinks that this thread, "Trump is single handily destroying the republican Party" is fake news, a divisive thread, and designed by a liberal democrat, or never-trumper, who is trying to divide the Republican Party.
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    • Bill, there is no Scripture that says there was a church before Pentecost. But rather it is a teaching derived from the events of Scripture. In the following Scriptures I list you will see the unfolding of the beginnings of the first church that Jesus built. ************************************************ 1 Corinthians 12:28 (KJV) And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. So Apostles were set in the church first. Now we have to ask when this happened to show that there was a church before Penetecost. Luke 6:13 (KJV) And when it was day, he called unto him his disciples: and of them he chose twelve, whom also he named apostles; With Jesus' choice of Apostles He began the first church, as he had promised. Matthew 16:18 (KJV) And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Pentecost was the empowering of the already existing church. We see His instructions to His disciples to wait for this empowering here: Luke 24:49 (KJV) And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.
    • I agree the first Lord's Supper was before Pentecost. Catholics believe that the meeting in the Upper Room was the first meeting of a Christian Church. I know of no other place where nor have I ever heard anyone call that a church meeting. Can you give me scripture where a Christian church is said to exist before Pentecost? I'd appreciate it.  Groups met after Christ's ascension. no question about that.Where they a Christian church? I do not remember any scripture or other writing from that time calling that meeting the church. It may be that in the Apocrypha may speak to this, but I am not aware of it doing so. As I said above, Catholics teach that the meeting in the upper room was the first meeting of a Christian church.  The first place in the New Testament that I know of where the word [translated of course] church or ekklesia is used is Matt. 16:18. Christ used the term. In contest he used future tense, not present. In Antioch, Acts 11:20-21, the term Christian is used as Christian Church. My understanding is followers were first called Christian there. Paul visited Antioch a number of times. There was some type of unfortunate incident at Antioch, a disagreement between Paul and Peter. When Paul left after this incident he never returned to that city and church. It is in his letter to the Galatians,  where he speaks of that incident and then writes his great passage on works and faith. 
    • Nonsense; the first church was already in existence before Pentecost. The Lord's Supper is a church ordinance and was partaken of before Pentecost. Luke 22:19 (KJV) And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.
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