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Conflict Within The Company


Standing Firm In Christ

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Suppose you are a young adult male who works for a company that has a CEO and a superintendent over you.
One day, the CEO tells you that you are no longer to come to work on Tuesdays; that only females are allowed to work that day.
Later that day, the superintendent calls you into his office and tells you you are expected to work for four hours every Tuesday.

Who do you OBey? Would you not go to the CEO to get the confusion straightened out?

Well, look at God as the CEO and the pastor as the Superintendent. God's Word says that His tithe is to go to Jerusalem. He gives no other location that it must go. He also says it is to be agricultural in nature. He gives no other options.

The pastor says, "Tithe to the Church where you are fed," and "Tithe money."

Uh-oh... conflict of interest. LOL

So what do we do? We go to God for the answer. We ought to OBey God rather than men. So if we are going to tithe. it's best to do it in the manner that God prescribed, is it not? Otherwise, it is not OBedience to God, it is OBedience to man who is teaching something contradictory to what God says.

Thankfully, God does not hold us to the Law of the tithe. In Romans 7 we are told that if the saved go to the house of the Law, it is an act of adultery. Let us strive to be faithful to Christ and not be guilty of going to the house of the Law while married to the One who was raised from the dead. RWR

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    • I don't believe anyone here has said to conduct church discipline during a communion service, and you're correct, that wouldn't be the place to conduct such an action. Usually people are notified by the pastor or the deacons concerning any action towards reconciling the offending Christian to the body (local church). There is first a call by one, then two or more, then usually brought before the church (local assembly) for a vote of notification of separation from the church because of sin. If t
    • Sorry, the New Testament usage of the word church is to local assemblies and to the one assembly we will be in Heaven - it is not regarding some universal church/assembly down here. When you look at it on a local church level, it is very easy to have church unity. There can never be universal church unity - and in fact, that would go against MANY commands in the New Testament, as there are many churches that teach false doctrine, that allow sin, that teach and preach and practice things against
    • At the first communion, Jesus had Judas Iscariot with Him.  Did Jesus not know how to discipline?  It is not the pastor's duty to discipline at the communion service.  If the pastor has issues with a "member", I hope the disciplining would be before communion.  I would think there would be a better time and place.  The pastor is not held accountable, if in ignorance, he lets someone take communion who claims to be a saved/baptized follower of Christ.  It is his duty to reiterate what Paul wrote
    • Also, in Heaven, we will be perfect, sinless and have perfect knowledge. Down here, we do not.
    • It's not a "club mentality." Many hold to the closed communion ideology, others to close, and many to open. The church is an individual cell/called out assembly, and I can fully understand those of the "closed"  communion, as each individual, called out assembly is responsible for their members and the actions of them. Closed shows that the local church has the right ideology that they should be able to discipline their own members, and help to keep their local members accountable in the matters
    • So much "club" mentality....Maybe when we get to heaven Jesus can keep us separated to our "local church" congregations.  I am sure that would make some people happy!  
    • Passover was to be eaten by the whole nation at the same time but with one lamb per household. Each household was to have its own lamb with the exception of very small homes where they could join with their neighbour. They were to eat it in hast and without leaven, with the blood applied to the door post for that household. (Exodus 12) The lord's supper is modeled after that with the exception that Christ is the lamb of our supper. 1 Corinthians 5:7-8 Purge out therefore the old leaven
    • Thanks for your attempt Bro. Jerry. In an attempt to resolve this, as well as defend my position and lesson; I would suggest that you once again go over what I wrote in that lesson in regard to its restrictions. I would point you specifically to the restriction indicated by who sat at the first Lord's Supper. It was only the twelve. There were many other disciples, possibly thousands. But only those that comprised the first church (The Apostles) ate. To me, this is instruction by example, a
    • Jim, just doing quick word searches (and not actually skimming the passages), I think Acts 20 may be the only actual reference to the Lord's Supper during Paul's ministry as recorded in the book of Acts. I am not sure if this was a church started by Paul or a gathering of people that he knew from other local churches he started, ie. whether he knew them from Troas or from other places.
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