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Faith Through The Ages


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Faith Through The Ages - Hebrews 11:13

1. Compelling Faith (Forward Looking)
2. Confirmed Faith (Established)
3. Concurrent Faith (Bi-directional)
4. Consummate Faith (Fulfilled)

1. Compelling Faith . Forward Looking .
Hebrews 11:13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.

2. Confirmed Faith . Established Faith .
Hebrews 8:6 But now hath he OBtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

John 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

3. Concurrent Faith . Bi-directional Faith .
John 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

We look back into the scriptures.


John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. (Note: Isaiah 52:13 through 53:12)

We look ahead to Christ’s return.


Titus 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

4. Consummate Faith . Faith Fulfilled .
Matthew 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Do you have the faith required by God?
Luke 18:7 And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them?
Luke 18:8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

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